Are you serious?! Source was made from the ground up by Valve, Havoc is the physics engine that Valve bought to use for Source, Source uses Havoc, its not based off it.
Source is the Child of Gold Source, Which is the Child Of the Q2 Engine which all kinds of games in the late 90's use. All of those are the child of the Q1 engine.
Also I may be wrong and gold source be it's own branch off from Q1 engine. Either way, they all have close ties and to any modder who has worked with them it's easily evident.
I've ported Q2 maps textures and all to HL2 DM in less than a days work. Most of that was figuring out Q2's texture formats. Even most of the ent's are all the same I didn't even change the lighting and most doors still worked without my editing.
Wrong, Sir Gears Of War uses the UT3Aka Unreal 2008 Engine, This is the same engine, Just because it uses the same engine does not make it a mod of that particlular game. Example: Star wars force unleshed uses havok physics engine, So does halo3, Along with hl2 xbox version. And so fourth
It's not a mod, In no way are they related, They may be produced by unreal team, But they are completely different and in no way draw content/rely on the other to run properly.
So you sir, Are wrong, a mod is not the same engine.
l4d and tf2 (and all those source games for another example)
it is nowhere near a ut2003 mod since it doesn't even use the same engine as ut2003.. So it's BASICALLY and LITERALLY a game, and not a modification of another game that uses the same engine.
Actually, It does use the same engine, But does not rely on the other game to pull content such as models/sprites and the sort, So it can be installed/ played on conosle without needing ut3
There is a huge difference from using a Pyshics Engine and using a game engine over and over again. Anyone with enough skills (indie or comercial...) could make Gears of War with the UDK.
Well technically they use the same unreal engine 3 as most games such as Unreal tornument 3,Infinity Blade,Dungeon Defenders etc...But who cares.GO PLAY GOW2 IT HAS UNREAL 3.5 :)
The only reason people dislike Gears of War is because liking such a game would make them seem like the rest of the gaming population, and in their views the rest of the gaming population is made of idiots. So to impress themselves and others, they choose to dislike the game, despite having only played a small portion of the game, if any at all.
There are a lot better games, but it's certainly not a "shitfest, with wanky controls, stupid battles, and a half baked storyline."
Well, moddable and open console games... it actually would make me buy one of the consoles. ;-) And if the games were easier moddable (and specially designed for this purpose too). ^^
A console for games and sandbox modelling + coding. ^^ Oh rather an unfulfillable dream. = (
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DUH games like God of War!
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DuH game's like GoW / Halowars
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Fool! GoW IS for PC as well and is basically a mod of UT3 so it would be a total and utter fail.
Unless he meant God of War.
Anyhow, HELL YEAH I WOULD.
I think he meant God of War xD
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Its not like a mod of UT3, its one of the best games in its genre.
not just the HL2 Xbox version uses Havoc, the whole Source Engine does on all platforms
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No, it uses Source which is a HEAVILY modified Havok engine
Are you serious?! Source was made from the ground up by Valve, Havoc is the physics engine that Valve bought to use for Source, Source uses Havoc, its not based off it.
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lol, no it isn't! It's based on the Quake world engine
um no half life one used the goldscr like quake
Almost, goldsrc is just based on idtech2, but still a different engine
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I think you may be referring to quake but yeah.
Source is the Child of Gold Source, Which is the Child Of the Q2 Engine which all kinds of games in the late 90's use. All of those are the child of the Q1 engine.
Also I may be wrong and gold source be it's own branch off from Q1 engine. Either way, they all have close ties and to any modder who has worked with them it's easily evident.
I've ported Q2 maps textures and all to HL2 DM in less than a days work. Most of that was figuring out Q2's texture formats. Even most of the ent's are all the same I didn't even change the lighting and most doors still worked without my editing.
wrong. It is based of q1 with bug fixes from q2. they talk about it on the source page.
holy cow! all those downvotes :O
Wrong, Sir Gears Of War uses the UT3Aka Unreal 2008 Engine, This is the same engine, Just because it uses the same engine does not make it a mod of that particlular game. Example: Star wars force unleshed uses havok physics engine, So does halo3, Along with hl2 xbox version. And so fourth
It's not a mod, In no way are they related, They may be produced by unreal team, But they are completely different and in no way draw content/rely on the other to run properly.
So you sir, Are wrong, a mod is not the same engine.
l4d and tf2 (and all those source games for another example)
Umm.. he said BASICALLY a UT 2003 mod, not LITERALLY.
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it is nowhere near a ut2003 mod since it doesn't even use the same engine as ut2003.. So it's BASICALLY and LITERALLY a game, and not a modification of another game that uses the same engine.
Actually, It does use the same engine, But does not rely on the other game to pull content such as models/sprites and the sort, So it can be installed/ played on conosle without needing ut3
u got any examples?
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Thx for actually reading what I typed before responding ;) I give Karma to you.
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''So you sir, Are wrong, a mod is not the same engine.''
Are is meant to be are ;)
gtfo grammar nazi
There is a huge difference from using a Pyshics Engine and using a game engine over and over again. Anyone with enough skills (indie or comercial...) could make Gears of War with the UDK.
Well technically they use the same unreal engine 3 as most games such as Unreal tornument 3,Infinity Blade,Dungeon Defenders etc...But who cares.GO PLAY GOW2 IT HAS UNREAL 3.5 :)
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wow, rage on there buddy, gears of war is a game deserving full respect.
I consider it an average shooter.
Gears deserves nothing. It's a subpar 3rd person shitfest, with wanky controls, stupid battles, and a half baked storyline.
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Some 6 million people disagree.
Some hundred million would agree
The only reason people dislike Gears of War is because liking such a game would make them seem like the rest of the gaming population, and in their views the rest of the gaming population is made of idiots. So to impress themselves and others, they choose to dislike the game, despite having only played a small portion of the game, if any at all.
There are a lot better games, but it's certainly not a "shitfest, with wanky controls, stupid battles, and a half baked storyline."
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Gears of War friggin rocks man.
Has a more realistic combat feel than what COD MW2 has in it.
no it doesent
?? I wont even bother.
dude you are speaking total ****... retard!
However much I dislike COD, I have to say that Gears of War does not have a realistic battle system, then again neither do any fps/tps games.
I like the story, alil, the rest is meh...I liked #1 better than #2, and I just wasn't especially fond of #1...(Gears of War)
You sir... are smart.
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Learn to read.
ok to the guy who said 2003, LOL some people still think that UT3 is Ut2003
Well, moddable and open console games... it actually would make me buy one of the consoles. ;-) And if the games were easier moddable (and specially designed for this purpose too). ^^
A console for games and sandbox modelling + coding. ^^ Oh rather an unfulfillable dream. = (
OMG -81 karma... OMG THAT IS BAD!!!
dont get bad karma its bad mkay
People are still fricking arguing? Geez.
HOLY COW -58 votes??? LOOOL
Console fanboys wish they were PC instead of a dedicated private gaming service.
I totally agree.
And most of my xbox and ps3 friends wanna switch to PC gaming now, because its better. End of story
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the answer: STFU AND ASK WIKIPEDIA!
why can't I just play both? And enjoy both?
Sieg hiel the PC gaming master race.