One of the first things you may notice in the title is that the "B" is missing from VTMB, this is not an accident. The Final Nights is an expansion to an otherwise flawless video game built upon the success of the Camarilla Edition series of mods. The "B" has been removed because this expansion can no longer bare the name Bloodlines as it is so far removed from the original game as to warrant the name change. The idea behind this expansion is, and always will be the notion of a completely new experience unlike we've seen so far. With 7 completely brand new clans, 5 new disciplines, extra quests, new NPCs, new game mechanics and new music, the features seem endless. All of this is being built upon the Camarilla Edition series incorporating such things as the blood timer system, pedestrian blood dolls, and the new combat system. Combined we feel the name Bloodlines must be removed from this game, and thus we now simply have "The Final Nights".

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WARNING! We have encountered a major bug in this version. When getting Presence level 3, it appears the passive disciplines no longer work. Also, Auspex must be activated before entering a new map in order to benefit from the Inspection buff. We are looking into releasing a hotfix for both but until that time, feel free to play it but avoid using Presence 3 or higher. We apologize for this oversight.

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ClaudiaVonigner
ClaudiaVonigner

Getting it now, bro!

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Zer0morph Author
Zer0morph

Awesome Claudia!!! Happy New Year!!

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Next_Gen_1987
Next_Gen_1987

The wait is over! :-P
Thank you so much and your team for all your hard work! Just need to uninstall Unofficial patch first then install this mod and I'm ready to go! XD

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Zer0morph Author
Zer0morph

Sweetness! Have fun and go get ya some blood! :)

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CrimsonSage
CrimsonSage

Hey Zeromorph I have some questions what level of inspection do you need to see tattoo parlor key ? I have five level and no key. Also I got Masquerade Violation but no email from black about it. But I got introduction email from her when I started the game.

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Zer0morph Author
Zer0morph

The tattoo parlor key in Carson's apartment? That's a quest item so you don't need inspection to see it. It should be on his TV. That's the key you're talking about right?

Where did you get the violation?

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CrimsonSage
CrimsonSage

Yes I am talking about that key. It is not on the TV. Also I got violation by healing heather but no email about it from black.

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CrimsonSage
CrimsonSage

Sorry I make a mistake about key. But I was right about violation and no second email from black.

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Zer0morph Author
Zer0morph

The only way this could've happened is if you got the violation from Heather and recovered the werewolf blood without ever leaving the clinic. The violation and redemption would cancel each other out so you wouldn't get the email. Is that what happened?

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Guest
Guest

TBM playing in the asylum. NICE!

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Zer0morph Author
Zer0morph

Haha nice! I love Birthday Massacre so much!

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Guest
Guest

I am now playing as a follower of set I got phobia and heart of darkness but I can't see them in the bar

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Zer0morph Author
Zer0morph

Read the game manual, it explains what to do.

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darkkelly
darkkelly

how to unpack it?

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Zer0morph Author
Zer0morph

It's an .exe, just double click it and the installer will run. Find your install path and that's it. Look in the game manual for further details.

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ventrue54
ventrue54

how do you unpack this?

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Klaus_V
Klaus_V

Nice!

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Azdalu
Azdalu

edit:(sorry, stupid question, the TFN game manual answered it)

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Zer0morph Author
Zer0morph

Yaay! Someone read the manual! :)

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Sergio1992
Sergio1992

hey,
I'm playing your mod and I'm enjoying it. I currently have an issue. I got blood buff (2) but strength, dexterity, and stamina are improved only by one. How cna I fix this?

Also I can't seem to be able to find Akeem in the parking spot. Where is he supposed to be?

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Zer0morph Author
Zer0morph

It should be giving you +2 points in all of your physical attributes. Sounds like a strange bug I've never seen before.

Akeem will leave his spot when the thugs show up, are you in the middle of Venus' quest?

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Sergio1992
Sergio1992

it's the same issue that the guy you gave the chance to play the final nights before anyone else experienced.
Referring to : Todd EVF

It rises when:

> You get a second\third point in presence
> in my case it arised when I was doing the blood bearer quest
> it is a pain because my character is now 'handicapped', given the fact that I can't use all the skills and I wasted precious xp getting points in blood buff.

When it is solved, I will resume my playthrough.

By the way, some of the content seems really professional. I was a huge advocate against the inspection buff you made, but in the end I enjoyed it.

