This mod is for all the players frustrated with the cartoony nature of Zero Hour units and buildings. We intend to replace every fanciful unit in Zero Hour with its closest possible real world equivalent, without changing the unit's capabilities.

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F-35A Lightning II
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SveaRikeSoldier
SveaRikeSoldier Nov 15 2012, 12:00pm buried:

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Am I the only one who thinks realism is boring and that it signifies that mod creators have no creativity? Yeah well nice model anyhow, really like it!

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Keksz Author
Keksz Nov 15 2012, 12:08pm replied:

True to some degree. But it is all about execution. BF3 is realistic too in looks right? But still it managed to create creative visual effects and in the way it represents itself (orange light glow, dirty lens focus points light streaks, the sound design etc) is also creative.

And texturing is actually not a 1:1 copying work. You need a understanding for colors and shadows which require a certain amount of creativity and abstraction. Although I agree you could also come up with your own design which shows more creativity but if you like this then this is definatly the wrong place for you :P
Thanks anyways

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willychong8921
willychong8921 Nov 16 2012, 11:39am replied:

He obviously thought that texturing a model is equivalent of clinking a single button and let the computer do it for you, sad to see others don't appreciated real good work there........ :(

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SpiritOfNimruzîr
SpiritOfNimruzîr Nov 17 2012, 3:18pm replied:

Good job guys this is obviousl..... *DIES OF HEART ATTACK*

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BossGeneral
BossGeneral Nov 15 2012, 12:16pm replied:

I don't believe realism is boring in any way shape or form. It is actually quite harder to achieve realism and in this case texture something realistically or accurately than it is to skip realism and focus on fictional creations.

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rkraptor70
rkraptor70 Nov 15 2012, 12:17pm replied:

Ignore that troll guys. He's just trying to start a pointless augment.

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dhd Creator
dhd Nov 15 2012, 12:49pm replied:

Euuuh.

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Anubis_theDark
Anubis_theDark Nov 15 2012, 2:18pm replied:

It's called taste. Some people like fictional stuff, other people like realistic stuff. It's not even close to the idea of having or not having creativity.

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modrenlajus
modrenlajus Nov 15 2012, 4:16pm replied:

They could add more units that doesent change gameplay. like f16 you can build in airfield but it has asme stats as f15 no game change just looks and bigger veriaty.

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Keksz Author
Keksz Nov 16 2012, 2:35am replied:

I think thats a good idea. Not a new idea because I and others already added this kind of style (other model same stats) in some of the other mods I am working on but still I guess that could add to the variety.

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rkraptor70
rkraptor70 Nov 16 2012, 1:19pm replied:

We are somewhat considering it. But that will be a finishing touch.

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phoenix8
phoenix8 Nov 15 2012, 9:35pm replied:

I guess you are. :P LOL! Just kiddin'.

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Comanche_Prime
Comanche_Prime Nov 16 2012, 1:49pm replied:

yeah, you're the only one...

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BossGeneral
BossGeneral Nov 15 2012, 12:13pm says:

Keksz that's a beautiful texture. I see you went with the 58 FS instead of the 33 FW on the Tail however. Is there any reason why you chose one over the over ?

Btw here is a good image of both of them in flight:

Eglin.af.mil

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Keksz Author
Keksz Nov 15 2012, 12:17pm replied:

Thank you :)

I don't think there is a diffrence between both since the 58 FS is under command of the 33 FW. Actually they are both the same or I am mistaking something.

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BossGeneral
BossGeneral Nov 15 2012, 12:29pm replied:

They appear to be both the same as well. However I am not exactly sure in this case why they don't just use the 33 FW designation on the tail or simply the 58 FS. Perhaps it can be explained by the fact that these are the first F-35A Operational Evaluation and production units delivered to the USAF.

You are also correct. The 58th Fighter Squadron is under the 33rd Fighter Wing but typical USAF practice for designations and markings would show either the Squadron or Wing Markings in addition to the other markings.

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delafuturelife
delafuturelife Nov 15 2012, 12:47pm says:

hello yes this model his great and nice glass :)
regards from argentina.

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Trooper425
Trooper425 Nov 15 2012, 12:55pm says:

Y'know, the Nighthawk IS used IRL for the role it has in-game... Just saying...

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dhd Creator
dhd Nov 15 2012, 12:56pm replied:

Retired in 2008.

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Keksz Author
Keksz Nov 15 2012, 12:58pm replied:

The F-117 Nighthawk is retired and not in use anymore since I think 2006.
It is too slow and the maintenace cost were too high. It just wasn't efficent enough anymore so the F-35 is there to close the missing gap now. Multirole but still the same capability as the F-117 and of course even better.

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BossGeneral
BossGeneral Nov 15 2012, 1:19pm replied:

The F-117 was retired from March/April 2008. It was last seen with the American Flag flyaway pattern in a farewell ceremony on the bottom of the F-117A.

Example of this flyaway pattern:

Upload.wikimedia.org

Your correct about the maintenance cost and the slow speed. It was also becoming obsolete and the only advantage it held was the 'stealth' technology but since 1999 many operators have learned how to counter it's low radar signature. The F-35 is intended as a multi-role aircraft and one of it's intended roles is to replace the F-117A Nighthawk.

