Rise Of The Reds is an expansion mod for Generals: Zero Hour that adds the Russian Federation, European Continental Alliance and is packed with overhauls and changes to the original factions. Whether it's steamrolling Russians, indomitable European defenders, American high-tech, Chinese strength in numbers or the brutal cunning of the GLA - Rise of the Reds has a faction for everyone's tastes - even to take your opponents on land, air and sea!

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JamBai
JamBai Sep 7 2013, 6:37am says:

So HOT!

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CaptainIstvan
CaptainIstvan Sep 7 2013, 7:51am replied:

agreed

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JarateHunter
JarateHunter Sep 8 2013, 10:41pm replied:

...I see what you did there.

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RS|Robert
RS|Robert Sep 7 2013, 6:41am says:

Dragon tank on steroids? Gimme!!

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The_Hunter649
The_Hunter649 Sep 7 2013, 6:44am replied:

A dragon tank does not compare to how dangerous this thing is.

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JamBai
JamBai Sep 7 2013, 6:50am replied:

A question! will it benefit from Nuclear Engines?

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The_Hunter649
The_Hunter649 Sep 7 2013, 7:02am replied:

yes it does but obviously not the uranium shells.

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shubat
shubat Sep 7 2013, 7:46am replied:

if this thing combust map textures and peel em off i sue you P

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theonewhonevergivesa
theonewhonevergivesa Sep 7 2013, 7:17am replied:

It is not much of Dragon tank on steroids, it's more like subproduct of Dragon Tank and Overlord tank's one night stand.

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polerus
polerus Sep 11 2013, 4:23pm replied:

With several fertility pills.

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Guest
Guest Sep 7 2013, 7:10am says:

question does this tank can attack with fire balls like the little one in shockwave???
that would be interesting and fun if you can choose between fire ballls and fire walls

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theonewhonevergivesa
theonewhonevergivesa Sep 7 2013, 7:18am replied:

It has either long narrow streams of flame, short but wide spraying and something in-between as I see from description.

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TheMedrik
TheMedrik Sep 7 2013, 7:26am says:

Burn, baby, burn! :)

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Dynamo128
Dynamo128 Sep 7 2013, 7:33am says:

ohhhhhhh yeah

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aCVfan
aCVfan Sep 7 2013, 7:34am says:

It is very similar to the Dragon Lord tank from 'The European Conflict' mod (now called 'Deep Impact').

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Anubis_theDark
Anubis_theDark Sep 7 2013, 7:51am replied:

It's similar to a dual gun flame tank, which wasn't invented by us (European Conflict/Deep Impact), nor contra nor 'place random mod name'. Just like dual gun tanks have been done for ages, dual flame gun tanks are no different.

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theonewhonevergivesa
theonewhonevergivesa Sep 7 2013, 8:06am replied:

Kinda date back to either Tiberian Dawn or Renegade (where flame tang got a turret).

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dcesarec
dcesarec Sep 7 2013, 9:03am buried:

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An awesome idea and great original concept!
Heavy flame tank with double barreled turret and Chinese name. Its almost i never saw it before....oh wait...wait a second...i have made something like that
http://www.moddb.com/mods/contra/images/china-immolator#imagebox

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The_Hunter649
The_Hunter649 Sep 7 2013, 9:30am replied:

Figured someone would eventualy pop this one.

dcesarec i respect your work but we're not in to rip off anyone not to mention that the goal we have in our mod is entirely different from Contra.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to come up with the idea that it might be interesting to have a heavy flame tank for a faction that has napalm weapons exclusively.

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dcesarec
dcesarec Sep 7 2013, 9:39am buried:

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Ofcourse i will pop up because i cant get rid of the feeling having this units in so many ways similar to our. You guys made double barreled flame heavy tank with chinese dragon name. I mean seriously, at least you could change concept.

But ok ok, i know i will be in minority here and buried soon. I really cant wait to see what those modular weapon system will be. Can i suggest vortex cannon perhaps?

I rexpected SWR work, especially with schockwave, but lately im having hard time rexpecting most of your units.

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The_Hunter649
The_Hunter649 Sep 7 2013, 9:54am replied:

Well like i said we're not in it to rip off anyone.

And i have no idea what a vortex cannon would translate into ingame to begin with :)

And the last time i played any version of contra was before you were even part of that team to begin with and i don't remember vortex cannons from that.

As you said in a recent news post this engine has alot of annoying limitations so its not strange if 2 people start walking on the same road because all the others are closed so to say.

Also if you realy have some sort of problem with this sort of thing you can just send me a pm or something and have a dialog about this provided you can keep this on a mature level.

This sort of comments are rather tiresome to read everytime something is mildly simmulair.

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dcesarec
dcesarec Sep 7 2013, 9:51am buried:

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Your mod goal is totally different from Contra, well i have seen so many similar cybernetic units to ours. And now you guys even have faction with napalm weapons....

