In an alternate timeline where the Battle of Endor did not transpire well for the Rebels, fight for power in a new war as the Black Sun Pirates, Empire, or Mandalorians. Featuring two converted factions, graphical enhancements, new nonplayable factions, GCs, and more.

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Lore:

The false Intel of Imperial Admirals that the Emperor had lost at Endor has brought the Empire to near collapse. Their ambitions have led to a galaxy divided with many worlds unprotected as rogue warlords seize pieces for themselves. As a result, the Imperial garrison at Kamino was withdrawn to aid the Emperor in retaking Coruscant, which had attempted to gain independence. In the wake of their departure, the Kaminoans discovered an old abandoned landing platform from the Clone Wars. The location had some old vehicles and weapons present but were in need of repair. More importantly, however, there was a container of Jango Fett’s DNA amongst the site’s wreckage. Lama Su, seeing a great opportunity before him, re-initiated the cloning program and the revitalization of the platform. The platform would serve as a new headquarters for the new Kaminoan business venture: provide protection with Clones for former Imperial worlds now undefended due to civil war and provide cloned organs and body parts for medical facilities across the galaxy. Both of these policies turned out to be a lucrative with worlds already offering funds for protection and medical supplies. Now Lama Su with Taun We and their new Clone Army stand ready to expand their venture throughout the galaxy.

However, partially into the production of a new Clone Army, a mysterious imperial ship arrived in orbit. This was the ship of Zeta Magnus, who was forced off his Palace world of Rennek by the Empire of the Hand. After some time traveling the galaxy and obtaining additional supplies at Eriadu, he came in contact with a Hutt informant who spoke of a growing Clone Army in the far east at Kamino. Seizing the opportunity and running a Corellian blockade attempt at the planet, he managed to make his way to Rothana and then Kamino. In exchange for his own personal army of clone warriors and Sun Guards to retake Rennek, he provided his advanced cloning knowledge to Kaminoans regarding mobile cloning facilities and Spaarti processes. Additionally, he provided them with remaining CIS contacts in order to convince them to assist in preventing his own accelerated aging. The end result of the bargain created what the Rebel Alliance dubbed a "Neo CIS" that was winning over more extreme or abused elements of the galaxy such as Manaan and Jabiim. Further complicating matters, Czerka Corporation and Telgorn shipping, hearing of a potentially lucrative initiative, joined Rothana Engineering to supply the growing army. Will this new force grow to conquer the galaxy, or will it merely become of footnote like its two predecessors were?

Current Kamino Roster

Ground Units:

Clone Riflemen

Clone Missile Trooper

Clone Rail Trooper

TX-130 Tank

AT-XT Walker

LAAT Gunship

Space Units:

V-19 Torrent

Prototype Y-Wing

Consular-class cruiser

Acclamator

Valiant

Heroes:

Taun We

Lama Su

Orun Wa

Zeta Magnus

Tarin

Zian Finnis

The Crimson Aces

??? ????? (Mystery Hero)

Commandos (Minor)

Kaminoan Fleet Commander (Minor)

Special:

Clone Warriors

Sun Guard Morgukai

Maps:

Kamino Landing Platform

Hypori Droid Factory

Bespin Platforms

Yavin IV Space (with destroyed Death Star now)

P.S. Two additional playable factions are hinted at in the new text.

IG-88 Rising

IG-88 Rising

News 5 comments

A lore update for the Kaminoans and their Roster for the eventual demos release (potentially subject to change). Current Map changes are listed at the...

Pirates vs. Mandalorians 1.0 Released!

Pirates vs. Mandalorians 1.0 Released!

News 3 comments

Pirates vs. Mandalorians has exited open beta! Download it today, and prepare for another bonus on the horizon.

PvM update: 12/14/14

PvM update: 12/14/14

News 3 comments

After months in hiatus, Pirates vs. Mandalorians returns with open beta 0.99!

PvM Update: 03/05/14

PvM Update: 03/05/14

News 2 comments

0.97 is upon us! The update will bring several new features to help make the galaxy feel like Star Wars.

