SOPA and PIPA - our internet freedom news

I support SOPA.

Just joking.

Let us hope they don't come to be. Stupid SOPA and PIPA.

This is all of Dellfist's fault.

I hate governments. On another note, finally, Google does something good. Petitions don't normally change anything but I hope that this one does.

it's just a hunt for control, if they are able to block sites for "piracy"
they can also shut down sites with sensitive info's about america, just like it is nowadays in china.
They just want to seize control of the internet.
sopa and pipa is just being used as some kind off cover!

I doubt people won't stand up if the SOPA and PIPA passes. Take Anonymous, for example. They've already hacked their way into CIA's website, what do you think they'll do if SOPA passes?

Anonymous took down the homepage, that's like throwing a brick through a white house window. They will fix it in a bit and you probably didn't hit anything important (even though it looks important.)

Of course it won't. But still it is a way to show that we aren't unprovided of resources either.

I'll slap there face's for being this stupid

Quoting "Iliketosayfukalot " from youtube.

Today, the internet almost sums up to Yahoo, Google, Facebook, Youtube, ect. This act is against the piracy, and we know it, but the thing is, Hollywood is not even near deficit. The Twilight saga made millions and they dare say piracy will ruin them. Think about it. What if Google said : When someone googles "Twilight", we will make sure no result come up. What if Youtube said : Hey, I can't show any of your trailers ! SOPA/PIPA forbids me to.

This is the summary. If you would like to see the video, it's here : Youtube.com

I take no credits for this.

they need to stop piracy and **** but not this way :/ it wont fix anything....

You don't like governments huh. Ok let there be no government, let there be anarchy. Wait a minute there's anarchy half way across the world, in a place called Somalia, that place is hell.

Somalia removed its government and it is now a hellhole. The hell are you smoking?

Truth. That's what I smoke and it tastes so good. Somalia is a Hell-hole because they have no other system established. Somalia is in civil-war because everyone is divided and houses that are divided cannot stand. Governments aren't the only systems that can unite a country.

I may be wrong but that doesn't change the fact that all governments are greedy pigs who are never satisfied.

I don't want people running about without management but surely a far better system where people's votes actually matter could be established. It could be a council of sorts and if that council fails, everyone can chuck them out straight away. There should be no waiting for years just to chuck someone out as your governments have you do.

Our Prime Minister in the UK said that he was our servant but he's clearly proven otherwise.

That council would be a *drum roll* GOVERNMENT!

Government is the group or person that governs the common people, it can be made up of common people and still be a government.

Not really, your government has all these formal policies. If they fail, you have to wait years just to vote them out. My idea of a council is where the common folk can chuck the people out straight away if they fail. How many times have presidents and prime ministers promised things that they never deliver?

Perhaps governments can remain but they need to be reformed. Over here in the UK, loads of students protested against the government taking away the EMA and the government didn't even listen. A government is supposed to listen to its people, they aren't suppose to dictate and rule with a iron rod. Do you think the world has changed from when you had villages with Lords and Barons who imposed harsh taxes onto people? Not really.

@NMN

Politics brings death and suffering. All governments are corrupt and they need to be disbanded. Show me ONE good government and I'll show you a fairy. You're telling me governments are good? Well look at what YOUR government is doing to you.

And you're telling me governments are good? Ha! America's government has done terrible things just as China's government has done. Here in the UK, we found out MP's hording our money for their own greedy purposes and you're telling me governments are good? Well I'm sorry. They are not.

Better systems can be established but sadly, 90% of the population are sheep and just take it.

As these bills prove, governments want to CONTROL everyone. It's NOT okay to take away the freedom of a human. We were created with free-will and now these greedy governments want to take away our right to browse the internet and freely express ourselves? To Hell with them!

Hey Hey, the Idea of Government is nothing wrong, to Govern and lead yes... but it is not the errors in Government but rather Politicians we should be acting against. Change the Government not do away, if your kid is bad you don't just Chuck him out, (Councils are a form of Government) you educated them in what they did wrong and what should be done right.

