Greece 431 B.C.

The war between Sparta and Athens involves almost all the greek city-states, split in two opposed alliances:

the Pelopponnesian League and the Delian League .

10 factions:

The Pelopponnesian League

The Delian League

Cretan city-states

Achean city-states

Aetolian city-states

Thessaly

Epirus

Macedonia

Thrace

Persian Satrapies


Features:

-Freelancer,

-Historical characters and lords

-Player can choose if to start the campaign as the really existed ruler of one of these nations

-Sea travelling

-Hundreds of new Items

-The flag of the ruler is the flag of every vassal (also for the player)

-Each faction has special parties' icons changing with the amount of men in the party.

If you are not a king you may choose the icon for your party . If you are king, you may choose the culture, which changes both icons and troops.

-Special icons for player's party depending on the size of the army

-A big fancy new map of the area of interest

-Voice and order sounds

-New companions and new mercenaries

-New troops for each faction

-AOR recruit system for historically accurate cities' hoplites: There will be many hoplites which can be recruited only in their city, for example Argos' Hoplites will be available for the player as special units to recruit with weekly refill only in Argos...But that is not all, as also the AI Lord who is owning Argo will receive Argos Hoplites as part of its reinforcements and the Garrison of Argo will be the only one having Argos Hoplites among its faction's troops. All of this regardless the faction they belong to. To own AOR towns is strategic because the AI Lord who owns it has a stronger mix of troops

-No more training skills: your men and you must fight battles to become veterans

-New scenes

-If you press 'I' while in battle, a bar will appear on the top-left corner, showing the number of soldiers on each side.

-If a leader is defeated in battle, the moral of the army will decrease.

-If you press 'M', you will make a battle cry.

-Battle Formations for player and AI (thanks to Motomataru's codes)

-New map banners' icons fitting the time period (no flapping flag)

-New faces, hair and beards (now good variety to choose)

-Villages and towns' prosperity will have a stronger impact on money (both for player and ai)

-Training skill has disappeared (soldiers become veterans after battles not after training!) at its place a new skill reducing food consumption (very useful because of the big size of Armies (from 300 to 1000 men)

-Spears and shields will not be shown on the back of soldiers when not in use. This for two reasons: the first is that I never liked that. The second is that it would look weird combined with some armours ... and I don't like it even stronger.

- New animations and items

- Animated Horses in city centres (AndyYa codes)

-There are many items, armours, helm, etc. they are often quite rare to be found in market places and often some of them can be found just in some faction (eg Spartan shields just in Saprta's market)

-Report screen, troop tree screen, political map

-Four layers of recruitment: village, Major Polis (ex Town), Polis (ex Castle), AOR

- No flag indicator on friendly troops, you must play "my way"…

- Added buildings to construct in towns which give bonus

- Added enterprises' inefficiency (progressively increasing when you have more than one enterprise of the same kind, so it is better for you to build all the different enterprises rather than multiple enterprises of the same kind). At the same time the enterprises' profitability has been reworked.

- Musicians will play during the feasts (their own lyre music)

- Game options related to difficulty of the game has been removed (no matter what you choose, you will play Sparta as it was meant to be played)

- Totally reworked the behavior of horse archers and horsemen throwing javelins. Now when you order them to charge, they will properly use their ranged weapons until they have ammunitions). I suggest to put ranged horse units in a new group in your battle management, different from cavalry.

- Implemented winter season: in January and in February, in part of the map, the scenes will be covered with snow (check the picture in the ModDB page to see the areas where it occurs).

- Wind will move plants and grass

- Added the option to kill a prisoner lord/ruler (it will cost 100 honor) or to release him (it will give some honor)

- You can secede from your faction when you want (if you own a polis), just sendind your companion to deliver a message to your king. War will break out.

- Disable Companion Complaint option now will also prevent them from leaving your party

- Added the Diplomacy dialog to persuade your king to declare war. It depends on how strong the enemy is, in choosing the right things to say and on the relation level with your king. If there is a truce with that faction he will not accept in any case

Once you are a king you can:

- Talk to your minister by camp menu

-Change your Lords equipment and update their skills

-Your banner will become the banner of all your lords

-Change your faction troops' culture , choosing one of the already existing factions or a special player culture troop tree with customizable equipment and name (Thanks to MitchellD who implemented part of his Custom Troop Tree in this mod).


-Some figures:

  • 10 Factions
  • Over 500 different shields
  • Over 400 armours\tunics
  • 63 Major Poleis
  • 101 Poleis
  • 281 Villages
  • 150 Lords
  • 235 different troops (plus a number of mercenaries)
  • 44 different AOR (area of recruitment) Poleis


and many other features...

etc

Credits:


