Favorite USS Specialization (In ver. 1.1) Thread - MISERY mod for S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Call of Pripyat

Which is your favorite USS specialization class (sniper, recon or assaulter?)

Recon
Because is different than Our old hero from regular COP.
Sneaking around and thinking about what you can or cannot put on your back, instead of dumb-kill-everything playstyle.

Assaulter, while slow and unwieldy, is my choice. This because of the following:
High carry weigh: this allows for more food in the inventory, so that you can take longer treks, and additional ammo, and a shotgun in addition to my assault rifle and marksman rifle (all with weight reduction mods)
Slow speed: while this may seem like a con, it makes you think before you act, and keep to cover while traveling, since you can't sprint to safety in a heartbeat. This leads to thinking about every situation you come along, taking time to engage in combat, and using the correct weapon for each encounter.

Sniper:
-Sniping is safe! And funny of course.
-Less money spend on ammo.
-OC-33 is not breaking all the time from often using.
-K-98 and mosin without sights are good for close combat too if it is 1-5 opponents.
-Because of this you can as I wrote save money on ammo and you don't need heavy suits so SEVA is your choice. Happy A-hunting.

Recon:

• Lightweight and quick
• Medical equipment = better effects

Sniper class would be may fav, but there dont seem to be enough sniper rifles in the game for me to really be interested. Also some traders, and virtually all NPCs never carry sniper ammo, like they carry assault rifle ammo

It has to be the Recon specialization. With the right equipment you're as good as a sniper and an assaulter on the battlefield. I like to run my equipment light, with maximum weight reduction upgrades on everything. My usual gear is something like this:

• Wind of Freedom Suit - You can't believe how amazing this piece of armor can be for a recon unit. With the weight reduction upgrade the armor will weighs ONLY 1kg, which is amazingly light and now add the carry weight upgrade which increases it by 10kg. So on the armor you'll get 9 extra kg of stuff you can carry. Only minus would be the bullet stopping power, which is quite low and can get you killed if you're not careful
• Tactical Helmet - The best helmet. Weighs only 2kg (more than the outfit, lolwut?) and has amazing protection, a must have if you're a bit careless and need more protection that usual. 30 bullets extra.
• Winchester - This is my side-arm. Its' lightweight, about 3kg. Carries 9 rounds and is super-effective.
• FN-2000 - It's not really light, it's the heaviest item in my equipment at around 4kg. But it's amazing stopping power, rpm and exceptional accuracy are just beast. 200 bullets extra.
• Sleeping bag
• 2 cans of tuna
• 3 army medkits, 3 anti-rads, 6 bandages
• Everything else that's unstashable

This full equipment will be around 16-18kg, which is quite easy to carry and leaves room for extra 20kg of carry weight.

wow thsi forum is so dead.

Recon:
fast to cover
medical advantage, even tho i barely ever use medkits

also sniper would be my fav if it wasnt so weak and vulnerable. also no good ammo on sniper (is the green draong categorized as sniper?) if so i will use green dragon with sniper.

always use my sunrise fully modded, the cheapest from them all to repair.
tactical helmet fully modded
streloks sg fully modded with silencer and scope OR the aku from the snork stash OR green dragon
desert eagle fully modded with silencer
and im ALWAYS relying on knife at closest combats with mutants
just 1 can of tuna 1 bread loaf
2medkits, 2 bandages
goldfish, 2 fireflies, 2 bubbles, optional 1 gravi.

I love the sniper. I always play at hardest skill level for these types of games, so distance is exactly what I need to take down my opponent before he has the chance to pull a bullet straight through my head!

I would have to say assaulter, simply because, well it's more fun. His weapons are most suited for medium-close range combat, which is the range at which most firefights take place.
Long range (for sniper) is possible outside, but not really fun, as you're not vulnerable to attack and at the same time it's harder to find ammo and kill your enemies. Additionally, most of your enemies in the wild are mutants, and from my experience sniper rifles are a very poor choice to use against mutants.
As for recon, the better use of medical equipment and maintenance of suits is nice, but I rely on not getting hit in the first place, by utilizing cover and actually planning my assault.
Finally, the extra weight I can carry as assaulter really suits my play-style, as I always like to be prepared for everything.

However, this all may change with MISERY 2, since I heard there will be more emphasis on the specializations. Cheers.

