This mod is for all the players frustrated with the cartoony nature of Zero Hour units and buildings. We intend to replace every fanciful unit in Zero Hour with its closest possible real world equivalent, without changing the unit's capabilities.

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OrangeNero
OrangeNero Dec 5 2012, 5:48pm says:

Your Paladin tank replacement needs a laser against missiles. Very nice Leopard 2 model though I am undecided if I like it in the role of the Paladin.

How will that work out changing USA into Nato with so few units available to change out?

A funky idea, use smoke charges instead of laser to disable missiles... anyway you guys will find something I am sure of that :)

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Keksz
Keksz Dec 5 2012, 5:57pm replied:

I know what you mean but do you have any better idea what would suit the Paladin role? Mhhh...I don't.

Also I think that automatic gun turret there will act as a laser defense. Propably the only way. Doctorheredoctor can explain it better.

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smalldjck
smalldjck Dec 5 2012, 7:24pm buried:

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Sheridan tank

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TyXo
TyXo Dec 5 2012, 7:47pm replied:

too weak to be the paladin. Awesome Leo ;D

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excel0
excel0 Jan 2 2013, 9:13am buried:

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I guess you really do have a small djck. :p

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confuse
confuse Dec 5 2012, 8:47pm replied:

replace the laser with something like Shtora-1 in T-90?

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BossGeneral
BossGeneral Dec 6 2012, 1:58pm replied:

No. This is a Visual Reality modification. Shtora-1 is strictly Russian based technology and wouldn't make any sense on a Leopard 2A7+.

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Trooper425
Trooper425 Dec 5 2012, 9:27pm replied:

Make the Paladin replacement a Merkeva with the Trophy defense system.

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MAVERICKFACTOR
MAVERICKFACTOR Dec 5 2012, 9:39pm buried:

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How abt Abrams with some defense system

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DEathgod65
DEathgod65 Dec 6 2012, 2:58am replied:

Just give the Leopard the Trophy system then!

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Overlord_Yuri
Overlord_Yuri Dec 6 2012, 6:36am replied:

Agreed. NATO importing tech from Israel isn't exactly off-the-wall crazy.

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Scorch17
Scorch17 Dec 6 2012, 5:39am replied:

I always thought that the vanilla Paladin is a more advanced version of the M1 Abrams (it even looks like Abrams), and the Crusader is something based on old versions of Leopard . So it would be logical to replace old Crusader with Leopard 2A7 and the Palladin with M1A2 TUSK.

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rkraptor70
rkraptor70 Dec 6 2012, 8:10am replied:

Go home Abrams fan. Leopard 2A7 will screw over M1A2 any day.

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BossGeneral
BossGeneral Dec 6 2012, 1:57pm replied:

Abrams is already dated and somewhat obsolete. It requires close co-operation between branches to be effective and in the absence of non-export models it shines. However if it was to encounter a non-monkey/export model such as the T-80U/T-90A or other modernized T series it would be less effective and vulnerable.

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BossGeneral
BossGeneral Dec 6 2012, 5:23pm replied:

Small grammatical issue:

"Abrams is already dated and somewhat obsolete. It requires close co-operation between branches to be effective and in the absence of domestic(not-for-export) models it shines against export/monkey models such as that of the T-72M/M1 primarily due to tactics and co-operation between branches of the military and also due to other factors if the case of both Persian Gulf Wars is used. However if it was to encounter a non-monkey/export model such as the T-80U/T-90A or other modernized T series it would be less effective and vulnerable. You can look at the various tests and penetration data conducted with the M829 ammunition post-Soviet Union on former Warsaw Pact equipment/tanks.

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BossGeneral
BossGeneral Dec 6 2012, 5:31pm replied:

Jane's International Defence Review 7/1997, pg. 15:

"IMPENETRABLE RUSSIAN TANK ARMOUR STANDS UP TO EXAMINATION

"Claims that the armour of Russian tanks is effectively impenetrable, made on the basis of test carried out in Germany (see IDR 7/1996, p.15), have been supported by comments made following tests in the US.

