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Hello

I have to say that i am not into Christian dogma anymore because i am fed up with it and i realized that i hate preachers and conversion agents from both Christianity and Islam that try to make me accept their religion
I dislike them and if they insist i begin hating them
Will never become an atheist because the old gods called to me and will always remain at the other extreme from atheism which is polytheism where i feel more free , just a bit more free in these times and this world

They kinda won , apparently a battle now with the election which i am not content with but perhaps they have not won the war

Just sharing my thoughts is all

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Necrolifer
Necrolifer

You can always become an agnostic,you know.
Not everyone around here is a blowhard atheist.

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TheUnbeholden
TheUnbeholden

Many notable atheists are brainwashed with third wave feminism & multiculturalism/equality non-sense that is a modern invention and has no baring on reality..

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There's nothing I got against atheists right now , maybe never again

Not sure agnostic is for me
Will become fully pagan most likely

Maybe someone will wanna discuss the current election results here in a perspective other than what happens in the Christian group or the Debate society of course
I would discuss it at my group too but I don't know what to say more other than what I said at my profile front page

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Necrolifer
Necrolifer

There's nothing much to discuss about the elections and how the americans managed to get a clown elected. Endorsed by lunatics like Alex Jones and paranoids like Mark Dice. Yeah,America might just be Paranoia Land.

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TheUnbeholden
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Actually we have proof that most conspiracies are true: from central bank rigging of capital markets, to political rigging of elections (electronic voting machines strip and flip technique, registering of millions of illegals and dead people voting, trump ahead in ALL swing states by 10-15 points yet lost 5 to hillary where she got 100% of the votes in municipalities with Diebold machines), to media rigging of public sentiment (oversampling democrats in their polls as high as 7-8 points eg Reuters/IPSIS), and now, commercial bank rigging of both silver and gold (Deutche Bank paid 60 million to settle the class action lawsuit that was filed in July 2014, slap on the wrist). Thanks to wikileaks, DNC leak, Guccifer leaks etc In short, "tinfoil hat-wearing nutjobs living in their parents basement" were right all along that the political, media and economy/finance systems has been rigged by big business and govt two party collusion for a anti-freedom ideology of globalism that benefits the top 0.01% (though mostly on the left since its dominated by the left at the moment). Things people into conspiracy theories have been saying all along.

Sure "flat earth" and "reptilian" **** is still non-sense but conspiracies based on people in powerful positions, that's not theory thats accusations based on facts and leads, that are just confirmed or unconfirmed, those waiting on confirmation (or corroboration) turn out to be true most of the time.

Thres also massive corporate welfare (100 times larger than social welfare) and hiring in govt and business based on who you know (or race with affirmative action) rather than on merit. Arbitrary hate speech laws in the EU thats been getting worse over the past 3 decades, originally starting with holocaust laws.

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Is going to become worse than we think and it will get bad before it can get better

I expect is going to be a massive mess with overturning of state and a nasty event they do not expect
And the " God is on our side , who can stand against us " is becoming more annoying than i ever thought it would become for me
Too much self entitlement is never a good thing

I could speak more openly but the internet is full of eyes and ears and i rather not , at least not now

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ZeTo49
ZeTo49

Hello,
"we told you so". Ted Cruz would be even worse you know: he wanted a theocracy in America! And we know he was not only saying that for the votes, he was not a populist after all, but "a true believer".

I'm not surprised either by Trump. he is from deep within the system, someone promissing heaven for the working class, using far right and fascist propaganda to win. And now what? We worldwide have been pushing things to this moment, ever since the 90's. We should not expect a diferent world if we jump into the rethoric that has lead us here.

now Europe has the green light for Le pen and other populists. We are all guilty.

somewhere online people say things like, "hell, Trump is a good man, he just needed to speak to the far right that's all". Ok, he is a nice man in private, but what does it say about the people who voted for him? If he says those things to get elected, how bad is Liberalism to its core (see how Sarkozy needs to blame on foreign people already, to at least stay in the race against Le pen).

There are eyes and ears, but you are not alone in your worries. it's time to get serious. Black people from america are calling to boycote Christmas (it's their cultural protest), people in italy are talking about Socialism again. It's time to separate the waters and know that some work for the system, despite their propaganda and rethoric.

