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Dec 12 2010, 9:54pm Anchor

This question just makes me imagine a really cute baby with a combover  and toothbrush mustache.

Norman  Mailers Castle in the Forst is an awesome fictional retelling of Hitler's childhood, maybe a bit off-topic.
Butterfly effect be damned, I would totally kill the little mustachioed cherub. But how...baby killing is pretty gruesome buisness.

Dec 13 2010, 7:55pm Anchor

No. I would not, for the following reasons:
Hitler actually was a good leader. He invented the highway/freeway and changed Germany for the positive benefit. Until he started doing strange things.
Nazism ties into the invention of communism, brought upon us in the Russian Revolution, which drew Russia out of World War I. It was invented with good intents, however it was taken over and changed for the worst.

Pay attention in History, people.

Cryrid
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Dec 13 2010, 8:12pm Anchor

Leading your country into a war that ends up being a black stain on your country's history while making your political party synonymous with evil does not make you a good leader. Nor did he invent the Highway.

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frosty-theaussie
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Dec 14 2010, 9:39pm Anchor

how could you kill a baby? i'd prefer to duke it out with Teen Hitler on the cratered battlefields of World War One.

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Dec 31 2010, 2:56pm Anchor

No, I wouldn't. He wouldn't have done anything wrong by that point meaning I'd be killing an innocent baby.

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Jan 2 2011, 2:26am Anchor
frosty-theaussie wrote:how could you kill a baby? i'd prefer to duke it out with Teen Hitler on the cratered battlefields of World War One.

Wasn't he a courier? (Lawl)

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Jan 2 2011, 4:44am Anchor

hmmm yes he was actually.

Jan 2 2011, 5:45am Anchor

Youtube.com

Nazitubbies - Nuff said. 

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Jan 2 2011, 12:03pm Anchor

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Jan 26 2011, 12:20pm Anchor
der_uber_ower wrote:No, I wouldn't. He wouldn't have done anything wrong by that point meaning I'd be killing an innocent baby.

But you have already seen the future, he would do the his same actions again.

yarow12
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Mar 10 2011, 2:01pm Anchor

I wouldn't kill him. I'd just try to observe his life in order to understand him more. I would either stay in the shadows or become a friend of his (yeah, a friend of a little boy). When he is an adult, I will determine for myself whether or not saving millions is worth murdering a friend since that's what I'd hope to be if not just some invisible observer.
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Mar 10 2011, 2:59pm Anchor

This forums really has some productive questions lol.

Niteshade
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Mar 10 2011, 4:21pm Anchor

No one is born evil

yarow12
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Mar 10 2011, 4:56pm Anchor
Niteshade wrote:No one is born evil

No, but some simply aren't fit for society. They're the ones who tend to end up in an asylum.
You wouldn't let your daughter date a sociopath would you? o.O Seriously, would you? O.o

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lancer611
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Mar 14 2011, 12:37pm Anchor

I dont like to think about changing the past... it brings up too many crazy topics like alternative realities and such.  :P

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Mar 14 2011, 4:58pm Anchor
yarow12 wrote:
Niteshade wrote:No one is born evil

No, but some simply aren't fit for society. They're the ones who tend to end up in an asylum.
You wouldn't let your daughter date a sociopath would you? o.O Seriously, would you? O.o


It's true that some aren't fit for society - but who's responsibility is it to make sure that they are (or become) "fit" for our society? You can't put all that on the individual. And fyi: I don't ever want children - especially not a girl who turns into stubborn and bitchy teenager at age 13.

It's the society's fault for not being able to assimilate certain individuals, and it's sometimes (more often than not) the parent's fault that a kid gets a bad uprising
Like I said, no one is born evil.

With that being said, I'm not claiming that everyone is born without a handicap/deficit. Someone who is born with ASPD (antisocial personality disorder) for example - which there is no cure for - will most likely not be able to live what we would "consider" a proper life. But then you will have to think about the whole field of psychiatry and about what was considered "insane" or "uncurable" a 100 years ago that doctors now have a good understanding of. The "evil" behavior of someone with ASPD (aka psychopathy) or NPD (narcissistic personality disorder) is due to neuropsychiatric diversity, i.e. they have a completely different way of trafficking around information in their brains. It's not a case of "organic damage" due to a faulty development of the fetus or anything like that.
Right now there are no good treatments for psychopaths but that doesn't mean that there won't be any.

When the field of psychiatry has developed way beyond what we have today, people will look back at our period of time feeling ashamed that we threw people in jail that could've been cured if we just cared more.

I'm just looking at this from a completely other perspective.

