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Desura is definitely the most promising Steam competitor. Here are our thoughts as a developer, plus a chance to get into the beta!

Posted by jeffr on Dec 18th, 2009

The awesome guys at ModDB just announced they are launching a new digital distribution platform called Desura. A lot of Steam competitors come and go, but Desura is definitely one that we are going to be heavily supporting.

Desura

What is Desura?

First let's look at ModDB: ModDB is essentially a giant community-run site that tries to catalog all video games and their mods. Every game has its own page with screenshots, video, and a fully mirrored archive of mods and other files. We try to keep our Overgrowth page relatively up to date, and we are always blown away by the support we get from the community -- we are up to 1,041 "trackers" at the moment.

Desura takes ModDB to the next level. It is essentially a more advanced and professional iteration of ModDB, powered in conjunction with a Steam-like desktop app. You can browse Desura like you would ModDB, but when you find a mod you like, one click will tell Desura to automatically install it on your computer.

Furthermore, you can purchase games through it and perform most of the things you can do in Steam. For instance, it keeps your games and mods up to date, and even has an achievement system. The most exciting feature for me is the awesome mod support, which will hopefully let us use ModDB as a backend for our mod browser system.

How is it different from Steam?

Of all the PC digital distribution sites, Desura shares the most in common with Steam. It's still in private beta, so it is too early to see exactly what niche it finds, but it differs in at least a few fundamental ways.

  • Like on ModDB, discussion between the developer and the community is encouraged.
  • The barrier for games and mods to be entered is much lower and more community filtered, rather than selectively curated.
  • Desura is community oriented, so almost all of the screenshots, comments, and media is provided by the gamers themselves.
  • Desura sits on top of the largest database of mods for most games.

I'd like to say that it's also different because it supports Mac and Linux, but unfortunately it does not (yet). They are gradually working on it though. I think this will prove to be a really big deal, when it goes cross platform. I hear someone wrote a blog post on why you should support Mac OS X and Linux.

Desura
A screenshot of the Desura website.

How do I get my hands on it?

Desura is currently in private beta, but if you would like to try it out, just track Overgrowth on ModDB, and the Desura staff will add 25 people at random in the coming week.

To find out more you should visit the Desura Introduction and Desura FAQ.

We have been talking to the Desura guys for a while (long before it was officially announced), and it is definitely one of the most exciting new digital distribution platform we've seen. We hope to be one of the premiere titles to support it!



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Metalspy
Metalspy Dec 18 2009, 8:57pm says:

I'm already tracking Overgrowth.. the beta keys are for new watchers only? ):

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jeffr Author
jeffr Dec 18 2009, 9:04pm replied:

Nah, it's for everyone! :)

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Metalspy
Metalspy Dec 18 2009, 9:10pm replied:

Yay!

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Catalyst440
Catalyst440 Dec 18 2009, 9:13pm says:

Cant wait to test this out, gana be good.

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TYRIAN
TYRIAN Dec 18 2009, 9:20pm says:

Same here!

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JohnnyMaverik
JohnnyMaverik Dec 18 2009, 10:04pm says:

Hmmm, I like the idea, but more for the mod support than adding another digital distributor.

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jeffr Author
jeffr Dec 18 2009, 10:49pm replied:

The developer API make it really attractive to me, but it would be cool for the ModDB guys to finally start making some money if this takes off. ;)

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revengous
revengous Dec 19 2009, 1:08am replied:

that might mean no more ads :D

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INtense! Staff
INtense! Dec 19 2009, 1:15am replied:

Correct, Desura has no ads and if Desura is a success ModDB will go ad free as well, as we would prefer to earn money by selling and supporting indie games!

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Dra6o0n
Dra6o0n Dec 19 2009, 12:23pm replied:

Just don't go overboard like steam did...
I don't like the idea of Installation DRMs on most of steam's games list now...
Sure steam lists them before you can buy, but the existence of em are making gamers miserable...

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Darth.Hunter
Darth.Hunter Dec 19 2009, 2:15pm replied:

The DRMs are forced by publishers such as EA, I've read in an interview that Valve doesn't really want these DRMs, but when negotiating with publishers to sell their games on Steam, they often doon't want to throw their own DRM overboard.
If the Indie developers don't go DRM-crazy like EA did, I don't think Desura will be equipped with that crap.

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jeffr Author
jeffr Dec 19 2009, 4:05pm replied:

Really? I don't think any indie developer has ever wanted DRM.

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JohnnyMaverik
JohnnyMaverik Dec 20 2009, 1:37pm replied:

Actually EA never forced it, If you buy say Mass Effect, Mirror's Edge or Dead Space from Steam your getting it SecuROM free. Ubisoft and 2k are a different matter however, amongst others of course.... The Borderlands DLC and FarCry 2 both come with the 5 install limit, which is fking ridiculious.

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ultimate
ultimate Dec 20 2009, 4:07pm replied:

Never? Ea did it on Spore, no?

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diesal_11
diesal_11 Dec 20 2009, 5:04am replied:

Moddb has ads?
i barely noticed

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lodle Staff
lodle Dec 20 2009, 9:45pm replied:

They are not that bad in Australia but in the states they are worse

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Cjslayer16
Cjslayer16 Nov 30 2010, 4:50pm replied:

Come to think of it I barely notice them either. I'm in Canada.

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Ark_
Ark_ Dec 18 2009, 10:05pm says:

Glad to hear that you are taking the time to support Desura, as I feel its some thing that all mods and Indies that can should support.

Will we see the overgrowth page be approved for Desura during the beta?

