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Knights of the Force (KotF) is an expansion pack mod that includes stages, characters, places weapons and vehicles from the 6 movies, cartoons and comics. It is also a encyclopedia for Star Wars. KotF includes 100 new Star Wars character, 150 skin, 70 lightsaber, 40 vehicle, 50 new stage, 130 NPC, around 40 new and upgraded menu, 70 multiplayer map and an astonishing CD menu. All this is in 2 CDs (1.4 GB) You can access the level list, details of singleplayer and multiplayer features, information and pictures of the structure of KotF on the updated FEATURES section... KotF is produced in 6 languages. These languages are; Turkish, English, German, Spanish, French and Portuguese. KotF also includes more than 50 in-game video and cinematics and around 30 new music. To give the players full access on these maps and stages, KotF has a new menu interface. Some of these are; KotF Add/Load Menu System, KotF Player Menu System and KotF CD Menu

Report article RSS Feed Knights of the Farce: We've Had Enough

Mod DB has finally had enough of the once-popular mod for Jedi Academy, and have decided to formally ban it. Here is our explanation.

Posted by jacksonj04 on Mar 9th, 2008

Archiving mods isn't something we like doing. We dislike banning mods even more. However, Knights of the Force has finally reached the point where - despite numerous chances at redemption and erring on the side of goodwill - we have decided to add it to our small list of "Don't touch this with a very long stick" mods.

As some of you may be aware, KotF has long had a reputation of being a sham mod with no original content, never delivering what was promised when it was promised. This was compounded by allegations of attempting to charge for the mod, misappropriation of donations and various other stuff. Mod DB's policy of not getting involved with the politics of individual mods was rolled out time and time again in response to various users asking (And in some cases demanding) that we ban the mod, TimFx, and anybody else who happened to say that perhaps the mod might be legitimate.

Months passed and it all faded away, only to be brought back to the forefront a couple of days ago with the advent of Knights of the Force 2.0 (Part 1). We duly downloaded the file, read the readme, noticed the mentions of the virus alert, checked the checksums and decided that at least one part of the mod was as described - there was no virus in cmdow.exe. The rest of the mod looked to be vaguely correct to our non-Jedi-Academy-playing eyes, so we tentatively authed the download.

Two days later, we've been getting allegations of trojans of varying degrees, pointless file bulking, distribution of LucasArts' original content, non-attribution of some content and various other stuff. Some of this is verified, other is scaremongering. Either way this adds up to what is, in the eyes of some of Mod DB's core staff, a simple verdict:

Pull it. We've given enough chances for the mod's reputation to be restored.

For legal reasons and to avoid the subsequent headaches I'm not going to make or repeat specific accusations against the mod or say which of the above we believe to be true, but suffice to say we believe it has broken several of Mod DB's terms of use, and just goes against the spirit of the entire modding community. We have pulled the 2.0 (Part 1) download completely and banned the mod, although you may find the changes haven't rippled out to you by the time you read this.

Any questions you have we'll do our best to answer in here if you post a comment, or if you'd rather not say something publically then fire me a PM.

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Johnny_Phalapagis
Johnny_Phalapagis Mar 9 2008, 3:30am buried:

(buried)

omg drama lolololololololololololololo lolololololololololololololol

-106 votes     reply to comment
ambershee
ambershee Mar 10 2008, 2:11pm replied:

-27 has got to be a new record.

+8 votes     reply to comment
Cervi_Messias
Cervi_Messias Mar 18 2011, 10:25am replied:

-90 now

+1 vote     reply to comment
Adana_Bandit
Adana_Bandit Aug 11 2008, 5:34am replied:

-52

+2 votes     reply to comment
Gin
Gin Nov 29 2008, 7:56pm replied:

- 56 Haha.

+2 votes     reply to comment
RedBlueGreen953
RedBlueGreen953 Mar 4 2009, 3:11pm replied:

HAHA -61 EVEN NEWER RECORD

+2 votes     reply to comment
Cybio
Cybio Dec 29 2009, 11:50am replied:

omg...
-73!

