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PeterHat
PeterHat A Gray Swan
Sep 10 2010, 9:47am Anchor

I've seen the same post on the Escapist. But i really want to know what this community thinks about this matter . Well anyways. Ok, lets assume that one day you wake up with extremely limited time-travel powers and the only way to gain the full extent of your time-traveling powers is to travel back to January 1, 1890 in Germany and confront baby Hitler.What would you do in this situation?

Would you kill Baby Hitler?
Would you just take your full upgrade and leave?
Would you do something else?

Sep 10 2010, 10:03am Anchor

I think it depends on from which country u are, decisions will be different for people from germany, russia, poland or america. I would do nothing with Hitler in that situation.

PeterHat
PeterHat A Gray Swan
Sep 10 2010, 10:08am Anchor

Well i'm from Russia our country has faced the war but i don't want to change the time line .

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Sep 10 2010, 10:27am Anchor

No, I wouldn't, because we'd have no idea how our history would change (it may not necessarily change positively). Plus Hitler has hopefully taught most of us the dangers of hatred — even dark history is an important part of us.

Edited by: 8472

PeterHat
PeterHat A Gray Swan
Sep 10 2010, 1:57pm Anchor

If Hitler whatever never rose to power we mite have something like Red Alert in real life !

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Sep 10 2010, 2:11pm Anchor

he's not guilty of anything until he (tries) does it.

So you'd be killing an innocent baby.

An episode of the twilight zone did this.  Ends up the nanny just bought a new baby to be the replacement so she wouldn't get killed (how would you explain a time traveler killed the kid you were watching??!?!)  Besides, how would you know if you change anything?  If you succeed it was supposed to happen.  If you didn't you weren't supposed to.  :D

You're from Russia: there's quite a bit of people there that could be eliminated when they're babys for the same reasons as hitler.  ;)

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PeterHat
PeterHat A Gray Swan
Sep 10 2010, 2:24pm Anchor

Agreed ! I whoud never kill a baby even if it is Hitler. Instead i who'd kidnap him go to a diffuren time and switch baby Jesus with baby Hitler XD JUST KITTING ! But i wonder what who'd happend ?

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krg
krg The forums are a karma-free zone.
Sep 10 2010, 3:21pm Anchor

very interesting topic.

id probably leave the time frame alone.

Sep 10 2010, 3:43pm Anchor

Hitler was devastating to the world - but the world clearly needed that. The long term benefits of the war are massive, thinking in terms of "Woah, we can't let that happen again!" and an inspiring closeness between European nations - a continent which has constantly been at war since time immemorial.

Sep 10 2010, 4:02pm Anchor

screw the timeline! lets nuke a baby!

Sep 10 2010, 5:41pm Anchor

And not have nuclear energy, jet engines and space rockets (+ satelites)? There's no telling what fiddling with timelines might bring about.I'm sorry Jews. We appreciate your sacrifice.

Sep 10 2010, 6:23pm Anchor

Of course not, leave little Hitler alone!
If there hadn't been a Hitler we would have probably fought against Lenin, and Stalin could not have rose to power.

Oh, and

Assaultman67
Assaultman67 Needs a fuckin' title
Sep 11 2010, 12:43am Anchor

I wouldn't ...

But not because I would be afraid to change the timeline ... (you cant say if things would be better or worse, and to be afraid to change it just because it would change the world you exist in would be a bit selfish if you have the potencial to save millions of lives.)

At that point he hasn't done anything ... you would be better off sticking around and trying to influence his life for the better ...

I strongly believe that people who have a fully functional brain have personalities shaped upon their experiences ...

As far as I know, Hitler had a fully functional brain, but he believed he was doing the right thing for his people (which means rather than being evil incarnate, someone at some time convinced him that any sacrifice was justified if it was for the good of the people ... even if it meant war and lives)

Its the people around you that shape who you are, if you could be a positive influence to him its possible you could change his personality ...

If not, there is always option B :P

Ironically, my decision would probably kill everyone in this thread, everyone i know, everyone in the world (or rather never make them exist in the first place) and replace them with different people who could have existed given the right conditions ...

Edited by: Assaultman67

PeterHat
PeterHat A Gray Swan
Sep 11 2010, 3:24am Anchor

Yeah if Hitler never rose to power we who'd have something like Red Alert and then Fallout 3 :P After this threat i have a sudden will to play Red alert and watch Doctor Who !

I wonder what who'd happend if if The Soviet Russia who'd take over the world ?

Edited by: PeterHat

Sep 11 2010, 12:42pm Anchor

Soviet Russia didn't have the resources to take over the world... neither did Germany or any other country in that time period.

They could both kill a lot of people, but not enough to take over the world... Nowadays thats a different story.

Baby Hitler lives!