Cant wait to see all of your factions when its done...

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St4lk3r
St4lk3r Sep 7 2013, 10:01am replied:

What? Napalm General? Contra must have ripped that from Zero Hour Reborn.

And there's a HUGE difference between Cybernetic units (Androids, Mechs, etc.) and UAVs

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Anubis_theDark
Anubis_theDark Sep 7 2013, 9:37am replied:

OMG DUDE YOU ARE FREKIN AWSOME! OMG OMG OMG! Thank God for geniuses like you, or else we would all be blinded by ignorance and infatuation. Oh wait ...

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dcesarec
dcesarec Sep 7 2013, 9:45am buried:

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Anubis...you are extremely funny. Im not idiot, we didnt invent double barreled flame tank...But yes, we made it on overlords chassis, looking more like dragon style, and having chinese dragon name. This is so...just like their version of our unit....nothing else...in which way this unit can be original and different than ours?

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Anubis_theDark
Anubis_theDark Sep 7 2013, 9:51am replied:

In the same way yours is sooo different and original from say the nod flame tank in cnc3. Using the ovie chassis is out of pure logic - why would you create a totaly new chassis that would eventually end up being almost the same in style. As for double barrel flame tank - for **** sake it's been done since cnc 95. It just had 2 treads instead of 4. Claiming originality over something as simple as a dual barrel flame gun on quad tread chassis is like claiming originality over vodka flavored condoms, even though flavored condoms exist for decades.

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dcesarec
dcesarec Sep 7 2013, 9:54am buried:

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You obviously dont understand the difference between GAMES and MODS!

I will say here facts only:
- mod contra, mod rotr
- mod contra - double barreled overlord chassis flame tank with chinese name for flame faction
- mod rotr - one year later, double barreled overlord chassis flame tank with chinese name for flame faction

Tell me are those facts true or not??

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The_Hunter649
The_Hunter649 Sep 7 2013, 9:59am replied:

Immolator is not a chinese name as far as i know.

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dcesarec
dcesarec Sep 7 2013, 10:01am buried:

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Read its description once again.

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Anubis_theDark
Anubis_theDark Sep 7 2013, 10:02am replied:

Fact - multiple people may like the same thing.
Fact - if one thing exists since decades and 2 people see it, it might, MIGHT just pop up the same idea for both of them.
Fact - just because 2 people use the same idea that ALREADY existed in a more or less similar way - doesn't make ANYONE of the 2 the original brain behind that idea.
Fact - almost nothing in contra is fken original. It's either real life stuff or based on some game/deviant art design. So claiming originality over something that is based on an already existing concept is frekin useless.

Next you'll be claiming rights over battlestar galactica or obama's drone use. Hell, if i were you i'd address this to Putin - how dares America use Drones - only contra has that.

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dcesarec
dcesarec Sep 7 2013, 10:10am buried:

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Using concept from another game, or someones drawing is not the same as using same idea (same in so many ways which i have already explained) from a existing mod for same game and publish it as their own. At least you can have different looking unit for that purpose. He said that he was waiting someone to popup about that, so he was aware of all that. Is it too hard to make something different for same purpose? I know, it doesnt make any sense to argue here between rotr fans. But i just couldnt look at it and not saying anything. And such things are more and more often lately.

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The_Hunter649
The_Hunter649 Sep 7 2013, 10:14am replied:

Hence why i suggested a pm session or perhaps even on an instant messenger such as skype.

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dcesarec
dcesarec Sep 7 2013, 10:27am buried:

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Why? I wasnt rude and i wasnt insulting anyone. Am i not allowed to express my opinion about this specific model? Let other people see my opinion and let them judge by themself.

I only have a question. How did you knew someone will pop up and compare it with contra unit? You was aware of similarity?

And additional question, have you read description again? Huo Qi Lin is the name of chinese dragon.

So once again, we both have heavy double barreled overlord chassis flame tank named as china dragon.

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The_Hunter649
The_Hunter649 Sep 7 2013, 10:36am replied:

I never said you were rude and i expected this to happen because it seems to occur every single time we post which is mildly simmulair to something also in contra.

Either by you or someone else.

The reason i offered a dialog is because i fail to see any valid reasons to start an argument over this in the first place.

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Kalga
Kalga Sep 7 2013, 12:09pm replied:

*Throws in more fuel to the flame*

A lot of real life military design rip off/copy/inspired from other known designs and almost no one complaint about them. So unless it's the usage of actual models without owners permission there really shouldn't be a problem...

Heck, we can argue all day about how the MiG 15 is a total ripoff of the F-86 or that the Tu 160 is a copy of the B-1 Lancer... These examples are intentionally bad to show how dumb such arguments are.

My point is just calm down, no one is actually trying to steal anyone else's thunder.