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jeffr Author
jeffr Dec 18 2009, 10:51pm replied:

I'm not too sure on the details but it will be there soon, if not already. We've got some really neat stuff cooking behind the scenes though!

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x0oo0
x0oo0 Dec 18 2009, 10:58pm says:

But, say i have Hl2 on steam, would the mods work if i got them of Desura?

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Shirk
Shirk Dec 18 2009, 11:39pm replied:

Yes, Desura is like steam, you download it and you download the mods. The mods go into your Sourcemods if you have hl2 or any other source game. So pretty much its like Moddb without having to download and the manually install the mods?

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Xyrom
Xyrom Dec 19 2009, 12:39am says:

This is some of the most exiting news I've ever heard!!! Go ModDB!!!

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SliderFF
SliderFF Dec 19 2009, 2:31am says:

must.. remember.. my Steam passord O_o

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nimrod123
nimrod123 Dec 19 2009, 2:59am says:

anyone know if Desura is going to be client based, like steam, or only though a web browser?

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Ark_
Ark_ Dec 19 2009, 3:09am replied:

Its an application like steam is.

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rikkit
rikkit Jun 29 2010, 12:53pm replied:

If you want a web based Desura, go to Moddb.com

It's pretty cool :)

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Noremakk
Noremakk Dec 19 2009, 3:21am says:

I would use it if two things happen: 1) It works WITH Steam, not just in parallel to it. Game detection would be a good first-step.
2) It's not as heavy-duty as Steam; running both at the same time may actually slow a game down, if even just the smallest bit.

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Delusibeta
Delusibeta Dec 19 2009, 6:28am replied:

Well, the first part shouldn't be no problem, at least for Source mods (especially considering the fact that most Source mod installers I've used already auto-detect your Steam install). Not all third party games downloaded via Steam will work, however. (see: GTA San Andreas)

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Torabi
Torabi Dec 19 2009, 6:07am says:

One question Jeff, this game looks amazing and all but I'm not to keen on buying games without demos. So my question is, will this game have a demo?

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jeffr Author
jeffr Dec 19 2009, 11:57am replied:

Most definitely. We have to finish it first though ;)

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Torabi
Torabi Dec 19 2009, 4:58pm replied:

Oh good! Great to see developers who care about their community and reply to the little questions that people might have. Keep doing that, it will get you a long way.

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P4TRICK
P4TRICK Dec 19 2009, 6:59am says:

Awesome, ive just bought a mac that supports windows :P (got windows ultimate 64-bit too lol) :D

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Squiggers
Squiggers Dec 19 2009, 9:45am says:

Great news - think it should be interesting to see how well this works in comparison to steam, along with if it offers a better deal to developers.

Desura, have my babies.

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AlekZanDer
AlekZanDer Dec 19 2009, 12:10pm says:

Good idea. I wander what will happen to Steam when Desura comes out.

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jeffr Author
jeffr Dec 20 2009, 4:45pm replied:

I think there is more than enough room for both services. :)

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nige111
nige111 Dec 19 2009, 1:21pm says:

No offence, but I don't think something that extends steam games can be labelled as a competitor, since without steam, there would be no steam games to mod.

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jeffr Author
jeffr Dec 19 2009, 1:29pm replied:

Hmmmm, not sure I follow

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Ark_
Ark_ Dec 19 2009, 2:22pm replied:

Its not just for steam games tho, its for any game that supports mods or an Indie game.

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hushpuppy
hushpuppy Dec 19 2009, 2:48pm says:

I hope i get a invite since im a real ModDB addict.

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haxorfox
haxorfox Dec 19 2009, 3:05pm says:

I hope I get one as well.

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eXeC64
eXeC64 Dec 19 2009, 7:58pm says:

Overgrowth + Linux + Desura = Mega love from me

Shame I'm broke at the moment so I cant pre-order overgrowth just yet.

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TucoBenedicto
TucoBenedicto Dec 20 2009, 12:52am says:

Let's try this.

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Kitsunami
Kitsunami Dec 20 2009, 7:55am says:

interesting idea....but, steam is something i trust, and garentees fast speed downloads amongst other things.

I dont know why, but when i use steam my download speed goes at max, i never reach that speed with anything else, including torrents/basic downloads.

Digital distribution platforms are useless without speed of download.

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ultimate
ultimate Dec 20 2009, 4:10pm replied:

The Moddb servers are really fast from what I've witnessed. Had 4 mb/s o a download last time I checked. From Steam I usually get around 1 mb/s.

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jeffr Author
jeffr Dec 20 2009, 4:44pm replied:

This is something easily solved, if it's a problem. Check this out: Blog.wolfire.com

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Joe_Shmoe
Joe_Shmoe Dec 20 2009, 11:10am says:

Im guessing Desura will match what steam has to offer, well the potential is there, it can... i think Desura may actually be a worthy competitor to steam =] and Mac and Linux support (Whoohoo!!!)... Rome wasnt built in a day, so im not expecting something extra special... but in time it will grow, and grow, and grow =] What I do expect is to see steam coming up with a strategy, would be interesting to see what a threat they make this out to be...

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Dra6o0n
Dra6o0n Dec 20 2009, 10:25pm says:

I think what needs to change in this world is the shift in power...
Currently it's all the big corporation pushing the smaller ones to do their bidding... And the sad part is that it's a part of our humanity too...

Once developers has the power to create, publish, and sell their own games, with their own might, and not rely on other companies, I really doubt games would cost around 60 dollars average...

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Cirdain
Cirdain Dec 30 2009, 3:15am says:

Looking forward to it

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