Christians of Moddb
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This group is exactly what the name implies. A group for people who are Christians. If you're a Christian then please join us. We're a place on ModDB for Christians to gather and talk. It's as simple as that.
(Found this from the Freedom From Atheism Foundation FB page, a page raised in response to the "Freedom From Religion" organization Facebook.com)
We've all heard the claims that Christmas trees are pagan and that we as "intolerant evil Christians" therefore shouldn't use Christmas trees but this is but a myth. The origin of Christmas trees can trace their origins back to Saint Boniface who used a fir tree to establish Christianity in Germany effectively marking the eventual death of Norse Paganism. In all rights then, the Christmas tree is a symbol of Christianity's victory over Norse Paganism despite what the atheist history revisionists would like you to believe (although in fairness, it's not just them but Pagans and some Christians too).
"THE CHRISTMAS TREE
The eighth-century biographer Æddi Stephanus, Saint Boniface (634–709), who was a Christian missionary in Germany, took an axe to an oak tree dedicated to the pagan deity Thor and replaced it with a fir tree, which he stated was a more fitting object of reverence because it pointed to heaven and it had a triangular shape, which he said was symbolic of the Holy Trinity. In the 16th century, the Reformer, Martin Luther added lighted candles to a fir tree, wanting to show Christian worshippers the effects of the wonder of stars twinkling through a forest. This custom spread from the Lutheran Church in Germany to other Christian denominations over time. The green color of the evergreen tree represents the eternal life we get through faith in Christ. The topper, usually a star, represents the Star of Bethlehem that guided the Wise Men to pay homage to our Saviour. The lights on the fir tree remind us that Christ is the Light of the World.
Related article: Christmasarchives.com"
Wow, what are people actually arguing about...it's astonishing how stupid this is t_t
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No one is actually arguing here. This is simply a refutation to a claim made by some people about Christmas trees being pagan therefore meaning that Christians shouldn't use them or something.
And even if they were, I don't see the problem. I find it funny when people bring up the argument of "oh there are pagan traditions in Christmas so you Christians shouldn't celebrate it!"
Everyone can celebrate Christmas. It has gone beyond its original meaning. In a way, it's a nice thing that it's a holiday for everyone now that means so many different things to different people.
Before replying anything here, I did a few quick web searches on the matter. Unsurprisingly, an anti-theist argument crumbles before 10 min or so of web research.
This is bad. Why would it be bad? Think your average internet dweller. Can you imagine that kinda people bothering to do ANY sort of properly thorough research? If they search anything, they just get fed whatever they find in the first page of Google search (a least than efficient way to get unfiltered search results). If you're lucky, they MIGHT check it on Wikipedia.
Here's two of the links I've found:
Saintboniface.org. Boniface Around the World.htm
Catholic.com
Ah for zog's sake, I DETEST modDB's stingy 5 minute limit to edit comments. Here's a tinyurl'd link for the first one because it's silly site with spaces on the url: Tinyurl.com