And presence working in dialogues is pretty neat. Well done. But I also have some complains that I will do in due time when the mod is over. :)

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Zer0morph Author
Zer0morph

Thank you for the information. Yeah this bug is really annoying and I'm not sure why it's happening. The only thing I can think of is when the system swaps the item back and forth it messes up the game somehow. I'm surprised to see Presence 2 messes up Blood Buff though, because Presence 2 is the same as before.

I've gotten reports that you have to activate Auspex before entering a new zone to benefit from the Inspection increase and it shouldn't be that way and didn't act like that when I play tested it.

Bloodlines is so frustrating to mod. :(

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Sergio1992
Sergio1992

you are right, it is presence 3 ******* up everything. Let me know when you fixed this annoying bug and I will be back on the tracks.

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Zer0morph Author
Zer0morph

Thanks for the confirmation. So here's what happens when you get Presence 3+. An invisible item is given to the player which raises your social stats, then when the dialogue ends, the item is replaced by another item which removes the first item. Unfortunately with Bloodlines, you can give an item to the player via python script but you can't remove it... so frustrating. I'll need to figure out another way to implement this.

When I did play testing it worked perfectly, but that's because I wasn't thinking the new items would cripple Blood Buff/Heal, I mean why would they, right? It was an issue that made no sense so I couldn't plan for it.

It's true when another Bloodlines modder said, "When you change one thing in Bloodlines over here, it breaks something else over there." That is SOOO true! :(

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Sergio1992
Sergio1992

a crude hack would be putting a new item that gives the buffs when you activate the blood buff and you got presence >2

But honestly I know nothing about how you could do it ;)

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Zer0morph Author
Zer0morph

I just finished reviewing all the code for the Presence system and I have a couple ideas on what I can do to fix it. I'm wondering if the items themselves are truly being removed so I'm going to make them visible so I can really see what's going on behind the scenes. Worst case scenario, I could write a new python script that removes the items upon changing maps. There's a few options open to me so all is not lost yet.

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Sergio1992
Sergio1992

Let me know how you will sort it out. I'm curious.

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Zer0morph Author
Zer0morph

If I can fix this so it works exactly how I want, believe me I'll make a post of it and be so proud of myself. It's just a shame that so much work went into such a cool system only to find that it breaks something else completely unrelated AFTER releasing it to the world. Disappointing.

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Sergio1992
Sergio1992

I also have an issue with blood heal that I can't seem to be able to replicate in a new game by adding xp points. It simply doesn't work. I got no idea why, but even if I put 5 points in it, I just won't heal if not for the first second, then I get no healing anymore.

I uploaded a savegame, just so you could see:

Speedyshare.com

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Zer0morph Author
Zer0morph

Yeah, this is the Presence bug. I bet Blood Buff/Heal worked fine until you hit level 3 Presence right? Before then, it was okay?

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Sergio1992
Sergio1992

I honestly don't know. I tried to replicate the bug by adding presence 3 on a new character whom I gave 600 xp points to distribute, but the blood heal didn't fail to work. So I'm lost.

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Zer0morph Author
Zer0morph

Exactly, that's why this problem is so frustrating. I can't track down at which point in the game Blood Buff/Heal stops working, this is why I didn't spot the bug before release. It seems the only way to find it is to play the game which takes hours and you have to constantly keep checking to see if Blood Buff/Heal is working. It's a stupid frustrating bug for sure.

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basjan
basjan

Thanks,can't wait to play the final night. Had enjoyed and played the vtmb countless times.

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Zer0morph Author
Zer0morph

It's a wonderful mod however there's a slight bug with Presence 3 or higher, as stated above.

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basjan
basjan

I get "you don't have a valid reply when talking to the prince after killing the Sabbat. Also i don't always get the quest to get the photo to blackmail Gary.

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Zer0morph Author
Zer0morph

You need to have Silvia Black unlocked in order to get the quest to get the photo from the reporter. This has to be done before reaching Hollywood, or the reporter will turn in the photo.

As for "unvalid reply", after killing the Sabbat, you walk in, speak with LaCroix, and what does he say? I can track the line down if you tell me which line he speaks.

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basjan
basjan

Thanks Zer0morp for the tip, I have loaded a saved game and got back to get the Silvia Black quest, also the problem with the prince was solved. Thanks for your advise.