All they want is to let you out of the process, that is the point of Paranoia Land and their spokesmen.

We need reason in our lives. There is too much Bull Sh*t around.

And honestly, as a communist, I'm glad that Trump won. In Marxist Theory it's said the more they push back and down, the more we radicalize. And that is all we need.

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Too bad

Mrs. Clinton was actually standing for what used to mean America : democracy , , tolerance , equal chances for everyone , etc. etc.

Is the fall of this empire as we know it...

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ZeTo49
ZeTo49

I would like to see a black woman for president of USA, or someone from the LGBTQ community and Clinton was indeed clearing the way for that.

Now, I don't think everybody has an equal choice in America, when politicians and big bankers eat at the same table. That is where we should get radical and contribute to a different system outside Capitalism itself.

Ultimately, that is the Liberal issue (economics and social relations) and we are forced to blow it up.

See for instance since 2008's crash no measures were applied to regulate the global economy. Not one single rule. And people even want less regulation. Not to mention the amounts of wars imperialism needs to support itself from abroad. The sack is permanent, now it will be the Tea Party sacking their own people.

It was inevitable. That is how capitalism works. No social democracy can fix it either and people know it already, but since the left stands in tatters, there is no other chance than vote for Trump, le pen and many other populists.

However, the defeat of Liberalism is an opportunity for Socialism. bernie Sanders was already marching that way (not that he had a real chance anyways, but something has changed in that realm too). Maybe in the future we'll see a Socialist Democratic Party in America, instead of this liberal one. That would be the counter-act the world needs, but we need to F. organize and get real with this, otherwise there will be only more nonesense to eat.

Le pen is going to win, get ready for a shake Europe. then if Germany goes that way, we might end up destroying the European union. That sounds ok for many out there, but you should know your money, your precarious jobs will disapear in that day. Nothing will replace it. Think about it.

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Necrolifer
Necrolifer

You know,I'm actually kinda tired of seeing the development of like twelve thousand genders and such ****. There are only TWO genders,as nature has ordained. Of course,I have nothing against homosexuals or lesbians,I believe in equal rights and all that,but creating other genders and various names for them is totally idiotic and nonsensical. All that "polymorphysapioamorous2clever4u" ******** is really ******* me off.
Damn,you really fancy yourself a socialist/communist?
Also,this sudden rise of populism and toxic nationalism in Europe is rather nasty. Could lead to serious consequences and utterly retarded decisions.

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ZeTo49
ZeTo49

I'm a socialist/communist because socialism is all about economics.

Honestly I don't see any conflict in gender struggles and Socialism. The gender issue is something we should at least understand. It makes no sense we desire the emancipation of an ethnic group and care less about gender struggle. There is an History of Sexuality by Foucault that brings these fights into the global fight that Socialists want to start. Diferent repressed groups had always room in building up Socialism. Leninism (and Marxism for that matter) wanted to emancipate women through economic war (Socialism). In the very first day of the URSS, there was no other place on earth where the female side of the working class could be free. The first lady running office anywhere (not considering monarchic powers) was the URSS (Comerade Kollontai).

The Gender struggle has achieved its relevance in Liberal economies. We cannot continue to ignore the new realities. of course there is a limit where we enter Bulshit 1-0-1, I agree with you there. But there is no conflict. Take people like J. Butler on Feminism and new gender problems.

See for instance how Marx endorced the "Jewish Question" by declaring that Jew would not simply need to emancipate themselves from their own religion (Judaism, as Bruno Bauer has suggested), but instead, that religion itself was to be abolished. The very same movement today on the gender issue: LGBTQ is a liberal construct. In socialism you will emancipate everybody from their particular struggles by aiming to an economical revolution (basic power-structure in Marxist Theory).

Lenin even called for the end of the Unions. Why? because their struggles, their particular struggles make no sense once you achieve Socialism. Unions are part of the fight against Capitalism.

So, you see. there is no conflict in supporting all sorts of exotic fights, because in the end, the goal we seek is beyond LGBTQ fights.

While liberals want to promote individuality, we want to overcome it. But for that, you must take what is already there in the world. Stalin messed up with Religion and Autoritarianism. The ultra left blames him for that, since it was a step back (Gramsci even calls the Russian revolution the revolt against Capital, the book!). We do not. We take every fight and elevate them into something actually relevant (Economics). The rest will be history.