Edited by: siftheadz

about 1/3 of votes for each. shows that the balancing works

The balancing doesn't work. After playing with all three classes installed, I was able to play and survive without making a single change to how I did it. AN94, Grenade attachment upgrade, GP-30, NSPU-3, which was acquired very early on in all three playthroughs. The class system shows promise, but the game is balanced against the player, not an arbitrary class system. Which I know, was achieved via weapon configuration.

If you would humor me a suggestion, I would submit that the classes either be taken to an extreme point of playstyle; E.G: Assaulter have nearly an absolute minimum in recoil, control and stabilization, and the other classes take absurdly high penalties for those weapons. Or, give inherent benefits to the player character via starting weapons, more or less health, faster auxillary reloads (Underbarrel grenade launchers), specialized ammunitions for subweapons; WP for sniper, Flechette shotshells and canisters for Assault, far superior armour and medical supply variants, such as hybrid meds that perform multiple tasks at once.

That way, the class system can be used to supplant player skill, or they can min-max against their own abilities.

One thing that really bugs me, just a personal note. The OG-7V rocket ammunition we have for the RPG, is not what is represented by the model and it's actual use. The rocket that is visually represented, and the damage it does is the FG-7-VL. An HEDP rocket. It acts like it should, just has the wrong name.

Oh, and a request. Since it is indeed 2012, and the desperation for arms entering the zone is a top priority for traders, I'm wondering why I'm not seeing more variety. We've got two PDW's, the Scorpion and the Mp5. You'd figure being this close to russia, we'd see more along the lines of the AEK-919, SR-3, PP-19 and other weapons such as the Ingram M-10, Kriss Super-V TAR-21 and the P90. My favorite weapon type gets little love in Misery.

Edited by: YourAmishDaddy

Someone wrote: If you would humor me a suggestion, I would submit that the classes
either be taken to an extreme point of playstyle; E.G: Assaulter have
nearly an absolute minimum in recoil, control and stabilization, and the
other classes take absurdly high penalties for those weapons. Or, give
inherent benefits to the player character via starting weapons, more or
less health, faster auxillary reloads (Underbarrel grenade launchers),
specialized ammunitions for subweapons; WP for sniper, Flechette
shotshells and canisters for Assault, far superior armour and medical
supply variants, such as hybrid meds that perform multiple tasks at
once.

This aspect is already implemented in Misery 2, fully... It also done with much more complexity and personality than what you suggested...

Someone wrote: Oh, and a request. Since it is indeed 2012, and the desperation for arms
entering the zone is a top priority for traders, I'm wondering why I'm
not seeing more variety. We've got two PDW's, the Scorpion and the Mp5.
You'd figure being this close to russia, we'd see more along the lines
of the AEK-919, SR-3, PP-19 and other weapons such as the Ingram M-10,
Kriss Super-V TAR-21 and the P90. My favorite weapon type gets little
love in Misery.

I can't see how civilians could ever gets a hold of most of the weapons you suggested... Especially the AEK, SR and PP-19.. Sure the Spetsnaz uses it but they never appears as anywhere in COP except in the main story... The M-10 and the P90 could possibly be used by Mercs (alas PMCs in disguise), and Freedoms, but the Kriss and the TAR? I don't think you could purchase those weapons easily in Ukraine..

Edited by: mark009vn

I think you could use that logic to dismiss a significant amount of the current weapons in MISERY patch 2. From the M16 to the Famas G2 SE, MISERY contains many weapons that are used by western armies. Could you explain how those wound up in the zone with simultaneously ruling out the weapons you excluded? Remember that the Kriss is purchasable by civilians in 45 of the 50 states in America and Israel actually exports the TAR to the Ukraine so.. actually, it'd make sense if the Assaulter started with one!

Ukraine: Yuriy Lutsenko, head of Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, announced on October 1, 2008 that Israel Weapon Industries and the Ukrainian research and production company RPC Fort will jointly manufacture the Tavor TAR-21 assault rifle, that will enter service with special Ukrainian military and police special units.^[39][40]

Well, it's quite established that the military and scientists do business with the stalkers for artefacts, and information. Whose to say that they don't pay them in firearms as well as food? And since the traders seem to keep a good stock, it's quite easy to assume that they have contacts to some sort of black market, so apprehending exotic weapons would not be impossible. I mean heck, Nimble has access to a Armsel Striker. A now south-africa produced firearm. And Rhodesia isn't next-door to ukrane either. Closest possible importer would be Israel. So, a black market must exist.

I'm not demanding them, I'm just saying the logic against them being a possibility is a bit sketchy.