Back to SOPA and PIPA, the idea of "Demolishing a highway system because it may be used by Bank Robbers as a getaway route" is ridiculously stupid, Anti Piracy must be fought in a different method, as the Art of War and Laws of Physics state, that every force has a reaction. Education may be key, morality may help guide.

umm its not that we don't like Governments, its like referring to the Original Right to Bear Arms, the intent was that it would allow the People of America to retain the ability to retake the Government if ever the Government was no longer for the people and had gotten too powerful. The People could then reform a government of their own liking as is Democracy

@TBS

A government could work if it functioned like that but from what I've heard, even if the people wanted them out, they can't do nothing about it. If governments fail their people or start going against what they promised, the people should have a right to chuck them out straight away and then get new people in.

But I've never heard of this actually happening because it's my understanding that everyone has to wait years until the next vote.

Personally, I couldn't care for politics and governments but I won't pretend that they are forces for good.

Disliking the government for SOPA/PIPA and wanting the government abolished are 2 different things.

You're basically saying a sticker and a billboard are the exact same thing, which they aren't.

If google wanted to make an impact they would have disabled youtube, gmail, and google search and redirected to an explanation page. They really didn't bring their sites down.

They did **** all because they care about money too much.

Well one thing is sure,if SOPA takes effect it will start the rise of digital terrorism to bring back the freedom that belongs to us.Every govrement involved in this will be on the hit by hackers from all over the world so it is better for them to drop it or they will be droped.

Dude are you retarded? due to SOPA and PIPA's description (if passed) will without a doubt, completely obliterate a large majority of websites including ones we know and love. That video link you sent doesnt help you either... The man in the video specifically explains that people are overreacting over the websites that have VOLUNTARILY shut down to PROTEST against PIPA and SOPA. Everybody (weather its people like us, or large websites like google or youtube) seems to know what consequences we are in for, except you...

theres nothing to change, but theres definitely something to stop, btw have you managed to read what there capable of?

not for me

And did you even consider the fact that the government might just as well take steps even further is SOPA/PIPA passes?

actually, we are fighting the part we can win, its just very difficult.
If everybody was "for" SOPA then it would have already taken affect,
but it hasnt, because people like us around the world wont let it!
SOPA has been delayed, and to me thats a battle half won.

So you're saying we should give up before the fight even starts, is that it?

You do know that people like us have no voice in the congress as much as you think, do you?

Talk to your congressmen (or whoever you can) , protest, do whatever. The government isn't going to listen to bunch of angry people on the internet. Do it properly, calmly and don't rely on Anonymous, shutting down government sites/systems like the "The Department of Defense" does not help anyone.

then it wouldn't be SOPA/PIPA anymore, it would be a new bill entirely

Exactly.

Well I don't think you have the right attitude about picking the battle you can win, but I agree that people are blowing this way out of proportion. This topic is everything I hate about the internet, with the exception of cats. Conspiracy theories that make no god damned sense and people trying to link everything to somalia/nazi germany/soviet russia... Everyone seems to think that because they heard somewhere that the government did something wrong sometime then it gives them the right to disband all governments. You know where we'd be without government? Up to our necks in horseshit. Everyone is not out to get you, as important as that makes you feel, and I know this will get buried in just a few hours, but to those that have made it this far, Kudos.

To all haters, think before you thumb this down or at least think before you type your misinformed response.

Good day.

We're already up to our necks in it. Just because western governments don't kill their citizens doesn't mean that they are good.

it will
im sure many of us will support such acts
but lets hope it doesnt come to that

here in spain is like this:
SOPA = soup
PIPA = pipe

maybe they need to eat some soup and smoke some pipe

"You want to stop internet's piracy ?
So you simply stop legal internet...
As it, only remain the thing that you have wanted to stop..."
Governments can sometime be so logic... (this sentence is purely ironic)

I don't live in USA, but be sure that I support you guys !
Occidentals Governments need to remember that democracy mean listen people and allow them to communicate freely !
Good luck...

I think they already smoked pipe when makeing this bill