+2 votes     reply to comment
zerocreatorz
zerocreatorz Jun 13 2010, 1:54pm replied:

one more and hes -80 XD

+1 vote     reply to comment
architectts
architectts Jun 24 2010, 5:46pm replied:

It's NEGATIVE 80!!

+1 vote     reply to comment
Garyn Dakari
Garyn Dakari Sep 19 2010, 3:24am replied:

-84

+1 vote     reply to comment
MattmanDude
MattmanDude Oct 30 2010, 7:40pm replied:

-86? Holy crap.

+1 vote     reply to comment
SovereignReaper
SovereignReaper Dec 23 2010, 3:38am replied:

lol 87 lets keep it going people!!

+1 vote     reply to comment
leilei
leilei Mar 9 2008, 3:32am says:

about time!

+18 votes     reply to comment
sbnewsom
sbnewsom Mar 9 2008, 5:05am replied:

Indeed. I'm sick of hearing about this mod. Same with a lot of other people.

+7 votes     reply to comment
Malvado_Zombie[X]
Malvado_Zombie[X] Mar 9 2008, 10:51pm replied:

Yeah... this ended and that is good

+3 votes     reply to comment
cole.c.christensen
cole.c.christensen Mar 9 2008, 3:32am says:

Why did you feel you owe them an explanation? If this is all true, why even give them the time of day?

+2 votes     reply to comment
jacksonj04
jacksonj04 Mar 9 2008, 3:33am replied:

We're not explaining to the mod team, we're clarifying for the people on Mod DB who'll wonder where everything suddenly went.

+6 votes     reply to comment
cole.c.christensen
cole.c.christensen Mar 9 2008, 3:34am says:

That's what I was thinking...why not just lay down the banhammer, why the epic explanation?

+1 vote     reply to comment
Henley
Henley Mar 9 2008, 4:24am says:

if he learns from his mistakes there will be something to gain from all this

+11 votes     reply to comment
SinKing
SinKing Mar 9 2008, 7:03am says:

He won't learn anything. This whole idea to get back onto the modding sites, was his last straw ro re-gain credibility; so he must have thought at least.

ModdB staff took the only responsible decision. We can't allow people to take advantage of the great open community of modders to augment their own riches! Well done and thanks for doing this!

+7 votes     reply to comment
franzmann
franzmann Mar 9 2008, 7:06am says:

ehm...
Hi
i have downloaded it installed and played
so can anyone say me in primitiv englisch(mine isint good)
if i will get a virus i have deinstalled erveryrhing
thx for answer

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TKAzA
TKAzA Mar 9 2008, 8:38am replied:

you will still have it if it had one

+1 vote     reply to comment
jacksonj04
jacksonj04 Mar 9 2008, 12:24pm replied:

Get a free antivirus program like AVG (http://free.grisoft.com/doc/downloads-products/us/frt/0?prd=aff) and run it on your system. That should find and remove anything dangerous.

You should be running a virus scanner anyway, so leave AVG installed afterwards.

+2 votes     reply to comment
desic123
desic123 Aug 29 2008, 5:19pm replied:

i have tried to dowload it and to be honest there is problems and im not shocked or angry that they did it~ good job moddb!

+1 vote     reply to comment
Kyle_K_ski
Kyle_K_ski Mar 9 2008, 8:37am says:

I installed this mod yesterday, and my anti-virus program ran its anti-spyware scan during the night, and it quarantined two items:

(1) Pigeon PP and
(2) CMDOW

Out of the two, I removed the quarantine on CMDOW since Knights of the Force isn't the first Jedi Academy mod to have such an "error" associated with it, even though there's a reasonable probability that such "errors" cause no actual harm to one's system. It might also explain why the menu interactions were behaving so strangely yesterday: my anti-spyware program MAY have quarantined it as soon as the program was installed without telling me immediately about it (it's done this before, particularly with totally legitimate mods for Operation Flashpoint).

