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2 comments by Perun58 on Oct 31st, 2013

always hear about massive Soviet casualties at least 2 times bigger then their German opponents, so I decided to write this.

First and most importantly - German army was considered to be undefeatable until they met Soviets and it was greatest army of it's time.

And now, numbers.

According to post-Soviet archival work of G. I. Krivosheev in Soviet Casualties and Combat Losses number of men who died fighting for: 

USSR: 11,285,057.

Germany: 6,231,700.

Now it seems that Soviets really had 2 times bigger losses and that's the problem, because this is exactly the reason why people say that Soviets had 2 time bigger casualties ... well let's continue

Germany and it's occupied terriories: 6,923,700

Germany + occupied territories + satelate states (whole axis power that fought on Eastern front) : 8,649,500.

That means  11,285,057 against 8,649,500. 

Result is losses ratio 1.3 to 1.0 in Axis favour...

Is it really so bad for nation that had to build it's army under attack?

Germans executed 3.5 millions of Soviet prisoners, but Soviets "only" 300 000 German soldiers.

So if you exclude casualties of POWs and count only soldiers who died in the battle you'll get

SSSR: 7 785 057 AXIS: 8 348 500

With total ratio 
1,00 : 1,07 in SOVIET favour. 

Never forget to consider that eastern front was not only war Germany vs SSSR. There were also Hungarians, Italians, Romanians, Croatians and many others... their casualties should not be counted?

Also don't forget to consider that 3.5 million of 11 million soldiers were prisoners executed by Germans... on the other hand majority of German POWs (about 70%) inprisoned in SSSR returned home. So were Germans better warriors because they killed more POWs?

Doesn't matter how you count it but number of soviet casualties to german casualties will be always NEAR TO 1:1.

So please, don't make fun of country that have suffered biggest casualties (11 million soldiers and 14 millions civilians) fought against 80% of German forces and saved Europe from nazism.

Soviet army was very powerful and it's soldiers were brave and very good warriors. Don't let antisoviet myths to fool your mind.

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Turkish007 Jul 30 2013, 6:55am says:

PR 1.0 is coming out this Friday! :D

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Perun58 Jul 30 2013, 8:15am replied:

Yay! Great! Thanks for info!

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GypsyBastard Jun 15 2013, 5:10pm says:

Kámo podle tvých komentářů v "Athejistickým" kroužku kde tvůje komentéře co se týče víry v ježížka na kříží jen stěží mohli vynechat "cigány". Můžu hádat že jsi další příznivec tajnýho spolku anonymních neo homosexuálů ???

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CommanderDef Jun 16 2013, 7:31pm replied:

Státní občanství z tebe nedělá příslušníka národa.

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Perun58 Jun 16 2013, 7:13pm replied:

Homosexualy silne nepodporuji a nezvpominam si ze bych o "ciganech" neco psal, jedine co jsem napsal bylo ze se oficialne se hlasi vice lidi k nabozenstvi jedi, nez k romske narodnosti. Pokud narazis na mapu ČR.

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D3ads Apr 29 2013, 6:42pm says:

Hey man, did you get my reply to your pm?

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Perun58 May 3 2013, 11:56am replied:

Yes I forgot to answer... thank you very much =).

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Perun58 Mar 18 2013, 10:16am replied:

We don't have any mental tests right now, but we will in the future. Automatic guns are prohibited. However you can get exception because of work (bodyguard for example), if you're collector (in that case you can have automatic gun, but you can never hold it loaded), or if you're an inventor of guns or ammunition. We can't own silencers for some reason (really don't know why, it's good solution for open shooting rages, that are bothering people with it's loud sound). To get gun license I had to learn about 480 questions including "What should policeman do, it shooting range is threating life of health of another people." and other questions that have nothing to do with my class of gun license :D. Then I had to get confirmation from doctor that I am able to use gun. After that I am able to get gun. Every gun has it's own license. I am planning to get license for SVT-40 or Mosin-Nagant M91/30 I am not sure right now.
Gun license contains:
Name of the gun
Type of the gun
Weapon class
and so on.
Then it needs to be confirmed and everything is done.

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InsanityPays Apr 9 2013, 3:56pm replied:

I want to move to your country- The US has such crappy and ineffective gun laws, and no one here seems to understand that it's mental health that's causing these problems, not guns. argghhhhh

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Perun58 Apr 12 2013, 9:32am replied:

I was envy you about gun laws just few months ago. Possibility to get automatic guns and so on.. but after problems you had recently I believe that your new laws won't be so good :(.
But you're right - problem is in mentality.

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