I have played recon and sniper and I have to say I prefer the Sniper class. The medical advantage of Recon is not much considering I never use medkits. I just play as a sniper with the Green Dragon and P99 with Seva suit. The P99 is for mutants and the Sniper is for bandits, especially after I get the +25% rate of fire. Oh and I modded the scope to fill the entire screen instead of the previous claustrophobic fov.

I've only tried the Assaulter so far, though next time I'll probably opt for the sniper class. The assaulter likes to eat!

I've played all three, and while I like recon and sniper, I just can't do it with assault. Way too much food intake required, and I can't cheap out and eat Zone food because the radiation damage is extreme. Compounding this, high sleep requirement also requires more food, since you have to eat breakfast. The damage resistance bonus barely means anything considering the master difficulty. You're in the line of fire probably most of any classes, yet health-related bonuses are the least (medkits, drugs). Nothing really helps you fight mutants, at least early on, and you're not quick enough to run from them like recon is.

By contrast, recon:
My LM-300 (AR-15-alike) can do everything an AR-class weapon can, including single-shot, burst mode, and underslung grenades. I'm almost never seen; if I am, I can relocate and they don't know where I am now. Mid-range is not a problem at all, though I do prefer to engage closer around terrain I can use to my advantage. My P220's burst fire works great against muties and humans alike, and I'm highly proficient with it. What am I losing out on compared to assault? Higher carry weight? Negligible! Energy drinks, caffeine pills, hard drugs. Boom.

I mentioned running earlier; I managed to escape the (spoiler) incredibly huge horde of boars and fleshes that descend upon Stingray-1 with the help of epinephrine. I don't see how any class could have fought their way out of that situation.

Recon is actually my favorite. I completely destroyed the zaton mercenary camp across the river, and was only shot at twice, both times by only one enemy. I couldn't complete an even semi-stealthy assault under the other classes, since their grenades would tear me apart if I could evade the bullets.

Edited by: cardgame

Recon. Because i love carabines and to be light and nimble.As said above nothing can beat ZM-LR300/AR-15 aside with Alpine/Deagle.

Edited by: megashooter

Tried all fo them, and so far I find the recon the most awesome class to play with because of how dificult it is. Both Sniper and assaulter are well balanced for all types of combat with a huge array of weapons to chose for diferent ranges, and balanced perks.
However, this isnt the case for the recon. There are only a few weapons for the recon that can have a scope attached for long range encounters, and if we rule out the 9X32 "hope i got that right" due to its slow bullet speed and ridiculous bullet drop, then theres even less weapons that can have a scope attached. Having high profency with pistols isnt much of an advantage neither since most players dont even use them.

As for perks, they arent really that great neither imo. Fast tapping?? Good for those that use a pistol, but how many use them?? Mobile aiming is pretty good agaisnt mutants, but not very reliable against NPCs. Precise blade sounds pretty awesome, but whos stupid enough to knife an armored NPC?? His drug and medicine skills are the best, but considering how little damage he can handle he sure needs this just to carry on from a couple of bullets in the legs. Strong immune system is kinda cancelled by the fact that most artifacts are extremely heavy, and Recon cant handle heavy things very well.

The only good things about recon is the fall resistance, speed and mostly his stealth habilities. Its very fun to close in to a group of bandits and mercs by crouch walking from bush to bush, and finally taking pop shots with a silenced SMG/Carbine in their heads and cheast. Alsow, Recon plus Ghillie Suit, equals ninja. Even more if you decide to do some night hunting.

xXxJuggerNopexXx wrote: Having high profency with pistols isnt much of an advantage neither since most players dont even use them.

Fast tapping?? Good for those that use a pistol, but how many use them??

I use pistols with both Recon and Assaulter. A high end pistol that fires .357 or .45 is pretty mean at close quarters. They're light and burer's can't snatch them out of your hands.

Nice, I actually didnt knew that Burers couldnt snatch them. Guess thats a pretty good advantage for using pistols, even tough its very circunstancional. I think that pistols would have more meaning in the game if the secondary slot was dedicated for pistols only. Carrying 2 primaries seems to much of an easy way thing.

Yeah,it would be nice if the next version of Misery had restricted the second weapon slot to only pistols like SoC. Right now I don't see too much reason to use pistols.

Assaulter! Give me an Exo suit and a big Assault rifle with lots of ammo and I'm ready to go killing Chimeras and Monolith Squads without breaking a sweat.

I'm trying to be Hunter from Metro 2033 as much as possible. He's badass!