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Zer0morph Author
Zer0morph

No problem man, have fun playing! :)

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Guest
Guest

I have read in the previous versions that you recommend not installing the unofficial patch, installing the game then the mod directly.
Do you still recommend to do so in version 1.4?

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Zer0morph Author
Zer0morph

Yes, however there is a game breaking bug with Presence right now that if you get Presence 3 or higher, your other passive disciplines stop working. Also, Auspex is not working as intended but it isn't game breaking. It's your choice on if you want to play 1.4 with the bugs, or go back to 1.3.

Currently we have our best python programmer; Childe of Malkav, working on the issue, and he's making good progress. We should have all of these bugs working out in the next couple weeks, hopefully. When it's fixed and been tested, we'll be releasing a hotfix for 1.4.

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SinStar87
SinStar87

Game looks interesting, this mod as well, but GoG version comes with the unofficial patch, is that a problem for this, if so would there be a way to correct it?

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milinm
milinm

Hi Zeromorph,

Can we expect new content in the future? Thanks!

- Milinm.

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blacksun54
blacksun54

It sais not to use the official patch but.. with just this installed I'm getting the -15mb memory error is there a fix or do I have to run it in compatibility mode?

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Sehrael
Sehrael

Hi there.

Love this mod so far, it works flawless (except 1 not-gamebreaking thing and 1 absolutely gamebreaking thing, i talk about that later in this post) and - which makes the game so much more enjoyable and which appeared in Antitribu and Clan Quest just like in the original game - without any crashes until the point I am now.

Currently playing as Setite, love it so far, couldn't live without "domination". Rarely used the snakeform, sandstorm and heart because the snakeform is just unneccessary later, sandstorm just isn't my style and thus worthless and the heart... nah thanks, it may be a strong power but the downs are too risky for me. Using a lot of potence and presence with the artifact that makes your unarmed attacks lethal (or that lethal little katana if I feel like it). Besides the few flaws I like the clan.

Well. Some critizised that this mod isn't what it claims to be - something not alike bloodlines, which I have to admit, is wrong. There may be some cool stuff like bank account hacking, which I loved, even with the humanity penalty, some new quests, Akeem, who was very nice and authentic as far as I can tell that and yeah... some other stuff. But it isn't different from Bloodlines storywise or something like that but it is in my opinion significantly better than Clan Quest or Antitribu (Clan Quest was just boring and Antitribu bugged like hell)

Also, the game for me was pretty "normal"... difficulty-wise. Not too hard I think.

This mod has by far more ups than downs, but now the bugs that are... bugging me.

1. Not directly gamebreaking: The skyline apartments which just get bugged. The console mainly says something about the elevator not working properly and restarting the game at least solved it temporarily, but like in any other mod by now, the apartments are just broken. Curious things instead of doorknobs and similar stuff. Was gamebreaking (well... "side"gamebreaking at least, console helped a lot via noclip) in other mods and is still present in this one. Very ugly bug. The mod would run a bit more smooth if this wouldn't happen. At least I could pass the elevator (whose buttons are also bugged/a little off). If I wanted to use my com, I needed to restart.

2. Absolutely gamebreaking: After defeating the Sabbat at the hallowbrook hotel, if I report to LaCroix, after the line where he just insults his gorilla because I am way better (gharhar) my character just says "I have no valid reply". If I use that "answer" the quest is solved and the story doesn't progress. Dunno if it has anything to do with the elevator because that one has - at least the console says so - problems too. I tried the things mentioned in the comment where someone stated the same problem, but nothing worked. I also tried talking to the "major characters" like Strauss, Jack and some others ... but the game just doesn't let me getting blown up with my prince. What a shame.

I hope you guys still work on it, I try another run with another character (probably Baali if I remember them correctly, the corrupting satanists) and tell if it happens too. Otherwise, very well made so far... I hope the VtMB-Modding community isn't dead, the mods have great potential.

Cheers.

ps: Would write an proper review, but I cannot seem to find a review-button in the section ment for it :>

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Sehrael
Sehrael

Update to my last post: same issue with "No valid reply" as Baali.

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SilentSalubri
SilentSalubri

The one Major thing that makes The Final Nights better than Bloodlines Antitribu? You have The Final Nights as an exe file, and not a rar or zip file, meaning I can install it like the unofficial patch and it's simple easy and guaranteed to work. Thank you for making such a fantastic Vampire mod.

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