Edited by: NGS616

PeterHat
PeterHat A Gray Swan
Sep 11 2010, 1:08pm Anchor

The cold war ? We had so much resources that we could take over The world and maybe even destroy the world ! We had nukes long before the WW2 . Nuclear winter anyone ?   And don't let me started on our other firepower.

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Sep 11 2010, 1:26pm Anchor

Okay we don't need to get into this battle of the nations argument. It wouldn't have happened.

Soviet Russia, and every other nation at the time for that matter, could not have taken over the world. They would have been stopped. Humans are not complete idiots. They would band together just as they did against Germany.

Soviet Russia did not have the resources to mobilize and hold the major nations of the world. They could have used all their nukes, all of their machines and they still would be in no position to take the world.

The Allies and China would have banded together and butt fugged them all the way to Siberia.

Edited by: NGS616

Sep 11 2010, 1:33pm Anchor

I would prolly sell my wooden pc in 1970.

PeterHat
PeterHat A Gray Swan
Sep 11 2010, 2:16pm Anchor

Nobody knows what who'd happened in an alternative timeline but personally i like to stick to Red Alert Theory 
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Sep 12 2010, 10:14am Anchor

Shit man i'm ready then!

 

Sep 12 2010, 3:44pm Anchor
Assaultman67 wrote:At that point he hasn't done anything ... you would be better off sticking around and trying to influence his life for the better ...

Yeah, that's the only option that avoids any bloodshed, still, one would need to influence the baby Stalin, too... ;-) One couldn't split oneself in two.

Sep 12 2010, 4:00pm Anchor

"The cold war ? We had so much resources that we could take over The world and maybe even destroy the world ! We had nukes long before the WW2 . Nuclear winter anyone ?   And don't let me started on our other firepower. "

"We had nukes long before WW2 ."

Hurr, wha?:rolleyes:

We were developing nukes before WW2 proper, mostly because the Germans were as well. But actual working nukes, no the US bombs we dropped were the first 2 completed. Had someone asked us to carry our bluff through, we would have been beaten to shit before we won.

As to whether I would kill him. Probably not, I'd sure as fucking hell make sure he didn't end up in the Vienna slums though.

If he was dead, we would probably still end up having to fight the Japanese, where we took the majority of the casualties for WW2. Not to mention Stalin, and Churchill. Really if I was going to do something, I'd like kill the Black Hand in Austria, preventing them from killing Franz Ferdinand, and kicking off the war that allowed Hitler to gain any influence what so ever in Germany.

Assaultman67
Assaultman67 Needs a fuckin' title
Sep 12 2010, 9:18pm Anchor

I don't believe any army anywhere has the capability to conquer the world ...

China has numbers comparable to the US, but not the equipment to transport their army. However, considering their economic advantage on the world ... they don't give a shit about physically conquering land anymore.

America has the equipment, but not the numbers (we're overextended already to be honest) ... or the ruthlessness. You would have to be pretty ruthless in order to effectively utilize a military to take over the world by force (confiscate valubles, take food, take suppiles, don't get slowed down by taking prisoners, etc.)

"Good" military forces have historically acted more like bandits to their enemy civilians rather than police officers ...

Russia seems to have the most for numbers, but they seem to lack the equipment ...

The logical solution is for Russia and the US to take over the world jointly 8)

The biggest problem however doesnt have to do with armies, conquering the world would be like trying to play monopoly with dozens of 5 year olds ... eventually someone (probably the person who is losing the most) is going to say "screw you!" and flip the board (launch all their nukes)

dakorma wrote:If he was dead, we would probably still end up having to fight the Japanese, where we took the majority of the casualties for WW2. Not to mention Stalin, and Churchill. Really if I was going to do something, I'd like kill the Black Hand in Austria, preventing them from killing Franz Ferdinand, and kicking off the war that allowed Hitler to gain any influence what so ever in Germany.

That is true, WWI kinda set the conditions for Germany to start WWII ...

Edited by: Assaultman67

PeterHat
PeterHat A Gray Swan
Sep 13 2010, 7:49am Anchor

Speaking of America. Why in most of the games and movies villains are trying to conquer America first ? Also your true no country is capable of taking over the world by itself. Usually it has to be a strong union. Also you forgot one very  important element. Strategy ! I mean Hitler gave us a hard time because :
1) He was prospering for WW2 for many years.
2) He made a surprise attack and made the countries he conquered make more resources for him.

3) Stalin was a bit stupid and gave us soviets a hard time (That idiot) because he was warned before that Hitler mite attack but he didn't believe in it.

P.s: I who'd instead go back in time and worn Stalin that Hitler is attacking

Edited by: PeterHat

Kyou.
Kyou. Mornin.
Sep 13 2010, 7:57am Anchor

How come no one sees the good in war

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