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Peace be with you.
After a discussion between MattmanDude, CrazyOldTeenager, and myself, a short (but to the point) series of rules will now be coming into effect for this...
Basileus Basileon Basileuon Basileuonton. Translated as "king of kings, ruling over rulers"
Just a message from an old wanderer passing through.
Lot of information for new recruits packed into a mere article. Also has three medal of honor soundtracks to listen too while reading if you want. Enjoy.
Your new order of business now that you are a member of the Grand Army of the Lord Jesus Christ.
I thought it would be interesting to ask you guys the following question:
Will the rapture occur before the tribulation, or after the tribulation?
I am leaning towards the latter and this following documentary really convinced me.
What do you guys think?
Never underestimate the power of justice. :3
There's a blurred line between swift justice and sweet revenge. And when you take matters into your own hands, you become vulnerable to your basic instincts - Youtube.com
"The monks used to say that revenge is like a two-headed rat viper. While you watch your enemy go down, you're being poisoned yourself." Youtube.com
"The true mind can weather all the lies and illusions without being lost. The true heart can touch the poison of hatred without being harmed. Since beginning-less time, darkness thrives in the void, but always yields to purifying light"
Sorry to drag this all up again but if there was any ever doubt, we now know for certain who was behind all that homosexual imagery spam back months ago in this group and the The Debating Society group and who was also in control of the CNCRoadKill alt accounts etc:
Moddb.com (This is from way back last year in some fox group they trolled)
"As you may have noticed, CureOptimism and Frenzied_Metalhead had been desecrating and defacing the fox lovers group with homosexual imagery. I had put an end to their posting of vile and grotesque homosexual imagery and restored order and serenity to the Fox lovers group."
Clearly it was one their trolling methods. I'm surprised they lasted as long as they did with this type of trolling on moddb.
Sorry, I won't ever bring this up again but when I found that post I just thought it needed to be finally out in the open as I know some here had their doubts about who was behind it all.
Blast. I keep arriving right when the good discussions have already finished.
So, in essence, a hellish snake persuaded Eve to pick up an extraordinary apple and that's how the whole hell broke loose? Our species became considerably weaker and so on. All this misery and anguish because of an apple?
I have a small orchard... there's an apple tree... and I actually consume fruits, especially apples. What can I say? They're healthy.
Can you clarify something? Why did God place a tempting fruit tree in a garden in the first place? I need a psychological analysis of this... divine event.
Another matter, which is quite peculiar. What happened to Lot's daughters and why? You could elaborate on this chapter, cos' you know, I'm an unworthy peach and a spiritual dummy, so I came here to be enlightened. Please, help me. :)
Willfully cooperating with the enemy? Yes.
(Which later resulted in the Serpents being cursed)
As I explained in our earlier chat. What God wanted was a people who could choose for themselves, not robots, hence why He gave Adam and Eve the choice in the garden of Eden (regarding the tree of life and the other with the knowledge of good and evil). Sometimes God will put situations in our way to test our faith and trust.
The reason Adam and Eve sinned was simple, they didn't believe God, they could have just ignored the Serpent and maintained faith, but they didn't. They were not yet tainted by sin. But what they were tainted by? Unbelief, which can be just as bad.
What happened to Lot and his daughters? Last we see of them after God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, his daughters got him drunk and committed incest. Which they undoubtedly thought was normal because of the corruption they'd been exposed to in that wicked city that God destroyed. Bible stops talking about them after that. Because the result of that was another barbarian tribe Israel and Joshua ended up fighting *and destroying* when they at last reached the promised land.
Common sense and conventional morality come into play in delicate situations like this one. They were warned not to mess with this extraordinary tree, but their curiosity got the better of them and they opened Pandora's box.
It's like telling modern kids not to perform certain actions- if you give them an explicit order not to use something, they're more likely to disobey your directive, cos' what cannot be done or attained, all of a sudden, becomes that much more tempting. A psychological test, to say the least.
God is a master-mind. Well, in essence, hands-on experience is way more valuable than theory, so God decided to give our species a lesson that would never be forgotten. It's all about morality... and we learn via free will(God set us free).
This genesis tree contains/holds the knowledge of good and evil? So, you could see your reflection there- a bad and good version of yourself? Something like this? Youtube.com It's such an interesting subject. Metaphysics is cool. My assumptions are mind-blowing, I know. :D
Of all the cases I have ever heard, people tend to think that Satan is the ruler of Hell. Well, I see it that Satan is but a fallen Angel that had fell out of God's favor and led mankind down the path of wicked deeds and wrongdoing of sin. He too suffers no less than those who too have been damned by God's will to the everlasting suffering of eternity in Hell.
He was the most powerful Angel God ever created.
Though he isn't ruler of hell. Hell is simply the place where all those who defy God end up. And what makes hell so bad isn't just the torments, it's the fact your eternally separated from God, forever.
I find it a bit peculiar that a benevolent deity would condemn certain life forms to perennial anguish now or an eternal damnation after death. Where is God's empathy and perception? God created everything, so now he's gonna evaluate(final judgement) his work and toss aside low-quality creations? He even invented the free will. If a God exists, I hold 'it' accountable for everything bad that ever happened.
God is, supposedly, an omnipotent being that created everything. Well... I'm clearly an unworthy trash that questions God's "perfect" plan. I shall burn in hell, cos' I dared to question his creation and will. If I said something like that a few centuries earlier, I would be burn at the stake. The God's soldiers sowing chaos and destruction, cos' they deemed others unworthy. Fine... have it your way, it's not that I have a choice, cos' my free will seems irrelevant in this matter! I have to believe, do I have a choice?!(a rhetorical question;)
I think your God is not what it seems to be. A far worse version of Satan, to say the least.
So, how's your holy mission? Have you helped some people financially? You know, verbal support is pretty much meaningless nowadays. You could also just help others in work. Mere words are just... words.
God, save me. You gave me this free will and I dare to question you now. I'm sorry, but it's your fault anyway.
So, howdy? Can you recommend me a neat game similar to Mario? You know, I'd like to play something nice before going to hell. ;)
Humanities fall was our own fault, not His. And the Rebellion was of Lucifer's doing.
Low quality creation? Lets consider this for a moment.
Mankind is a creation of the highest order, one capable of lordship over the rest of creation and other species that inhabit this world, perhaps even universal if you take into account our ever expanding technological and intellectual superiority, however meager it is.
Mankind is of higher order even than the Angels. And unlike the Angels, we actually have the ability to procreate. Our domination of the stars would be inevitable, but how it is *done* means everything. Also, our current problem, sin, is what prevents us from going any further. The moral, social, and societal problems we have need to stop before we can ever hope to expand.
God has a vision of humanity that goes far beyond our dreams and ideals. But in order for that vision to become a reality, humanity must be lead away from these moral, social, and societal problems. Humanity needs to be redeemed, and see an end to it's division for this to happen. Which is why Jesus Christ is so important, accepting Him allows God to work within one's very most core. And change them from within.
A society subjugated under God is the ultimate goal here. A society free of war, disease, ill will, and corruption. Hence why Faith, Hope, and Love are so *emphasized* in Christianity. Because those are the ideals ALL of humanity needs to embrace. Than we can grow, than we can learn, than we can truly be all we can be.
But in order for that to happen, all who dogmatically oppose this dream and it's prescribed order, need to be removed, permanently. For all their ways lead to the same outcome, destruction. So those that don't inevitably destroy themselves, will ultimately have to answer to God Himself. Jehovah will at last put an end to this cruel cycle of self-destruction we've all known for over 6000 years and beyond.
Peace, *Order*, and Justice for all.
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