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Nuttah
Nuttah Sep 7 2013, 12:42pm replied:

Are you seriously bitching over a CHINESE FLAME TANK being named after a ******* DRAGON?
Next, I guess you'll complain over a German tank design named after a cat or something. Maybe a Russian named after a bear? Gee we really should call the creativity police, eh?
I'm pretty sure I've seen both Cylons and Terminators among your **** to boot so I kind of doubt you have any right to complain over folks stealing your ideas even if you were even close to right anyway.

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dcesarec
dcesarec Sep 7 2013, 1:37pm buried:

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You are being a retarded idiot (now i need to be rude too). Cylon and Terminator is idea and concept which is not found in another ZERO HOUR MOD! Get this in your retarded empty head! And i always write from where i took concept, im not being ignorant when someone asks me about idea!

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Nuttah
Nuttah Sep 7 2013, 3:35pm replied:

Oh, so it's fine to steal from people as long as they don't work on the same stuff as you do?
Well ****, I just might grab myself some Metallica albums and make myself some profitable movie.

At least I now won't ever feel bad for not trying Contra again.
You seriously flatter your non-existent or just unused creativity.

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miguelvale
miguelvale Sep 7 2013, 8:46pm replied:

actually, i remember a terminator unit existing in a red alert 2 mod back in the day...

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Orac|
Orac| Sep 11 2013, 9:32am replied:

This dcesarec guy is a bit of a douche, isn't he?

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Anubis_theDark
Anubis_theDark Sep 7 2013, 10:22am replied:

You mistake me for a fanboy. I am simply trying to explain to you that a dual barrel flame overlord is not something only contra had imagined. Hell i drew/coded one for European Conflict years ago. And we don't claim any rights about it. It's a very simple and basic idea. The reason Hunter was expecting this is because you among a few other contra members/fans have been accusing people of the same **** before over basic as **** ideas. Get this already - a flame overlord is nothing original. It's not even close to the idea of original.

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IPS
IPS Sep 7 2013, 10:37am replied:

If I may pop a line as the designer of this unit.
At the time I draw the sketches for this tank I had not seen the tank you use in contra.
I found your design after I completed the initial model.
The Overlord chassis was only choosen because of logical reasons, like many real experimental tanks use allready existing chassis as well.

As a desinger I allways try to go for the most original ideas, finding other designs simmilar to mine is actually a reason to start all over with my design process to make things as different as possible.
In this case however I personally did not see any reason to do so.

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Kalga
Kalga Sep 8 2013, 12:46pm replied:

Congrats on your superheavy flame tank causing a flame war...

... though it's probably not the one you're expecting.

Sorry, can't resist making the pun here.

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NeverLose
NeverLose Oct 29 2013, 9:15am replied:

Is it over? I want to see some more...
(Joke maybe?)

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Xofolez
Xofolez Sep 7 2013, 2:17pm replied:

Its stuff like this why I love to place Steve Job's iTech and contra in the same pool, mind you they do the same thing- non-universal freedom, A.K.A. we only want you to use our product no one elses and if they use our concept ideas then we will be like a disturbed wasp's nest. By the way, I support Anubis on this point- took the words right out of my mouth.

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V.Metalic
V.Metalic Sep 9 2013, 3:58pm replied:

Do you support also Anubis' tendency to say to others that they are imbeciles and only his opinion is the right one?

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Anubis_theDark
Anubis_theDark Sep 10 2013, 6:53am replied:

Come on Volen, stop being such a grudgy little stalker. If you have something to say to me personally - use skype. But stalking my comments or other people's comments about me - really ...

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V.Metalic
V.Metalic Sep 11 2013, 8:33am replied:

There is nothing to say between us, because I already told you that. You are the most arrogant person I have ever met, which I greatly regrets. Nothing more.

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Xofolez
Xofolez Sep 14 2013, 12:54pm replied:

to be honest I do not usually, but him and i can see eye to eye on things, he just takes a more boorish approach while i am more subtle and more friendlier in the way i approach something i feel opinionated about lol

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miguelvale
miguelvale Sep 7 2013, 8:44pm replied:

yeah, they could have created something that did the same as a heavy, dual weapon, quad treaded flame tank with a chinese dragon tank but not like that... maybe a dual, treaded weapon, dragon tanked, chinese flame. sounds about right? cause this is more or less what you're saying here.

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Personally designed by the aspiring General Mau, the ZTZ202 Shenlong (which literally translates to 'Spirit Dragon') is a heavily modified version of China's iconic ZTZ200 Overlord Tank whose entire turret has been replaced with two heavily armoured, high-pressure flamethrowers. In addition, the tank has been equipped with an auxiliary engine unit which provides its turret swivel with extra power to perform a fast, finely aimed sweeping motion with the flamethrowers which can be set to a narrow, medium and wide angle in order to cover a smaller or larger area in a literal sea of hellfire. Beyond that, it is rumoured that General Mau is currently working on a further modified version of the tank which can be equipped with modular weapon systems.

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