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wolfrayne1
wolfrayne1 Feb 11 2013, 4:58pm replied:

the f35 is training aircraft only it never made it to combat status so its unrealistic as a replacement for the f117 and there is no current stealth fighter on combat status aside from the f 22 raptor so the only choice i can see is to make the euro fighter the stealth fighter if you want to go with the NATO idea but other than that there is no alt for f117

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excel0
excel0 Jan 2 2013, 9:36am replied:

IKR. I think they shouldn't change the aircraft. They DID say that they won't change "anything" in the game and would change the models into it's closest real world counterpart, so why change it?

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Reborn:X
Reborn:X Nov 15 2012, 12:56pm says:

And this will replaces the Aurora?.

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dhd Creator
dhd Nov 15 2012, 12:57pm replied:

Stealth bomber.

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BossGeneral
BossGeneral Nov 15 2012, 1:06pm replied:

This replaces the F-117A Nighthawk in the game which is the 'Stealth Fighter' inside the game.

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[TZP]LoNer1
[TZP]LoNer1 Nov 15 2012, 1:29pm says:

This all looks so good... i started wondering... why share it?

I mean, it will get stolen eventually. I know, doomsday thinker blah blah, but prove me wrong :\ I'd rather see these in a full sized game!

But still... awesome!

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dhd Creator
dhd Nov 15 2012, 2:25pm replied:

So? Doomsday thinker?

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[TZP]LoNer1
[TZP]LoNer1 Nov 15 2012, 2:28pm replied:

Nothing :D Just something to keep in mind ;)

Nahh, i'd rather see it in a mod (ranging from now to release) then in a game which will take years.

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SpiritOfNimruzîr
SpiritOfNimruzîr Nov 18 2012, 5:40pm replied:

These models and textures could acctualy suit this title ''Battlefield Fragments the first RTS battlefield ever!'' XD

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flames09
flames09 Nov 15 2012, 5:38pm says:

Will there be other alternatives other than black, or is Henry Ford controlling the production line?

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BossGeneral
BossGeneral Nov 15 2012, 6:46pm replied:

This is the official color scheme for production F-35A's from Eglin AFB:

Eglin.af.mil

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Eglin.af.mil

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Timgao929
Timgao929 Nov 15 2012, 8:30pm says:

Nice model indeed, but its paint job somewhat reminds me of its Chinese equivalent, the "Sino-JSF" J-31, which also bear the black skin.
I means NO criticism, the skin is well suited for "Stealth" operation aircraft and its badass for sure.

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Keksz Author
Keksz Nov 16 2012, 2:39am replied:

Yeah I know what you mean but the black color ain't so black actually. It's a special kind of metallic paint which reflects radar signals. In light it looks silverish and in the dark a bit blue/grey and in neutral light mostly a anthrazit color. I wen't with a neutral look since ZH doesnt support specular maps which react on light. I don't really think that the F-35 will see some sweet camo paintjob in real...thats sad actually because I would love to see some navy F-35C in colors like they did it on the Tomcats.

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BossGeneral
BossGeneral Nov 16 2012, 8:43am replied:

Adding to what Keksz said here's a picture of the reflective metallic 'stealth' paint under direct sunlight:

Eglin.af.mil

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Timgao929
Timgao929 Nov 16 2012, 9:55am replied:

If it is true, why don't you guys give it silverish/grey colour? Most of the gameplay are focused in day time, and in people's mind, the greyish camo is more associated with US Air Force fighter fleet while black color are usually associated with the dedicated stealth fleet (F-117/B-2).

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phoenix8
phoenix8 Nov 15 2012, 9:38pm says:

You guys are gonna give me a heart attack one of these days. :P Lovely!

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murauder
murauder Nov 16 2012, 12:38am says:

Now I wonder what's going to be the most effective counter besides a malstrom of flak & missles.

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roman9441
roman9441 Nov 16 2012, 8:42pm says:

:) i love it

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Battle8111
Battle8111 Nov 17 2012, 10:38pm says:

I saw this plane fly over my house, lovely module guys and keep on going!

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Keksz Author
Keksz Nov 18 2012, 7:00am replied:

lol module

thanks!

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foxslider
foxslider Dec 10 2012, 10:41am says:

just a suggestion: you guy may need some konwledge of light effect use to make better and smooth looks. also, in my opinion fewer decorative pattern may make the model looks better. to be honest but i have to say that this model looks more like a wooden toy not a steel weapon. again the color of the whole plane especially the cockpit window may still need more consideration( maybe no "grey" or "black grey"is better?)

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foxslider
foxslider Dec 10 2012, 11:19am says:

will you add j-20 or even j-31? that will really be a pleasant surprise!!supersonic speed(also a special effect of sonic boom i see in another excellent mod),stealth and high turn speed(allow the jet to reverse to catch its target again to shoot after passing by with the first shoot) should be the differences between usual jets.

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dhd Creator
dhd Dec 10 2012, 3:39pm replied:

We used to have the J-20 but removed it because its only a prototype. Also zh china has no stealth aircraft.

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ScarriorIII
ScarriorIII Jan 13 2013, 2:24pm says:

Unbelievably awesome. I've always wanted to see our latest aircraft in stealth black, the design that made stealth aircraft so awesome. I'd like to see others in it too, like an F-16.

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Laqueesha
Laqueesha Feb 18 2013, 12:24am says:

I like how the F-35 replaces the F-22 for the aircraft carrier campaign mission, good work.

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Oh god recreating that stealth pattern was so fucking exhausting and difficult...but I guess it was worth it. Time to sit back and relax and wait how long it will take until another mod tries to recreate a realistic F-35A :P

Me and dhd just polished the model. The role as F-117 replacement is still the same.

Eglin AFB
58th Fighter Squadron

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