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Jun 3 2009 Anchor

I have not even finished the class and started looking at everything with a mathematical view. I was laying on grass looking up in a tree canopy and saw nothing but triangles from the branches spiting out the leaves from those and everything built by humans.

Am I nuts or is this normal?

SinKing
SinKing bumps me thread
Jun 3 2009 Anchor

According to Taoism the three shapes that make up the universe are the triangle, the square and the circle. Even though their writings are older than most religions, or ancient philosophy, those monks laid the foundations to how we model anything and how we arrange things in paintings.

There are underlying principles, which may or may not be specific to human perception. If you can see them in everything, good for you. And yes, I felt the same when I first touched a modelling program. You simply start breaking things up into their shapes and end with either of the three primitives.

Conclusion: Taoism is the true religion ;)

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Jun 8 2009 Anchor

Well triangles are pretty much the best shape to build things out of

Edited by: Ryswick17

Jun 8 2009 Anchor

There are people who dedicate their lives to finding mathmatical patterns in nature and solving so called "BIG QUESTIONS" like for example "what shape is the universe"Although some people may find this a waste of free time some people see it as an oppertunity to expand our view of the earth. (and another thing, many institutes offer big cash rewards to those people who solve such "BIG QUESTIONS"

Assaultman67
Assaultman67 Needs a fuckin' title
Jun 25 2009 Anchor

I've always found mathmatics to be extremely enlightening to the workings of practially anything ...

Im taking an electrical engineering class right now, and because ive taken so many math classes i can analyse simple circuitry that is composed of resistors faster via matricies ... problems that used to take me 45 minutes now take me 15 ... screw substitution when you can do a simple rref of a matrix :P ...

Edited by: Assaultman67

Toyoka
Toyoka A closed mouth gathers no feet.
Jun 26 2009 Anchor

I'm a very logical person. Many times I find myself expecting/predicting things to happen, and they do. It's strange, sometimes I dream about things that happen 3 weeks from the present. Most of it is just random Deja Vu. I don't know, maybe I'm psychic? But I never seemed to predict anything major or important, just random little things. But I guess that's it, the littlest of things make the biggest impacts. That, or maybe I'm just delusional from playing games since I was 5 years old.

BLACKMESA_CERVEZA
BLACKMESA_CERVEZA Your most valiant comrade
Jun 27 2009 Anchor

I wouldn’t call you nuts :),

Currently I’ve been taking Life drawing and Artistic anatomy courses, and other than attaining a greater appreciation of the human body (probably due to its complexity); I would have to say that I’ve started to look at people differently, as conglomerate masses composed of geometric shapes, each shape being interdependent of each other, like a grand biological construction (which I guess is what we all are). I’ve been much more analytical on how I observe just about anything or anybody.
My point being, that math alone doesn’t necessarily condition ones perception. At least that’s what I think :P

Jun 29 2009 Anchor

I would say it's perfectly normal.

In fact, it could get worse even if you take statistics, calculus, or some other class that high. Not only will you be looking at the world as it is differently, but you will also be able to predict certain things (within a certain margin of error, of course).

Math can simply be found in everything.

tacoo
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Jun 29 2009 Anchor

Toyoka wrote: I'm a very logical person. Many times I find myself expecting/predicting things to happen, and they do. It's strange, sometimes I dream about things that happen 3 weeks from the present. Most of it is just random Deja Vu. I don't know, maybe I'm psychic? But I never seemed to predict anything major or important, just random little things. But I guess that's it, the littlest of things make the biggest impacts. That, or maybe I'm just delusional from playing games since I was 5 years old.


Brother!

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Jun 29 2009 Anchor

world looks the same to me as before I took any schooling.

I didn't need an overpaid teacher or computer to appreciate things that are out there. little children see shapes in the clouds and appreciate them. Then later in life most people need books, schooling & others backing to appreciate them.

Fools.

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Toyoka
Toyoka A closed mouth gathers no feet.
Jun 30 2009 Anchor

tacoo wrote:

Toyoka wrote: I'm a very logical person. Many times I find myself expecting/predicting things to happen, and they do. It's strange, sometimes I dream about things that happen 3 weeks from the present. Most of it is just random Deja Vu. I don't know, maybe I'm psychic? But I never seemed to predict anything major or important, just random little things. But I guess that's it, the littlest of things make the biggest impacts. That, or maybe I'm just delusional from playing games since I was 5 years old.


Brother!


Christianovich?! Is that you?! :P (sorry, off-topic! XD)

Edited by: Toyoka

Jul 4 2009 Anchor

TheHappyFriar wrote: world looks the same to me as before I took any schooling.

I didn't need an overpaid teacher or computer to appreciate things that are out there. little children see shapes in the clouds and appreciate them. Then later in life most people need books, schooling & others backing to appreciate them.

Fools.


Right, but they only see these basic shapes. With the knowledge we gain, we can learn to appreciate more complex patterns, and even see how nature can resemble fractals at times.

