Overgrowth takes place in the savage world of Lugaru where rabbits, wolves and other animals are forced to use paws, claws and medieval weaponry to engage each other in battle. Combining 3rd person adventure platforming with intricate melee combat, Overgrowth achieves a unique feel. Overgrowth also benefits from Wolfire's brand new Phoenix Engine which has been built from the ground up to allow the use of cutting edge graphics, animation, and physics. Add to these exciting features Overgrowth’s realistic artificial intelligence and streamlined control system and the result is an astoundingly immersive experience.

Report article RSS Feed Why ninja rabbits?

This is the number one question we get, so we thought we'd answer once and for all.

Posted by jeffr on May 18th, 2009

John reports that "Why did you pick ninja rabbits?" is one of the most commonly asked questions from interviewers and fans on our live chat. For Lugaru, the answer is simple -- back in high school, I thought it would be fun to make a game about my dog Wolfie. This idea evolved into a game about wolves fighting rabbits. A more interesting question is: "Why did you keep the idea of ninja rabbits in Overgrowth?"

Blacksmith

Unique setting

Most games featuring melee combat take place in an anime-inspired world of ninjas and robots, or a dungeons-and-dragons-inspired world of barbarians and wizards. It would be very difficult to make another game in these worlds that would explore new territory and provide a new experience. Our setting of animal warriors and ancient monoliths really helps us stand out from other fighting games -- and can make gamers stop and check us out when they first see movies and pictures of rabbit ninjas doing crazy acrobatics.

Another advantage of this setting is that it allows us to avoid showing violence against humans, while using human-like martial arts. If we want to make a very violent game without trivializing human violence, using non-human characters is a good first step.

Blacksmith

Distinct character classes

Using animal warriors allows us to tap into our knowledge of real-world animals to create distinct character classes. We all know that rabbits jump high and wolves have big teeth. We can use this basic knowledge to establish complex relationships between the different species' abilities in a way that is intuitive to players. Whenever we have a setting with clear rules, we can reverse them to create interesting exceptions, such as a courageous rabbit who fights back against bigger and fiercer creatures.

Blacksmith

Technological feasibility

It is a lot more feasible for us to render animal characters than to render human characters, since we can sidestep the uncanny valley. We spend a lot of time looking at other humans in our day to day life, so we can easily spot tiny errors in a computer-generated human face. However, we spend very little time looking at anthropomorphic animals. This gives us a much larger margin of error to work with before the characters start to look 'wrong'.

Animals also have physical differences that are easier to convey quickly to players from a distance. The different species all have different sizes and silhouettes, and different characters within each species have different fur colors and patterns. This is very useful in a third-person fighting game, because enemy characters are often very small on the screen, and would be hard to identify with more subtle distinctions.

Is it the right decision?

The big game companies tend to stick with tried-and-true characters like gangsters, space marines, world war two soldiers, ninjas, and barbarian heroes. These characters have proven very popular in the past, so they are re-used over and over. Maybe this is just inertia, or maybe those are really the only reasonable choices. What do you think? Should we keep using animal characters in Overgrowth, or switch to something else?
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Lt.SnoWolf
Lt.SnoWolf May 18 2009, 5:38pm says:

Animals needs more Frogs tho

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PierreOfTheFrench
PierreOfTheFrench May 18 2009, 5:58pm says:

I think they look awesome, keep it as is. This games going to rock.

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awesomepossum
awesomepossum May 18 2009, 6:03pm says:

rabbits ftw!

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BRKNnode
BRKNnode May 18 2009, 6:05pm says:

Love animals.. my only request is to see more wolves... and maybe a preliminary skin for rabbot

and a wolfbot(?)

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Sketch23
Sketch23 May 18 2009, 6:27pm says:

otters and badgers! can imagine a badger being a great brawler!

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chris_sloany
chris_sloany May 18 2009, 6:36pm says:

i did always wonder.... cool!

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MacAttack412
MacAttack412 May 18 2009, 6:38pm says:

Definitely stick with animals. So much cooler than people.

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Rhinoshock
Rhinoshock May 18 2009, 6:40pm says:

The real question is: Why not?

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Otreum
Otreum May 18 2009, 7:44pm replied:

That's what I reckon :D

Rabbits are also known for their speed and agility, so they are pretty suitable for the role.

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Insipidus7
Insipidus7 May 18 2009, 7:05pm says:

I really like this idea here. The concept art is awesome, and if the game portrays this, I think it will really go far. The only thing I would recommend is to not include any green reptiles with shells on their backs :/ Still, really interesting idea. Definitely tracking.

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Samuk
Samuk May 18 2009, 7:27pm says:

Panda or turtle, they could look awesome !

Keep the animals, but you might want to explore what a human would be like in overgrowths world. Seeing as the animals have evolved tons, it'd be interesting what a human has evolved into.

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calmflow
calmflow May 19 2009, 4:23pm replied:

Maybe Humans just didn't evolve at all, that's why the animals have become bipedal, no Humans hunting them so natural selection brought about larger, more advanced upright creatures.

Maybe these are Human precursors?

Keep the Animals guys, more fun that way, more feasible with the acrobatics, when was the last time you saw a Human that could jump 3 times its' own height? (that wasn't anime, mutant or space marine in a special suit)

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Ryswick17
Ryswick17 May 18 2009, 8:44pm buried:

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i would like humans acctualy.