About toxic populism: i agree, but we do also need tension to come back. They at least are clearing the way towards autonomy (reviving the concept, I mean). We need to strike in there and shift realities, that's what socialism is all about (that's why Liberals call us totalitarians and nazis **** their pants when the name Ivan Sidorenko is recovered from the ashes).

LGBTQ is not the way. it's the tool liberals lunch on themselves. We take that opportunity as Marat did in the French Revolution. We need class struggle. First thing is to destroy the liberal concept of tolerance. Pragmatism is the only solution we have - that's a lesson from Lenin himself. i don't like it either. I would much prefer the Romantic XIX century concept of the People. But that is just a dream.

i hope you reconsider your position about my "fancy" way of seeing things. I am a totalitarian for liberals, have no doubts about it. All I pray for is to see their corruption to be complete in my lifetime. If that requires messing around with what there is out there and put aside, strategically, an idea of pure revolution (as Leftism always dream of), so be it. Stalin knew it already. We, after him and the knowledge that the history of revolution provides, have no illusions. As Robespierre had none as well. Radicalism meant we achieve a goal by any means, even dirty politics.

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Nobody wanted those precarious jobs in the first place , people were fine and dandy in own country ( before communism fallen ) and were receiving constant , respectable pay for their profession
Then the revolution came ( i mean the one in 1989 in Dracula's country cos i got no idea what happened elsewhere much , i was little by then ) and everyone fled to Europe and with time a new class of people that work abroad in countries like Italy , Spain , Portugal too was created and they brought money back in the country after doing lousy , bad jobs in these other countries so they can afford to live themselves , afford to raise their children and so on
This is the Balkanic story in a gist
While in communist times , from what i remember my parents told me , everyone was living a higher standard of life , affording seaside or mountainside holidays every year , affording to go out dine at restaurants , affording to go trips in other communist countries like Russia , better clothes , better food on the table that yes it was harder to come by for some but with some connections , profession by profession deals , everything was fine
Classes were partitioned and distinguished well and no gypsy or countrysides folk would rub elbows with medics , engineers and such unlike now when the former have money and german cars while the latter barely afford to live with a lousy salary they get for that profession these days

The story of USA is like this in short and i am going to use populist terms so everybody can understand
First they went and blew up cars and demolished houses almost everywhere in the Middle East and not just there , and with time they realized they are too far stretched , not to mention their massive debt , and the others on Earth began to be ****** by these acts of theirs and now good ol USA wants to recover , close its doors so it can rest and lick its wounds until coming to full strength again ( by their plans ) so they can have another go
And yep ! You said it right , now the tea-baggers , Bible-thumpers rejoice and boast that God given them a sign and helped them , maybe yes , maybe not but definitely no god would agree with their final goal that of enslaving whole Earth and imposing american laws for all of us

If the Democrats had won we had been able to see if USA could match in fair battle Russia , China and maybe more and we had come to see how tough they really were in the first place
Personally am not sure they really are , they rely on using others for own goals and then dumping them too much , they are not an old school empire , they compare themselves with ancient Rome but they are nothing like that

If USA had seen reason and realized that the only way is forward toward the future , they had wanted Mrs Clinton not this old businessman that promises the return of the good ol times for the place or whatever he thinks he will do

Law speaking the USA has to pay for all that damage they done all over the world plus the debt
In my own views and knowledge i would say they are completely screwed but will live and see what happens anyhow

And the logical , sensible result was that after a black man was in the office , a lady to follow in the office not yet another man , yet another of the same thing like they do it in GTA where all protagonists are always male
This does **** off at some aspects too of course

IMO socialism , communism can work but not entirely the old way but improved , upgraded with the times like i always mentioned at the Communist Party group
Tired of capitalism i am already , you cannot even get a damned shared file someplace without ******* you off with captchas and shoving payment options in your throat
Even the name ' PayPal ' like a taunt : Hey pal , pay ! is a friggin capitalist joke like mugger talk

What i mean to say with this is that out of my hate for capitalism i would perhaps welcome any Socialist or Communist system by this simple fact alone
I rest at the thought that i may not be the only one

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ZeTo49
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but there is much need for a strategy first.

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Yup

Strategy First ! Always loved RTS/TBS and 4X games first of them all :D

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