Pirates vs. Mandalorians 1.02 Patch

Pirates vs. Mandalorians 1.02 Patch

Patch 3 comments

Requires Pirates vs. Mandalorians 1.1. Extract to your PvM folder in your Mods folder. This patch provides a GC adjustment, some tech level adjustments...

Pirates vs. Mandalorians 1.01 Patch

Pirates vs. Mandalorians 1.01 Patch

Patch 6 comments

Requires Pirates vs. Mandalorians 1.0. Extract to your PvM folder in your Mods folder. This patch fixes issues relating to the Mandalorian tech system...

Pirates vs. Mandalorians 1.0

Pirates vs. Mandalorians 1.0

Full Version 7 comments

The first full version of Pirates vs. Mandalorians! Fight as the Black Sun Pirates, Galactic Empire, or Mandalorians with new units on new planets against...

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snarzer
snarzer

i have a suggestion.
could you add N-K Necrosis as a build able hero?

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Mogenar Creator
Mogenar

According to Falkenhayn, N-K Necrosis is a planned hero for the Droid Revolution in IG-88 Rising.

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snarzer
snarzer

well thats cool
but i was gonna suggest him being like buildable on a planet for any faction's use. making it a bit interesting.
anyways do you know what units are gonna be usable in the droid faction?

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yoyor
yoyor

can you tell me how to increase the space battle unit cap ? or are you increasing that in next update (50 is better)

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Mogenar Creator
Mogenar

None of the pop caps are set in stone. That being said, if you would like to change the cap for yourself, look for the appropriate line in Factions.xml or Expansion_Factions.xml.

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snarzer
snarzer

This is preety cool
oone question i ask is that can you add a option where you can select which tech level you could start at

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Mogenar Creator
Mogenar

That was deliberately removed because it breaks the XML script used for the Mandalorian tech system.

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snarzer
snarzer

i see. guess its fine

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RockNRollJoe0830
RockNRollJoe0830

A suggestion for the Kamino faction. Why not add a Starkiller clone? This gives the, Kamino a force user to help balance out against the other faction. Also I need to go back into the EU lore to suggest a Mandlaorian force user that can fit in the time frame. Lastly for the Pirates simply add Darth Maul. That's just my opinion on how to give every faction a force user.

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Mogenar Creator
Mogenar

Remember that, as an RTS, the game can be easily balanced so that a faction without Force users can combat a faction that does have Force users. Maul's tale is as of yet unfinished, and his criminal contacts were severed at the end of the Clone Wars. Maul would currently be a stretch to add to Black Sun unless the rest of his canon changes.

Gotab would be the best Mandalorian Force user candidate, but there aren't currently any free release models of Mandalorians with lightsabers.

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StephenG2014
StephenG2014

Good idea :)

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RockNRollJoe0830
RockNRollJoe0830

Thanks I hope its looked at. I remember back in the day suggesting these things when beta was being worked on. The prototype AT-AT's would be a bad *** ground unit too. As for suggestions for the droids, I'll have to brainstorm on some EU.

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RockNRollJoe0830
RockNRollJoe0830

That is if your making the Kaminoans a playable faction :D

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Falkenhayn
Falkenhayn

Thank you for your suggestion. I did at one point consider adding a Starkiller clone considering two are alive at the end of Force Unleashed 2 or even a potential X3. However I decided to go in a bit of a different direction so to speak. This has resulted in their lore being changed a little bit as well as boosting Kamino's Hero roster from two to around seven. What inspired me to go this mystery route was basically an obscure EU character I came across. Stay tuned I intend on making a new news post about it.

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sandtrooper956
sandtrooper956

Really, seven??? Wow can't wait to see who you have added, maybe some Clone heroes?

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Falkenhayn
Falkenhayn

Well when the news post is done it will reveal 6/7 heroes. The Last one I might run a bit of a competition with to see if anybody can guess him (hints will be given of course). He is pretty obscure though so I am not sure if anybody will know him. To be honest the expanded heroes is what has been delaying release at this point because the expanded lore has fleshed things out a bit more than originally anticipated. Once the Kaminoans are completed I also intend to have a couple more surprises as well.

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sandtrooper956
sandtrooper956

Awesome, good to know lots of things are still happening behind the scenes :)

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