That said, I am concerned about the Pigeon PP infection, as it's a particularly tough bugger to get rid of. I've encountered in on my system before, and my anti-spyware program quarantined it then, without it popping up again. The fact that it's been redetected, and only after I installed KotF, makes me highly suspicious that this latest detection of Pigeon PP is due to the mod's installation.

I'd GREATLY appreciate it if anybody here could confirm whether or not they've also had such an experience. Without doubt, it'd be useful for the members of the moddb community who've downloaded/installed it to verify if this mod was the culprit.

Had I only known just how much controversy was wrapped up in this mod...

Thanks in advance!

+8 votes     reply to comment
Empa
Empa Mar 9 2008, 8:43am says:

Bah the mod is just a big pack of mods. Imo he been delaying work that could be done in 1-2 months.

+2 votes     reply to comment
Mango
Mango Mar 9 2008, 10:07am says:

That Tim guy is going to be ******.

+1 vote     reply to comment
Mert-K
Mert-K Jun 13 2009, 8:52am replied:

In his pants

+1 vote     reply to comment
Aeneas2020
Aeneas2020 Mar 9 2008, 10:10am says:

Here Here good move moddb :D...if the mod was a truly epic experience i think the community reaction to his stolen content and possible trojan virus installers may have been slightly softer. However this truly shows the lowest form of this amature industry i applaud you guys for this move and helping take a little bit of respect back from people like this.

+14 votes     reply to comment
Darth.Hunter
Darth.Hunter Mar 9 2008, 10:36am says:

Two thumbs up for ModDB. That's the best decision they could make. Unfortunately it won't bring back the money to the people that have been scammed, but it will help to prevent further of these events.

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TheOneandOnly
TheOneandOnly Mar 9 2008, 11:02am says:

It's a real shame things like this have to happen. Not only has it angered many, many people, but it detracts from the legitimate, hard-working mod community.

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kinesis916
kinesis916 Mar 9 2008, 1:21pm replied:

Just what I was going to say. It really is a shame that something like this happens, esspecially when they were given every oppourtunity to change.

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mikejkelley
mikejkelley Mar 10 2008, 11:34am replied:

Lol, he said "legitimate". Look that up, read this, Mikejkelley.com and then look up "ironic".

+2 votes     reply to comment
TheOneandOnly
TheOneandOnly Mar 10 2008, 12:57pm replied:

Well, legitimate in the sense that the developers of either the mod content or game don't have an issues with it.

+1 vote     reply to comment
JLea
JLea Mar 9 2008, 11:40am says:

About time. Good work guys.

+3 votes     reply to comment
oWn4g3
oWn4g3 Mar 9 2008, 12:47pm says:

Right decision. Alone for creating the hope of a mod that he never intended to create by himself he deserves banning. Maybe the whole thing just sounded too good to be true :(

Nevertheless, Knights of the Farce... a nice pun :D

+6 votes     reply to comment
Elando
Elando Mar 9 2008, 12:54pm says:

thank god. It was about time someone banned his sorry *** and taugh him a lesson

+4 votes     reply to comment
dzzjj
dzzjj Mar 9 2008, 1:51pm buried:

(buried)

Well i can play it and it is fun.
And the virus is a mis warning...

Dunno ppl

-21 votes     reply to comment
daedulas
daedulas Mar 9 2008, 11:34pm says:

Ding dong the mod is dead!
HORRAY!!!!!!!!

+1 vote     reply to comment
SepheronX
SepheronX Mar 10 2008, 3:41am says:

Can someone explain something to me? What was this mod about? I saw it occasionally on the site, but did not bother to even look at it, since I do not have the actual game.

So he was distributing someone else's content for a fee or donation money, and in return, gives you an installer with virus' attached? Is this correct?

If so, then congrats moddb for taking effect and protecting others. And I am sorry to hear about those who got scammed.