"Speaking at a conference on Future Armoured Warfare in London in May, IDR's Pentagon correspondent Leland Ness explained that US tests involved firing trials of Russian-built T-72 tanks fitted with Kontakt-5 explosive reactive armour (ERA). In contrast to the original, or 'light', type of ERA which is effective only against shaped charge jets, the 'heavy' Kontakt-5 ERA is also effective against the long-rod penetrators of APFSDS tank gun projectiles.

"When fitted to T-72 tanks, the 'heavy' ERA made them immune to the DU penetrators of M829 APFSDS, fired by the 120 mm guns of the US M1 Abrams tanks, which are among the most formidable of current tank gun projectiles.

"Richard M. Ogorkiewicz"

Fofanov.armor.kiev.ua

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Keksz
Keksz Dec 7 2012, 7:48am replied:

sweet info!

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Col._Sandfurz
Col._Sandfurz Dec 11 2012, 3:07pm replied:

Yeah, you are right that the myth of the 'godlike' Abrams and the 'useless' Soviet made T-72 is crap bc the Iraqis only used the downgraded export modell and an old APFSDS round.
But nevertheless your post is outdated. As Kontakt-5 was inpenetrable by the M829 APFSDS in 1996, the US immediately developed the M829A2 as a response to those tests. It's main purpose was to defeat tanks with Kontakt-5 ERA. Not to mention that the US now uses the even more advanced and destructive M829A3.
Same with the DM53/63 APFSDS round the Germans (and all the other Leopard 2 user) use now..
And not to mention that K-5 ERA only protects a very very small area of the tank..

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wolfrayne1
wolfrayne1 Feb 8 2013, 7:06pm replied:

no it wouldnt because the m1a2 abrams has engaged t-90 heavy armor during international war games and the abrams always came out on top the key is not the vehicle itself but the crew and american crews are 10x better trained in armored conflict than any other nation to date. now is the abrams getting old yes it is, is it still effective hell yes.

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wolfrayne1
wolfrayne1 Feb 8 2013, 6:58pm replied:

maybe but the new upgrade to the m1a3 will make the main gun even more powerfull from a 120mm to a 145mm main gun

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L1K3A8O5S
L1K3A8O5S Mar 28 2013, 10:01pm replied: Online

**** the comment system on this site sucks.

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dhd
dhd Dec 6 2012, 4:03pm replied:

He's actually correct in stating that the Crusader is "based off" of the Leopard 1. It's even called AVLeopard in the game files. Either way, the role of MBT for U.S.A. must clearly be occupied by Abrams M1A2.

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excel0
excel0 Jan 2 2013, 9:19am replied:

actually there is something like this but isn't a turret but still fires projectiles. I saw it in CODMW2 on their amphibious vehicle things. It fires spread bullets like a shotgun and it would fire whenever it detects a missile in close proximity. Don't know how you can implement it on the vehicle though. :\

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onikenshin
onikenshin May 16 2013, 1:32am replied:

The actual Paladin artillery gun...

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Alekseipz
Alekseipz Jan 6 2014, 9:29am replied:

Why not replace the crusader with M60s, they aren't gone yet(in reserve).
And if it's really NATO, the M60 would fit in even better.
the Abrams would suit the Paladin role well, even better with TUSK 2 upgrades.

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dhd
dhd Dec 9 2012, 12:13pm replied:

>How will that work out changing USA into Nato with so few units available to change out?

The Paladin is probably the only unit that has to be non-US. All other unit roles can be filled satisfactorily.

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wolfrayne1
wolfrayne1 Feb 8 2013, 7:00pm replied:

the paladin is a us vehicle except it is an SPA piece that fires the Excalibur smart munition/bunker buster

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dhd
dhd Dec 5 2012, 6:41pm says:

Holy frijoles!

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roman9441
roman9441 Dec 5 2012, 7:58pm says: Online

Awesome now we can spam leopard and make them run around,nice one

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rkraptor70
rkraptor70 Dec 6 2012, 1:03am says:

Make the Paladin replacement a Merkeva with the Trophy defense system.

*Facepalm*

Why the hell we didn't thought abut it? It was a better option in every thinkable way!