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Atlasfield
Atlasfield May 18 2009, 8:49pm says:

Jackalopes rulz! Deers rulz! Bambi rulz! XD

I like the concept art, what envy, I wish draw like this, who is the artist? I wish learn more about it, contact me please... ja,ja, I cannot imagine what others animals you will add, I want this game run by play with the rabbits again.

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Assaultman67
Assaultman67 May 18 2009, 10:14pm says:

oh you are soo tracked ... ^^

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INtense!
INtense! May 19 2009, 12:11am says:

ok i've been waiting for a post that convinces me to pre-order this game (I was always planning on buying it) and well this pushed me over the edge. You finally managed to get the "cute lil bunnies" stereotype out of my head. BROUGHT.

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Otreum
Otreum May 19 2009, 12:55am replied:

Bahahah, yep, it's getting my mulah as well :)
You know what this reminds me of?
Jazz Jackrabbit...oh what a classic :D

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jeffr
jeffr May 19 2009, 1:07am replied:

Thanks!!

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doublethink
doublethink May 19 2009, 4:37am says:

Don't sacrifice your art direction or compromise your vision.

Doubt is the path to failure.

This game will speak for itself even if you had pink elephants fighting giant cockroaches.

Actually, that would be kind of cool... but you get the idea C:

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FullMetalFox
FullMetalFox May 19 2009, 5:12am says:

Im very interessted in this game, but i still would like to know if youll include stuff like foxes or steampunk.. yeah, sry, im a total fox fanatic, i just love those animals. hmm, most people say foxes would be smart, maybe they would mix up with steampunk X)

Anyway, keep up the great work, ill contiue to watch!
Cheers

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SinKing
SinKing May 19 2009, 8:30am says:

Yeh, humans recognise thing by shape (animals too, btw), so we'll probably never think: this is a rabbit. But we'll think this is a human with a rabbit head. It's convenient nothing besides birds and us walks on two legs.
I think it would be funny, if he would just slip out of the "suit" in the end and be a full man. Also this could be a curse brought upon him from an evil witch. You have excellent possibilities to create a brutally new fairy tale, there. And if you weren't already in full production, I'd say I write you a kick-*** story to it.

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Eagle0600
Eagle0600 Sep 10 2009, 7:33am replied:

The whole "curse" idea isn't really feasible unless it's a REALLY old curse put on all humans everywhere. The reason is simple. ALL characters are anthropomorphic animals and have been for at least a generation.

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Shoelip
Shoelip May 19 2009, 8:33am says:

I remember going "WTF" The first time I saw Lugaru, but then I took a look at a few more screenshots and though it looked cool, and tried it out, and my suspicions were confirmed. You'll definitely lose some customers due to the unorthodox characters, but you likely lost quite a few of those already for being small indie developers, so it doesn't matter!

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Torabi
Torabi May 19 2009, 10:29am says:

Well this post certainly clears up a lot for me, never been a fan of the whole rabbit thing, but now that you put it this way it looks quite good. Keep going!

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FlySpyGuy
FlySpyGuy May 19 2009, 10:40am says:

Giant bananas should be introduced.

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Carcass26
Carcass26 May 19 2009, 10:55am says:

Personally, I don't see why you should have to justify the decision, but I'm glad you have shared a bit more of your vision with us.

It is refreshing to have a team capable of critically evaluating the importance of their decisions, as well as demonstrate a broad understanding of how certain design aspects can effect even the fundamental features of their project.

With each update you release I have a growing confidence of the abilities of your team, and the success that you are sure to achieve.

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masternave
masternave May 19 2009, 11:47am says:

Animals. It's like Redwall, or Watership Downs, which were both huge parts of my childhood.

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Lord_Mordja
Lord_Mordja May 21 2009, 5:44pm replied:

Haha, Hi5 man! Read both those books too. Ah nostalgia...

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MiniHendrix
MiniHendrix Oct 24 2009, 5:46pm replied:

Yeah, Redwall was awesome back in the day. I even met Brian Jacques at a book signing.

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NightSage
NightSage May 19 2009, 3:06pm says:

Needs more Ninja turtles. lol j/k

Why ninja rabbits and not rabbit samurai?

hmmmm...

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Darkbladecr
Darkbladecr May 19 2009, 3:16pm says:

I think the idea of ninja rabbits is pretty awesome, gives some abstractness to the game, and uniqueness :D

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Fddlrnthrf
Fddlrnthrf May 19 2009, 5:01pm says:

Are you kidding me? Don't even think about dropping the animals! That's what makes this game awesome.

...I have fond memories of the Redwall books.

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Shralla
Shralla May 20 2009, 2:53am says:

I'm not convinced you guys aren't just furries, but the game is interesting enough to hold my attention.

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Eagle0600
Eagle0600 Sep 10 2009, 7:35am replied:

And would it be bad if they WERE just furries?

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TRL
TRL Mar 17 2011, 7:03am says:

I suggest you create more variation in these animal species. I would like there to still be four legged creatures. Like land whales resembling elephants. I mean if the animals are "humans", are there no animals anymore then?

But why just stick to mammals? From the top of my head, I can think of huge insect-like cave dwelling species, who rival with the reptile faction. Species of the sea and majestic gryphons and garudas of the sky which live on floating islands. It would really help the longevity of the game to have these really different domains in the game with all different surroundings and creatures. So the rabbit hero really gets the sense he travelled to a different place making him feel out of place. Traditionally in mythological games, this would translate to the snowy regions of the nordic people, the desert areas of the egyptians and even the far east asian cultures. Why limit the imagination? You really have the chance to create a real breathing world which looks and feels natural not only because of the graphics.

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