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p0rt
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Jul 4 2009 Anchor

To spend a day looking at clouds without shrooms or lsd. you have to be kind of stoopid, same goes for hills and ocean waves

Edited by: p0rt

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Jul 4 2009 Anchor

p0rt wrote: To spend a day looking at clouds without shrooms or lsd. you have to be kind of stoopid, same goes for hills and ocean waves


Who said anything about spending a whole day? Even a few minutes can help a person better appreciate nature. I don't think anyone in this thread was talking about spending that significant an amount of time...and even if they were, its not so "stoopid" if they were just trying to relax.

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Jul 4 2009 Anchor

Minuit wrote:

Kyogreex wrote: Right, but they only see these basic shapes. With the knowledge we gain, we can learn to appreciate more complex patterns, and even see how nature can resemble fractals at times.


That's quite an elitist statement right there, almost bordering on the arrogant.


I fail to see how that's elitist. Say we exclude higher math. People still gain a deeper appreciation for things as they mature. And different people see different things in different ways; there is nothing wrong with that at all and period. The argument at hand here is that we see look "at the world differently after taking trigonometry or higher." In the same way, a person may see the world differently after dabbling in art. All I was trying to indicate was that in our early years, we do not have the knowledge or life experience to see things in a different way.

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Mobius89
Mobius89 Perennemente perso nei meandri della fantascienza
Jul 5 2009 Anchor

Everyone looks at the world differently after taking a particular course.

I study Geology, and my studies are significantly influencing my way of thinking. I'm learning even more how humanity is not as important as it pretends to be in the general scheme of things. I'm also learning how technology and knowledge do not ensure the survival of a dominating species, since they can even be an obstacle in particular situations.

No views of this kind are elitist until people start considering other views as idiotic and nonsensical. I don't agree with the POV of many mathematicians, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they're a bunch of ignorants and/or people who don't understand anything. The same principle may be applied to mathematicians who analyze Geology. It's mostly a matter of respecting the other POVs without putting our own to a superior level.

Jul 5 2009 Anchor

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Jul 5 2009 Anchor

Mobius89 wrote: It's mostly a matter of respecting the other POVs without putting our own to a superior level.


Indeed. And perhaps by looking at the world in a different way because of these courses, one can needlessly overcomplicate things at times.

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Mobius89
Mobius89 Perennemente perso nei meandri della fantascienza
Jul 5 2009 Anchor

Of course. Thinking too much helps only on rare occasions... most of the times, it can only make things get worse.

Toyoka
Toyoka A closed mouth gathers no feet.
Jul 5 2009 Anchor

Mobius89 wrote: Of course. Thinking too much helps only on rare occasions... most of the times, it can only make things get worse.


Unfortunately that is my problem. I overcomplicated things a lot. Its almost like a disease :|

Edited by: Toyoka

Mobius89
Mobius89 Perennemente perso nei meandri della fantascienza
Jul 5 2009 Anchor
Jul 7 2009 Anchor

From Wikipedia:

"Richard Buckminster “Bucky” Fuller (July 12, 1895 – July 1, 1983) was an American architect, author, designer, futurist, inventor, and visionary.

Throughout his life, Fuller was concerned with the question "Does humanity have a chance to survive lastingly and successfully on planet Earth, and if so, how?" Considering himself an average individual without special monetary means or academic degree, he chose to devote his life to this question, trying to identify what he, as an individual, could do to improve humanity's condition, which large organizations, governments, and private enterprises inherently could not do.

Pursuing this lifelong experiment, Fuller wrote more than thirty books, coining and popularizing terms such as "Spaceship Earth", ephemeralization, and synergetics. He also worked in the development of numerous inventions, chiefly in the fields of design and architecture, the best known of which is the geodesic dome. Carbon molecules known as fullerenes or buckyballs were named for their resemblance to geodesic spheres."

I recommend putting his name into your search engine of choice.

Jul 20 2009 Anchor

Toyoka wrote: I'm a very logical person. Many times I find myself expecting/predicting things to happen, and they do. It's strange, sometimes I dream about things that happen 3 weeks from the present. Most of it is just random Deja Vu. I don't know, maybe I'm psychic? But I never seemed to predict anything major or important, just random little things. But I guess that's it, the littlest of things make the biggest impacts. That, or maybe I'm just delusional from playing games since I was 5 years old.


That my friend is a simple case of false perception. You may predict one out of 100 and then say wow i can predict something while forgetting about the 99 misses. Dont worry though, that is natural, as humans, that would include me, are rather stupid.

Toyoka
Toyoka A closed mouth gathers no feet.
Jul 20 2009 Anchor

I know, it's not something obvious but I do indeed see that it's natural. Unfortunately enough, there is no such thing as a psychic or looking into the future or any of that kind of crap, it is simple trickery and/or acting/luck that makes such things seem real.

Edited by: Toyoka

Jul 27 2009 Anchor

Toyoka wrote: I know, it's not something obvious but I do indeed see that it's natural. Unfortunately enough, there is no such thing as a psychic or looking into the future or any of that kind of crap, it is simple trickery and/or acting/luck that makes such things seem real.


Yup.

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