+1 vote     reply to comment
SepheronX
SepheronX Mar 10 2008, 3:44am replied:

Oh stupid me, I actually decided to read what this mod was about *claps hands knowing he can read*

+1 vote     reply to comment
Skywalker58
Skywalker58 Mar 11 2008, 5:18pm buried:

(buried)

Noob's You all noobs ...

-11 votes     reply to comment
ambershee
ambershee Mar 10 2008, 6:16am replied:

It's (as the author would claim), a total conversion of Jedi Academy that would span the storylines of all six films, and has reportedly been in production for four to five years now.

However, it has been skipping it's own release deadlines for at least two years, and has apparently never shown any content that was not produced by someone else and made freely available. There are many instances of claims that the author has been taking donations or otherwise asking for money in exchange for progress on a purportedly non-existent project - every deadline he sets, it goes overdue for a few weeks or months with some excuse, then that news is erased, a new deadline is given, and it starts again.

It's a shame that action has had to be taken, but having been watching KoTF for well over a year personally, I believe it was in ModDBs best interests to do so, rather than continue with the drama that it has been creating for so long.

+5 votes     reply to comment
SinKing
SinKing Mar 10 2008, 7:46am says:

The worst thing is, TimFX never gave a damn about the community following this mod. This thing could have worked out, since KOTF has/had a huge fanbase, but instead of listening to complains and looking for solutions, the creator just erased threads and deleted unpleasant answers on the forum.

I still believe he had the best intentions when he started the project, however these didn't work out and in the end it was just a hoax-project, releasing no real "new" content. Perhaps he should have just made the Star Wars Encyclopaedia. We would have credited this effort for what it is: a small fanbase contribution. KOTF was big, too big in ambition, but if Tim had told the truth about it at some point, he would have been shown mercy. Going on pretending like that wasn't advisable...

+8 votes     reply to comment
jacksonj04
jacksonj04 Mar 10 2008, 3:01pm replied:

Absolutely. If the mod had been released as a simple compendium of content (With creators' permissions) and perhaps a nicer menu system for selecting that content (Jedi Academy never had a good selection method for large volumes of content) we would have supported it.

+1 vote     reply to comment
Aeneas2020
Aeneas2020 Mar 10 2008, 10:11am says:

well said sinking...the thing that bugs me is the guy clearly has no modding skills but he never asked for help and constantly lied and stole. The money thing well thats just lower than low. All i can say now is moddb made the 1st step but there are probably 100 other sites out there fueling this guys ego and ripping off legit fans. There has to be something more that can be done.

+2 votes     reply to comment
Ilsamir_Lord
Ilsamir_Lord Mar 26 2008, 6:46pm replied:

I think ModDB was actually one of the later sites to act (and I think that they were right to stay detached until there was irrefutable proof/weight of evidence against the mod). I know sites like FileFront and such banned the mod a fair while ago because, based on the content shown and discussed (by TimFX), the mod would have breached the End User License Agreement, in so far as Tim claimed to have "hacked" the source code and had derived money from producing the mod.

All this being said, the mod, had it ever come out in the intended form, would have been great. A proper Star Wars game spanning all the films has never been attempted, and heaven knows Lucasarts weren't going to do anything about that state of affairs.

The thing which should have really given it away was Tim's attitude to the community - what with the deleting of threads, banning of users etc. No self-respecting modder would do that sort of thing. If the community doesn't understand something, or criticises something, it's pretty much your "job", or the job of the PR manager, to sort that out.

+2 votes     reply to comment
SpawnHazard
SpawnHazard Mar 10 2008, 6:21pm says:

The best thing could be done so far by Moddb.

+1 vote     reply to comment
TParis
TParis Mar 11 2008, 4:20am says:

Everyody gets what he deserves.

+1 vote     reply to comment
Zhouy
Zhouy Apr 9 2008, 10:09am says:

Good thing to archive this piece of trash. All Tim wanted to do was making money out of his "awesome mod".

+2 votes     reply to comment
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