This project is a rather bold attempt to recreate and extend the siege New York first Allied mission of Red Alert 2 in a total conversion scenario for Civilization II MGE. The goal is change Civ2's well known world battle map style into a beautiful sprawling urban metropolis of endless tall buildings and streets for your tanks and bombers to fight over, all within the limitations of the old Civ2 MGE engine of course! It's 20 years too late but I'm doing it anyway haha!
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- Red Alert 2 Factions
- Red Alert 2 Units
- Red Alert 2 Base Cities
- Red Alert 2 Themed Technologies
- Red Alert 2 Music & Sounds
- Red Alert 2 City buildings
Blake - an okayish Civ2 mod maker who's building this project from the ground up using skills learned from his other projects. Feel free to check out his other WIP projects such as his ToT Graphics for Civ2MGE mod, his Heroes of Might & Magic 2 Civ2 scenario, his Command & Conquer Civ2 scenario, his Red Alert 2 Siege of NY Civ2 scenario, his old Star Wars Civ2 scenario, his new Master of Magic Enhanced Civ2ToT scenario, and his Civ1 Soundtrack Overhaul mod. He is also the creator of the popular Star Trek GZDoom and Quest For Glory IV 3D Hexen GZDoom mods.
Metropolis - an extremely talented Civ2 mod maker who's helping Blake with a few things here and there in this scenario! Feel free to check out his Star Trek Civ2ToT and Star Control Civ2 scenarios too.
Atomic_Noodles and the RA2 Colony Wars team for giving permission to use their special re-imagined voxel RA2 style units such as the Allied B2 Spirit Bomber and Soviet Spy Plane. If you want play a sequel RA1 story in the RA2YR engine check out their mod!
Fryone and the RA2YR Psychic Legacy team for giving permission to use their special re-imagined voxel RA2 style units such as the Soviet Mig Bomber. If you want play a sequel RA2YR story in the RA2YR engine check out their mod!
Speeder and the RA2YR Mental Omega team for giving permission to use their special re-imagined voxel RA2 style units such as the Allied Harrier Jet . If you want to relive an alternative take on the RA2 story via the RA2YR engine check out their amazing mod!
In this first dev diary we look at experimenting with Civ2's terrain limits & using some sneaky tricks to begin creating a Red Alert 2 style city map with Liberty island, bridges and buildings for the Civilization 2 - Red Alert 2 Siege of New York Scenario!
While working with Metropolis on the Civilization 2 - Heroes of Might and Magic 2 Mod I started thinking about how cool it would be to play a C&C2 style dark and moody scenario along with a city siege Red Alert 2 style Civ2 scenario with towering capturable buildings as I'm a huge Command & Conquer and Red Alert fan (so much that I run a retro C&C tribute website). The Red Alert 2 city idea seemed too hard at the time so I figured I'd continue working on the HoMM2 scenario and start work on a fun Command & Conquer 2 Africa Campaign Scenario as training first. Well now after months working on those projects I feel I have the confidence and experience to try and attempt this rather crazy idea of mine to change Civ2's well known world battle map style into a beautiful sprawling urban metropolis of endless tall buildings and streets for your tanks and bombers to fight over, all somehow within the limitations of the old Civ2 MGE engine of course! It's 20 years too late but I'm doing it anyway haha!
Disclaimer: Hopefully the final product will be waaaaay better than all these test shots but I gotta start somewhere haha.
So what is Red Alert 2 Siege of New York? Probably something too ambitious for my own good but I'm going to give it a bloody good try anyway. The aim is to try and make a similar map to the first Allied mission of Red Alert 2 in the Civ2 engine and have both sides battling across the map trying to breakthrough garrisoned sky scrapers with tanks, ships and bombers etc (using imported RA2 unit graphics similar to what I did with the C&C scenario).
Visually there's no way in hell I can make it look anywhere near as good as the original but the aim to is try and get is as close as I can using lots of different Civ2 editing tricks.
Eg here's a shot of the original game in all it's beauty:
One cool Civ2 trick is that using 3x3 super cell areas made out of River, Forrest, Hills & Mountain formations I can create 4 big sky scrapers, and I'll also have leftover cells for 2 square diagonal buildings and of course I'll have lots of cells free for smaller 1 cell buildings.
Eg here's a shot of my first test super building, the surrounding cells inside the 3x3 will be MUCH more packed with buildings in the final version. You can also see I've made some test 1 cell burning buildings. I've also mapped out the shoreline border lines to later insert the cool seaside cement brick wall docks of the original map.
Now the real fun trick with these buildings is to downsize and convert not just the damaged version but also the healthy garrisoned version too! This will then allow me to break up certain areas of the super buildings into Civ2 unit images. These units will act as the garrisons and once they are killed it will reveal the damaged burning building underneath. This creates a similar fun effect to the original Red alert game where clearing out a building garrisons would leave a damaged burning building behind. Later Ill show how I use a similar trick (units over damaged terrain) to simulate the soviets destroying the statue of liberty!
Example of me converting healthy/damaged/garrisoned versions of a small building:
And a garrisoned/damaged super building for another 3x3 I'm working on right now:
Another tough thing I've managed to successfully implement is something that many Civ2 modders have experienced the 'joys' of and that's Land Bridges! I thought to myself.. how the hell do I create a bridge just like Red Alert 2's bridges that land units can cross but does NOT have the Civ2 shoreline textures. Then I remembered there is 1 texture in the game that overrides shoreline textures, river mouths! Metro used the 4 different river mouth textures to implement extra decoration in our HoMM2 scenario and I realised I could do the same and put bridge side textures on them. Of course to get river mouths I need a river going across the bridge which created another problem, as rivers override all land terrain types. However then I remembered roads and railroads override rivers so I just needed to replace Civ2's roads with red alert 2's big fat highways and the sneaky subterfuge was complete haha.
On the left is the finished land bridge that tanks can cross. On the right the deception is revealed showing default Civ2 graphics:
Metro also gave me a great idea of using terrain improvement graphics for base buildings around the cities. Irrigation could be Soviet Tesla reactors, Farmland could be Allied Power Plants, mines could be Ore Processing plants. Similar to my C&C Tiberian scenario above I plan to use Construction site graphics for city graphics so it will look very cool and Red alert 2 looking to have little power plants and ore plants around the construction sites just like in a real C&C base haha.
Also this gives me an extra idea to try later.. if you look at the original Red alert 2 image at the start of this post you can see a cool blue hew light affect over the entire allied base, on other maps there's a red light over Soviet bases. That's not really something I can replicate in Civ2 (without sacrificing more terrain cells that I'd rather use on city buildings) however if I put these power plants on concrete slabs (similar to my existing white concrete slab graphics) and give these concrete slabs beneath the buildings either a slightly blue or red tinge/glow this would then create a bit of a red or blue glow illusion around the city bases! Simulating coloured lighting in a Civ2 level would be another big wow factor feature I can't resist trying haha. I'll have to do some experiments in a future dev diary!
In the meantime I've also made an early Liberty island with a multi cell destructible Statue of Liberty. In the finished scenario I'll stick in an event that triggers if the soviets destroy it where it plays a WAV file of Premier Romanov giving his morale crushing "See your liberty, how she lies broken before you..." speech haha.
On the left is the intact Statue of Liberty (built from 2 extra tall units cells). On the right is the destroyed burning Statue of Liberty terrain decoration (hidden underneath units).
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