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Assaultman67
Assaultman67 Needs a fuckin' title
Oct 28 2010, 6:06pm Anchor
BoricOdin wrote:Why only kill Hitler, why not  every person (and Justin Bieber) who started a war and prevent them from ever happening.

Because its not specific individuals that cause wars. Its a nature of man to cause war ...

Speaking of which, you just killed 100's of people for you and "your people's" own well being ... Isn't that the same kind of justification that leaders use when they start wars?

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Oct 29 2010, 7:31am Anchor

You're right, killing Hitler woudnt solve much, i think that it only woud create new wars..

Edited by: Amneetje

Cryrid
Cryrid 3D Artist
Oct 29 2010, 10:26am Anchor

No distinction between wars and genocide?

Assaultman67
Assaultman67 Needs a fuckin' title
Oct 29 2010, 10:40am Anchor
Cryrid wrote:No distinction between wars and genocide?

Well, Genocide is pretty much one sided war ...

Its all hypothetical anyways ... eliminating war is a unprobablistic scenario.

Just yesterday I went to a navy NUPOC (not really, they sorta crashed our class) and listened to their pitch. I must say that it sounded really enticing even if they're asking you to maintain and manage a nuclear reactor on a sub or aircraft carrier.

Only problem with it really is that you get some pretty extreme stress conditions with that job.

So there you go ... I am considering joining that system of war :/ ...

Edited by: Assaultman67

Oct 29 2010, 11:45am Anchor

Humanity will probably never stop fighting eachother     
its a fact that diplomacy fails in this world..

Assaultman67
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Oct 29 2010, 2:10pm Anchor
BoricOdin wrote:Humanity will probably never stop fighting eachother     
its a fact that diplomacy fails in this world..

I think in a few hundred or so years, if we don't manage to kill ourselves, war should be alot less prevalent or pretty much extinct.

Im simply thinking this because war is generally caused by differences in culture, and differences in culture is caused by lack of communication between two groups of people. However, with the extreme advances in communication in the past 100 or so years such as telephones and the internet.

Right now, the only real communication boundaries that are left are those of translation. Eventually, translation software should accurate enough and fluent enough that even that will no longer exist.

So then you pretty much have an entire world able to communicate with each other ... so who does that leave out in terms of lack of communication? third world countries maybe? more likely no one.

However, Its also possible that warfare will just take on yet a different form, such as corporate warfare ...

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Oct 29 2010, 2:33pm Anchor
Assaultman67 wrote:
BoricOdin wrote:Humanity will probably never stop fighting eachother     
its a fact that diplomacy fails in this world..

I think in a few hundred or so years, if we don't manage to kill ourselves, war should be alot less prevalent or pretty much extinct.

Im simply thinking this because war is generally caused by differences in culture, and differences in culture is caused by lack of communication between two groups of people. However, with the extreme advances in communication in the past 100 or so years such as telephones and the internet.

Right now, the only real communication boundaries that are left are those of translation. Eventually, translation software should accurate enough and fluent enough that even that will no longer exist.

So then you pretty much have an entire world able to communicate with each other ... so who does that leave out in terms of lack of communication? third world countries maybe? more likely no one.

However, Its also possible that warfare will just take on yet a different form, such as corporate warfare ...



Maybe all the country's of the northend hemisphere schould form one country so that the chance of a war taking place between them would be greatly  reduced.

Cryrid
Cryrid 3D Artist
Oct 29 2010, 2:52pm Anchor

That's what civil war is for.

Assaultman67
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Oct 29 2010, 5:28pm Anchor
Cryrid wrote:That's what civil war is for.

Civil war is also a result of not communicating effectively and a difference in culture.

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Oct 29 2010, 5:55pm Anchor
Assaultman67 wrote:
Cryrid wrote:That's what civil war is for.

Civil war is also a result of not communicating effectively and a difference in culture.


Isnt Civil War the hard way to get what you want?

Cryrid
Cryrid 3D Artist
Oct 29 2010, 6:59pm Anchor
Quote:Civil war is also a result of not communicating effectively and a difference in culture.

Sounds fit for the hypothetical situation

Celestial_
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Oct 30 2010, 9:24am Anchor

War is the result of conflicting identities between peoples  and nowadays, what one country wants from another.  War is necessary, the too little the countries, the more wars there will be to gain more power, the larger the country or empire, the more its people will question it.

Squiggers
Squiggers I'm British, you Muppet.
Nov 1 2010, 7:17pm Anchor

There were plenty of others in that time period of Hitler's rise who would have pushed for the same kind of action, and eventually got there.

Simply put, even if Hitler had been killed, or never existed, the same events could easily have happened due to the actions of likeminded people during the 20s-30s.

Nov 1 2010, 10:03pm Anchor
Aperture.inc wrote:The cold war ? We had so much resources that we could take over The world and maybe even destroy the world ! We had nukes long before the WW2 . Nuclear winter anyone ?   And don't let me started on our other firepower.