At this rate I'll sure to lose my job :(

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dhd
dhd Dec 6 2012, 5:23am replied:

Haha, Israel? Nah. No official military alliance à la NATO.

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rkraptor70
rkraptor70 Dec 6 2012, 8:09am replied:

No but it's a natural for Israel to fight with US to eliminate a Mid-east faction that can be potential threat to them (Most early battle dose takes place in Mid-east). And US dose used Israeli hardware before.

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BossGeneral
BossGeneral Dec 6 2012, 1:48pm replied:

De-Facto Military alliance with NATO. Israel and NATO and the US exist in a De-Facto military alliance status since 2005. If you also closely look at the integration of Israeli and NATO air-defense that also gives another insight as to their close integration and co-operation.

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BossGeneral
BossGeneral Dec 6 2012, 1:55pm replied:

I wouldn't suggest or recommend using the Merkava IV with the Trophy APS as the Paladin tank.

A more appropriate replacement is the 2A7+ or a Leopard 2 140mm or a Leclerc AMX-56 140mm.

Militaryphotos.net

Militaryphotos.net

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GARYOSAVAN
GARYOSAVAN Dec 6 2012, 2:27am says:

Awesome work keep going.

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GeneralAlex
GeneralAlex Dec 6 2012, 8:38am says:

Realy good model!

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☦BalkanB☢y☦
☦BalkanB☢y☦ Dec 6 2012, 10:40am says:

IDK if possible, but how about you mount the ADS Gesellschaft on Leo? It is APS and its German too

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BossGeneral
BossGeneral Dec 6 2012, 2:04pm says:

Very nice texture and model. It does fit well as a Paladin tank replacement although a Leclerc AMX-56 with a 140mm would also be a good candidate.

For the weathering/dirt effect Keksz do you have any tips or tricks how do you achieve it. Is it through a texture or a low size saturation brush ?

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Keksz
Keksz Dec 6 2012, 2:17pm replied:

Thanks! The weathering effect is mostly just a sprinkle brush used in combination with a wacom tablet for good control over it.
Then I repeat the effect with various colors and diffrent layer styles and thats basically it :D

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BossGeneral
BossGeneral Dec 6 2012, 5:54pm replied:

Just out of curiosity Keksz which Wacom tablet are you using. I was looking at getting a Bamboo tablet but I am not sure out of their two product lines which one to get.

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Keksz
Keksz Dec 7 2012, 7:50am replied:

I have a "wacom bamboo pen". It's the most basic tablet you can get. It#s maybe not big and good enough for digital paintings but it is good enough for textures and photo corrections/editing.

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t95blackeagle
t95blackeagle Dec 6 2012, 3:09pm says:

awsome :D

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foxslider
foxslider Dec 10 2012, 11:23am says:

and next is the M1A2!! :D

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dhd
dhd Dec 10 2012, 3:36pm replied:

Already finished quite a while ago

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dhd
dhd Dec 10 2012, 7:28pm replied:

You can even see it in the mod banner.

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Frosty_Guy
Frosty_Guy Dec 20 2012, 9:30am says:

If USA Isnt USA Anymore, Replace Paliden With LAV, And M1 With Lerpoard. Since NATO Doesent Use United States Tanks, THey Perfer They're Own European Made Products.

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Briaya
Briaya Jan 23 2013, 6:47pm replied:

...USA is part of NATO. The idea I'm sure to is to combine a bit of each nation in, yeah?

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smalldjck
smalldjck Jan 28 2013, 9:11pm replied:

USA practically started NATO for the cold war. very few European nations have an army as large and as well trained as ares

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TheFeliX
TheFeliX Dec 20 2012, 4:43pm says:

Hah I´am german and this model is really amazing, but the LEO in real seems better. This moments reminds me how good our country is :P. Best thing in the game ^^ Sounds a bit too patriotism for a german...

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wolfrayne1
wolfrayne1 Feb 11 2013, 4:46pm replied:

nothing is wrong with being a patriot for your country so long as you dont go bashing other ppls countries

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Paladin Tank replacement.
For all who are wondering. USA is not USA anymore but NATO thats why we have a german tank here.

(Note: Model and texture not in final state)

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