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yarow12
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Mar 14 2011, 5:49pm Anchor
Niteshade wrote:
yarow12 wrote:
Niteshade wrote:No one is born evil

No, but some simply aren't fit for society. They're the ones who tend to end up in an asylum.
You wouldn't let your daughter date a sociopath would you? o.O Seriously, would you? O.o


It's true that some aren't fit for society - but who's responsibility is it to make sure that they are (or become) "fit" for our society? You can't put all that on the individual. And fyi: I don't ever want children - especially not a girl who turns into stubborn and bitchy teenager at age 13.

It's the society's fault for not being able to assimilate certain individuals, and it's sometimes (more often than not) the parent's fault that a kid gets a bad uprising
Like I said, no one is born evil.

With that being said, I'm not claiming that everyone is born without a handicap/deficit. Someone who is born with ASPD (antisocial personality disorder) for example - which there is no cure for - will most likely not be able to live what we would "consider" a proper life. But then you will have to think about the whole field of psychiatry and about what was considered "insane" or "uncurable" a 100 years ago that doctors now have a good understanding of. The "evil" behavior of someone with ASPD (aka psychopathy) or NPD (narcissistic personality disorder) is due to neuropsychiatric diversity, i.e. they have a completely different way of trafficking around information in their brains. It's not a case of "organic damage" due to a faulty development of the fetus or anything like that.
Right now there are no good treatments for psychopaths but that doesn't mean that there won't be any.

When the field of psychiatry has developed way beyond what we have today, people will look back at our period of time feeling ashamed that we threw people in jail that could've been cured if we just cared more.

I'm just looking at this from a completely other perspective.


The responsibility goes right down the line (parents, guardians, relatives, friends, neighbors, townspeople especially if home town, nation itself).
I feel you, but let's not let this topic get off topic.
Agreed. Parents really aren't doing a great job in the U.S. right now. I honestly have no respect for my mother and speak to her any-kinda-way. I'll even scold here about how she's raising her other two children. I wouldn't, however, take kindly to someone else speaking to her the way that I do or even insulting her. Overall, the world's getting really shitty, but let's not get off topic here.
Experiences in the game of L.I.F.E. may differ. Right now, I believe that if people can't be cured of whatever society finds them to have then they should just be given life somewhere else. Like in Killzone, for example, the Helghast went to a distant planet and lived their lives. I haven't played the first one, but it is my understanding that they were your typical "criminals" and were outcasted somewhere, IDK. Some man rose up as a rallier and propaganda speaker and got their pride pumping. Yada yada, they have their own planet now.

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Mar 14 2011, 5:59pm Anchor
yarow12 wrote: Like in Killzone, for example, the Helghast went to a distant planet and lived their lives. I haven't played the first one, but it is my understanding that they were your typical "criminals" and were outcasted somewhere, IDK. Some man rose up as a rallier and propaganda speaker and got their pride pumping. Yada yada, they have their own planet now.

Speaking of being off topic lol....... Besides by the time such advanced space travel and/or planet terraforming is possible, my guess is we'd probably already have the cures for many or all psychiatric disorders :P

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Mar 14 2011, 6:19pm Anchor
lancer611 wrote:
yarow12 wrote: Like in Killzone, for example, the Helghast went to a distant planet and lived their lives. I haven't played the first one, but it is my understanding that they were your typical "criminals" and were outcasted somewhere, IDK. Some man rose up as a rallier and propaganda speaker and got their pride pumping. Yada yada, they have their own planet now.

Speaking of being off topic lol....... Besides by the time such advanced space travel and/or planet terraforming is possible, my guess is we'd probably already have the cures for many or all psychiatric disorders :P


Even then, we'd still have shitty parenting and mentally distressed people. The only true "cure" for all of these things would be controlling the human brain itself, thus forcing it to calculate and act like a proper civilian. Have you ever seen Equilibrium?
Let us not continue this particular conversation for it is off topic.

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Mar 16 2011, 7:45pm Anchor

If you ever get a chance to travel trough time: Don`t ever change the history!
If you go back trough time and kill the Hitler who knows what kind of place this world will be and more important will you continue exist in a new world, will you even be born?
History is something that man cannot change, and if he ever be able to do that. I think that is not wise.

My vote: No!

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Mar 20 2011, 1:22pm Anchor

No germany that time did alot of great inventions.

Cryrid
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Mar 20 2011, 1:58pm Anchor

My basic rule is not to change history prior to about 1995 or so. Anything more recent is fair game.

J*Rod
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Mar 20 2011, 4:27pm Anchor

Ever since I first saw the Baby Hitler threads I immediately thought of this (go to 2:49, after the logo to the end):

Mar 26 2011, 3:45pm Anchor

only chuck noris could go back in time and face baby hitler :D

Mar 26 2011, 7:40pm Anchor

I would definatly kill Baby Hitler, I would stop on him and make him starve to death like they did to babies in those concentration camps

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