In an alternative twist of history. Germany was not defeated in WW2. The world has changed. See description for more info, and backstory.

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rkraptor70
rkraptor70

Niiiice, this one looks really good.

That being said, why there isn't any Nebelwerfer or sFH 18 systems?

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Kalga Creator
Kalga

In game reason: last thing we want is to give the ability for the player to camp out at his base playing the German faction. I believe that we plan for either the Chinese or the PAC faction to be more of a turtle faction.

Lore reason: Interservice rivalry led to the underdevelopment of static artillery. (because if the Luftwaffe can take care of the role of the "flying artillery" then why bother with old fashion static artillery? Or so the line of thinking goes...)

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rkraptor70
rkraptor70

The Lore doesn't really make sense. One thing German military are/were extremely proud about is their field artillery's. Hitler himself had a knack for giant guns, hence the reson giants like the Dora and Gustav was built. He would never allow this to happen.

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Kalga Creator
Kalga

Well... first thing, Hitler & the Nazis are nothing more than a rightwing fringe party in this timeline (though some of their rank and file troopers did have their uses...). Secondly, each of the branches of the Wehrmacht was specialized/deficient in some aspect to ensure their loyalty/make them easier to control/force them to corporate/make them ****** off at one another...

In a sense you're are right. It doesn't make any sense at all, given the [effectively] limitless production capability of the military industrial complex.

Now the question is: when would the characters themselves figure out?

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Kalga Creator
Kalga

Another thing, the Heer still has a lot of artillery... just that most of them won't be in in-game units (possible general powers and such).

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Reborn:X
Reborn:X

How about an original German name now?

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InsurgentCeLL Author
InsurgentCeLL

We skimped out on an original german name here for comical reasons.

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Kalga Creator
Kalga

Also no one on the team speak a lick of German...

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rkraptor70
rkraptor70

Agreed. They should be called Panzerturm.

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Reborn:X
Reborn:X

I thought Panzerturms were immobile damaged tanks turned into static turrets due to defense needs or because of lack of material not specially built defensive emplacements.

Standard taktischen Verteidigung would be the quite literal translation of that name into German language and it does still sound kind of... unfitting. Sounds like a name for a modern US battle machine.

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rkraptor70
rkraptor70

Nope. The original Panzerturm were the reinforced MG emplacement used in the Siegfried Line. Built in 1938. ( Upload.wikimedia.org )

The one you're speaking about are akin to Pantherturm I (Stahluntersatz) which were Panther turrets mounted on a welded steel base in which the ammunition was stored. This base was in turn bolted on to the top of a steel box which housed the crew living quarters, stove and electric generator equipment. Although some normal Pz.Kpfw.Panther turrets had been used for these fixed fortifications on the Hitler Line south of Cassino, the majority, such as this one on the Gothic Line, were specially designed and produced for this purpose. The roof armour was increased to 40mm to withstand direct hits from 150mm artillery shells, and the cupola was replaced by a flat hatch with a rotating periscope.

Pantherturm I: Media.moddb.com

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Reborn:X
Reborn:X

Alright.

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Thelord444
Thelord444

Question, What's the tactic for Germany? Hit and run? Turtle? Steamroll?

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jfpoliveira12
jfpoliveira12

I would go with steamroll, its more fitting for the lore they gave it, tireless death machines and all that.

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ThePaladin
ThePaladin

guys please don't call it std... it sounds catchy... if you know what I mean :D

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Standard Tactical Defense (STD) Emplacement: In modern times almost all of the Wehrmacht’s defenses for forward field bases rely on these simply emplacements. While the basic emplacement appears to be little more than a reinforced concrete foundation, underneath the structure lies a 4.5 generation MPK assisted computer, which can be connected to various different weapon systems. This system allows for the rapid construction and deployment of a variety of defenses for complete defense against modern combine arms tactics.
–Anti-infantry turret mount: Armed with two MG42 7.9mm machineguns, the Anti-infantry turret can shred mass concentrations of infantry in a matter of minutes. However, the weapon is near useless against most armored vehicles and cannot target aircraft effectively due to its light frame and mounting, as well as the lack of advance guidance systems.
– 8.8cm Anti-vehicle/anti-air turret mount: composed of an update of the fabled 8.8cm FlaK cannon fitted with autoloader and advance range finding equipment, the Anti-vehicle/anti-air turret can dispatch most vehicles and aircrafts with ease. Be advised, due to the nature of the autoloader and the types of ammunition involved, the turret cannot engage both aircraft and ground targets at the same setting. Switching between anti-air/anti-ground settings takes approximately five seconds, during which the turret cannot fire at any targets.
-12.8cm Anti-vehicle/anti-air turret mount: Similar to the 8.8cm FlaK turret, with the main difference in the mounting of a modernized 12.8 cm FlaK 40. The 12.8 cm FlaK 40 can destroy the heaviest bombers and tanks with ease. The 12.8cm FlaK 40 turret has the same disadvantage as its lighter counterpart, mainly the amount of time (seven seconds) it takes to switch between anti-air/anti-ground roles.
Model and skin by CoLT

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