This is probably to late but America was the first country with nukes. Russia did not have nukes before WW2. No one did. Also nuclear winters have been proven wrong. It is impossible for one to happen. Never mind that. Nuclear winters are still only a predicted outcome. It would take about 50 nuclear bombs to have such an effect, by that time, who ever sent off the nukes first would be attacked by every other country in the world, even if they were just fighting World War II. There is something called allies and during the war the U.S. had a lot of them especially since they helped save France and some other countries. A powerful country can't do whatever they want. Also in the process the U.S.A. and Russia would be almost completely destroyed and would take years to recover to their normal state. And by then it will probably be around 2040ish if this "nuclear war" happened around the time of World War II. Oh, and also both Russia and American have defenses. And to go even further the world was in it's worst state in years. Anybody crazy enough to destroy an almost completely broken world is screwed up. But then again it almost happened. I really don't think another nuclear bomb (for warfare) will be set off for the next 40 years. Although anything can happen.

Assaultman67 wrote:
BoricOdin wrote:Humanity will probably never stop fighting eachother     
its a fact that diplomacy fails in this world..

I think in a few hundred or so years, if we don't manage to kill ourselves, war should be alot less prevalent or pretty much extinct.

Im simply thinking this because war is generally caused by differences in culture, and differences in culture is caused by lack of communication between two groups of people. However, with the extreme advances in communication in the past 100 or so years such as telephones and the internet.

Right now, the only real communication boundaries that are left are those of translation. Eventually, translation software should accurate enough and fluent enough that even that will no longer exist.

So then you pretty much have an entire world able to communicate with each other ... so who does that leave out in terms of lack of communication? third world countries maybe? more likely no one.

However, Its also possible that warfare will just take on yet a different form, such as corporate warfare ...


It's impossible. War will never stop. Even some animals have "war". It's in our nature. I can tell you for sure that 6 million (or is it 7) won't ever agree.  It's natural. A lot of primates and even ants have war, although it's a lot less complex it is still war. Although if we ever find any alien species maybe we can kick their asses instead of each others :D.

Nov 2 2010, 4:17am Anchor

I would wait until Hitler started the genocide, then kill him. In a weird kind of way Hitler's failed attempt at genocide was good for humanity. It made us realize the implications and seriousness of a situation and scale we had never dealt with. Sure there was a lot of innocent people that died at his hand but thanks to them we learnt and never again will that happen. However I think the same lesson could be learnt if you halted the genocide half-way through.

Cryrid
Cryrid 3D Artist
Nov 2 2010, 11:26am Anchor

I don't think it was a failed attempt given the deathtoll, and how his actions helped coin the word.

Nov 2 2010, 1:19pm Anchor

Eh, Quaddles, look up on the breakup of Yugoslavia, that lesson wasn't really learnt sadly.

WatchMaker
WatchMaker Maker of Watches
Nov 2 2010, 2:48pm Anchor

Hitler lived and died doing what he felt was best for the world.  He pursued his dreams with a relentless nature that has left him infamous.  I personally do not agree with the goals he set, but that does not mean I would feel justified in murdering him as a child.  Even Hitler deserved the chance to taste his favorite food, hear his favorite song, and sit in his kamphy chair.

The loss of any life is nothing more than potential wasted.

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Tick Tock

Nov 2 2010, 2:56pm Anchor
Someone wrote:Sure there was a lot of innocent people that died at his hand but thanks to them we learnt and never again will that happen

and how the hell do you know that?
not even a century has passed since then - and yet you seem shure that such thing won't happen again till the end of humanity...

Assaultman67
Assaultman67 Needs a fuckin' title
Nov 2 2010, 4:01pm Anchor
armendvisoka wrote:Eh, Quaddles, look up on the breakup of Yugoslavia, that lesson wasn't really learnt sadly.

Don't forget the incident in Rwanda around '94 ... that shit was particularly vicious ...

They pretty much got coked up and dragged people out into the street and hacked them up with machetes.

The US (as well as other countries) looked the other way pretty much the entire time while that was happening ...

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Nov 18 2010, 9:45am Anchor

One assumption is that paradox does not exist within time travel. That, no matter how hard one tried to change the past, our proven history would somehow stop the change from taking place. After all, our history happened.

Nov 18 2010, 10:15am Anchor

you make it sound like history has own will or something.

The way i see time travel, the moment you appear in the past, you just create another of countless parallel history paths.
going back to the future would be impossible, because in this new path you're now in, the future didn't happen yet.

killing your grandpa or whatever wouldn't screw up anything because you wouldn't be attatched anymore to the old path that required your birth to happen.

Cryrid
Cryrid 3D Artist
Nov 18 2010, 10:35am Anchor
Quote:you make it sound like history has own will or something.

It has a way of mending itself in Star Trek and Futurama   : P

Nov 18 2010, 6:12pm Anchor

No killing needed. I would simply snip one of his rectus inferiori creating a permanent lazy eye and the opposite side of the face's levator labii superioris causing it to slump slighting. No one would take him seriously as a leader after that, problem solved.

Cryrid
Cryrid 3D Artist
Nov 18 2010, 6:17pm Anchor

What if he gets an eye-patch, or some kind of iron mask? That would be pretty badass.

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