This modification offers an alternative gameplay to Tiberian Wars involving many Tiberian Sun units which many CnC fans (like me) missing in vanilla CNC3 and add even new my made units which you can't find anywhere else. Story is quite the same like Tiberian Wars, but is all about what if GDI and Nod do not abandon technologies they have used in Tiberian Sun era and instead of that further developed them. But it's not only that, there are many visual, sound and balance changes which I want to see and hear in my mod, new sounds, new music, new effects (like blood and gore, new infantry deaths, new more realistic missile trails) and many more.

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Baziil
Baziil

And thats very cool!

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triadbanger07
triadbanger07

i guess this replace the pitbull?

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MrTimm
MrTimm

its for the forgotten

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Relifed
Relifed

and the forgotten has the pitbull...

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Relifed
Relifed

i ment looted pitbull

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Carnius Author
Carnius

That is very likely, but anyway i will keep pitbull available in worldbuilder for mappers.

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Нunter-Seeker
Нunter-Seeker

Yep. That's a god decition...

>=:)

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playmsbk
playmsbk

You could have the Looted Pitbull as a unit from some reinforcement power, just like the Predator. Better than the Humvee in many aspects, but only available from a support power.

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GriffinZ
GriffinZ

or you could always have the humwee as a random skin for the forgotten gun truck, just like the technicals in generals

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SlayerX3
SlayerX3

Fits the Forgotten pretty well, old rigged tech from the previous wars.

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Chinka
Chinka

These rockets as secondary weapon or ability?

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TheNodCommander
TheNodCommander

Ooh, nice! Me likes!

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Rimtech
Rimtech

lol renegade gdi hummer :-/

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Relifed
Relifed

no tiberian dawn gdi humvee :P

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Firestorm51493
Firestorm51493

Renegade was during tiberium dawn so it is both,

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Relifed
Relifed

true but tiberian dawn is older

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Smallchange
Smallchange

wow....WOAH

this is totaly amazing :D :D

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GooberTrooper
GooberTrooper

Nice! Really good Carnius! Can't wait!

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alenoguerol
alenoguerol

now we need some mutant abrams tanks

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-Redeemer-
-Redeemer-

oh hell yeah!
All hail Carnius!
YOU ARE FREAKIN' AWESOME!!!

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AbsolutePr00f
AbsolutePr00f

amazing

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not_a_fbi_agent
not_a_fbi_agent

will this be able to transport infantry?

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Carnius Author
Carnius

Im not decided that yet but maybe yes.

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Death_Night_674
Death_Night_674

That'd be nice. I'm not sure about the scale of the humvee, but if it's bigger than the APC, then maybe you can transport 2 infantry squads in it.

Still looks awesome, though.

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Relifed
Relifed

as most of the people know you can't put more then 1 squad in it because then they will be stuck in it somehow :/ EA fixed this for kw by changing the engine a bit but carnius is unable to do that

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Oaks
Oaks

Will not replace the looted pitbull? but,the role is..exact the same I think. Looted pitbulls as support power ? The maps without mutant howels will be boring.Are we getting closer to the Forgotten faction,or just more options how to support your army if you will capture mutant howel? I fear that we will be using just mutants instead of our own army. You know where I aim ?

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Carnius Author
Carnius

Good question. That is exactly what im worry about too. Its cool to have mutants back with all this extra stuff, but all this units should only support your forces not replace them. Some restrictions must be applied to avoid that that is sure.

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playmsbk
playmsbk

Since they are all scrapped vehicles with old technology armor and rusty weak bodies, their main disadvantage should be less armor than their main faction counterparts.

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FortressMaximus
FortressMaximus

For this reason I suggest Mutants should be the 4th side. Looted Pitbull should be the early scout with stealth detector and good firepower against air units (like Seeker for Scrin), Humvee is more suited for transport unit and early infantry killer. So there is no need to replace it. Rhe most important thing is to keep in mind the exact role and purpose for each unit.

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playmsbk
playmsbk

Do you really think a Humvee can fit a Marauder squad with 7 memebers? O_O

But Forgotten as a 4h side is still awesome, yet time consuming. Consider it after 1.5.

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FortressMaximus
FortressMaximus

Oh well, if the space inside isn't enough then put infantry squad behind like a pick up. :p Jokes apart, if you think the old fashioned war bus or war camper are better infantry transport, it's fine for me. For the rest, do you have some other suggestions give it a different role from Looted Pitbull?

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playmsbk
playmsbk

If the Forgotten get to become the 4th faction, the Humvee just should not be so versatile, it'd be horrible for balance, the Humvee would fit the role of scout\t1 AP vehicle, while the Pitbull would be the scout\t1 AA-AT vehicle. For the mutants I imagine something more.. armored, like the Battle Fortress in RA2.

But let's focus on 1.5. I believe that the Humvee as a transport is a horrible idea, well, even having some sort of APC for the Forgotten is a horrible idea, all the factions have one, a mutant APC is not needed. But since you want the Looted Pitbul in (as I do), I will give you some way to keep it. Make it available only through some kind of reinforcement power available from the Hovel and once you have an airgield structure. There comes some big TD Hercules aircraft and drops the Pitbuls off at a special location. The Pitbuls have slightly more armor, are faster and deal slightly more damage than the Humvee.

@Oaks: The Forgotten do deserve some custom-made tank, not just a scrapped unit they found, but something they made themselves out of parts they got.

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FortressMaximus
FortressMaximus

You mean a reinforcement unit like the Predator for GDI? Ok, but if you don't want the transport ability then the small stealth detection is needed.

For the rest i still need to understand if the mastodon is the MBT or a late game unit.

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yarow12
yarow12

And how's is "mutated" exactly? o.O

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Oaks
Oaks

Since all mutant infantry is healing in tiberium,and are very specialized and vehicles are multipurpose,therefore they have big quality.they are using their own tiberium based weapons.so their units arent cheap.they have manpower,firepower and elite infantry.but their vehicle number should be somehow limited I think,and you have the point that their vehicles are old and rusty.therefore decreased armor and stamina.from now,the battles for mutant howels will be really something.and I hope that someday even AI will be using mutants.

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Oaks
Oaks

Humvee as APC role ?.still better than war camper.But I thought the Mastodon will be garrisonable too.(4 slots I think).And if we will theoretically think of mutants as of full faction,what would be a MBT role unit? Tick tank ? I am very pleased Carnius differenciazed(thats one horrible word) mutants from any other mutants on other CNC3 modes.(like the Forgotten mode)

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C&CFan
C&CFan

Yeah its like a Humvee! I love humvees

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Alucard_Sn1p3r87
Alucard_Sn1p3r87

The humvee got replaced by the wolverine. Tech wise shortly after the first tiberium war after the War enviroment started changing due to the effects of tiberium. And thus the Wolverine was born. A one man operated light walker with duel chain/machine guns designed to take out infantry and light armor threats.

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sgfan206
sgfan206

NICE! Looks way better than the mutant pitbull from the former version!

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Nuclear_ICEBURG
Nuclear_ICEBURG

Is there any set time frame on which we might be able to expect the update to 1.5, do you have an idea, or just working on it whenever you can?

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Blak-Dragon
Blak-Dragon

Should mutant hovel infantry & vehicles benefit from GDI & Nod upgrades to armor or weapons ?

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