Renaissance, Hispania 1200 ( by El Xabeo de la Cova, JBL, permission by mikeboix), Custom Troop Tree (by MitchellD), Sands of Faith (thewanderingknight Brytenwalda, Diplomacy, AndyYa, Hoboistice, Baraban, Jaakko Osp Models, Bsapaka Osp Animations, Papa Lazoarou Anim Osp , Fires of War (Antonis9), Motomataru (Formation and AI Kit), Mount&Gladiusv2.0(Llew), AlphaDeltas_Ancient_warriors, Time Golem (TG's Ancien Armoury), Gothic Knight, john Malis, Anthony Schmidt, Exima, Micheal4, Choges Craft Channel, rgcotl, Adzan, vighols05, persnetto, Adriano.Fontoura.Fraga, James B., Daniel P., Davata, PantherOne, Vasilis l., SonKidd, Brian Erbes, mr.master Wee'd Helmets, ZarthasOSP, Byron Salgado, Kraut and Tea, BIGGER Kentucky James XXL (ottoman civil clothes), Mark7 Osp Crusader Way to Expiation pack,Aquil Osp, Virakes's Male and female face compilation, Jaymosuke Osp Hair, Aksyonov, robotninjabread, Spak Osp, nagesh111, atarki, Josuè Borghi, GSXNet, 3dhdscan, Dangry, Francesco Coldesina, MCG3d, Centre for Gis & Geomatics, Lucio Arseni, Owlish Media, Rigsters, Geoffry Marchal, Gorndon N., TooManyDemons, Aniket Saxena, sebasxpm, Drudru the Migniscisiscent Osp. LeGrandmaster, Mordachai, lexferreira89


Many credits may be missing because they are already inside the mods up here. Please send me a message if you see something you want to be pointed out in the credit session.

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IF THE LINES THAT YOU HAVE READ

MORE OR LESS DEPICT YOU,

PLEASE DON'T PLAY SPARTA:

You would not like it and what is worse, you will probably start annoying/harassing me

THANKS FOR COLLABORATION

















IMPORTANT:

READ THE PDF File in the mod's folder, named "CONFIGURATE WARBAND FOR SPARTA" to set Warband in the right way to play this mod

SPARTA IS DEMANDING AND THE CORRECT SETTING IS NECESSARY TO LIVE A GREAT EXPERIENCE





For a tough immersive game ( for experienced warband players)
- start with realistic saving
- don’t have more than two companions in the party
- once you become king don’t give a fief to your companions, lords must be recruited from the lords in the game
- it is harder if you don’t start as a king obviously (but both campaigns should be tried in my opinion)
- obviously don’t cheat




PERSONAL COMMENT:

People are not used to fight with spears in Mount and Blade. Basically in all the mods and also native there are horse’ lances for charge and pikes for infantry. One hand weapons and two hands weapons are the most common and effective choice for infantry.

But this mod is set in the ancient Greece and at that time spear and shields were the main choice for heavy infantry. Swords were far less effective in phalanx formations and were used when the spear got broken or lost.

I understand YOU PLAYERS find this way strange and not as effective as a nice bastardsword... but that it is.
Also the balance in hit points of weapons and armours/helms it is made like this for two main reasons:
1)The weapons’ hit must take into account a fairly long enough battle time between two soldiers, some soldiers wore bronze armours, some just a tunic. And formatons can’t loose half of the men in a couple of seconds becouse of overpowered spears (as someone is suggesting).
2) armours, shields, weapons, are beautiful in this mod (also people who seem they didn’t like Sparta have admitted that point) and in the customize your army feature, as long as in choosing your gears for yourself and your companions during the campaign, I wanted you to choose what you like morstly or what is related to the polis you want to rule...
I did not want to put a sort of coat of arm with such better hit points that you would be forced to choose it if you want the best protection.



This mod is mainly Greek factions oriented and at that time greek generals were on foot with their men.
I strongly raccomend not to play on horseback unless you play as a Persian, Makedonian, Thracian or Thessalian (if you play as these factions'king you will already get the horse and the riding skills for it on purpose)

Battle Formations:

This mod has complex formations feature. If you start your battle with the Start Battle Holding Position choice, your men will automatically adopt formations at the battle start, shield wall for infantry, line for archer and wedge formation for cavalry. In the Party menu, you may also assign some troops to other groups as in native (and by camp menu options you can put yourself in one of this groups at the beginning of the battle). Remember that soldiers equipped with ranged weapons will be considered archers and will adopt line formation, unless you put them in the group 1, which is the default infantry group. During the battle, pressing the F1 hold position flag on the enemy, you can order your phalanx to attack the enemy's group you choose. They will advance to it and attack it keeping formation. Pressing F4 you have the formations' screen where you can choose among some formation types. If you select a group, move it to a position (for example on your left 20 m ahead) and press F2, you can memorize how that group will be placed compared to your position when every battle starts

Read This Part:


I made Sparta following a clear idea of how it should be. My goal was to make a mod which fits my personal taste, very challenging, with a different pace compared to other mods like my previous one. Sparta should be played thinking about a long chess match. You obviously will find hard to conquer a town and even harder to keep it once you become a rebel. Even earlier you will struggle to survive as adventurer. Parties' size are big, sometimes huge, and for that reasons battles are longer than usual. You must start taking care of your life (in-game) as if you die in battles AI will take the command of your army (even if sometimes it may play better than you). Above all in sieges you must remember that once you are too wound to fight, automatically computing battle will make you lose the fief quite easily.

In any case the point is this:

Sparta is like it is because I made it like this. It matches my original intentions. I am not going to change or add any feature. Apart from a massive work on scenes, there is just a narrow room for changes that I will do to adjust something (if I think it will be needed).

You can feel free to post new ideas or suggestions, of course, but it is very likely I will not adopt them if they involve changes beyond that point. I warn now sensitive people not to feel upset if I turn down the suggestions they make.



THIS MOD IS MEANT FOR VETERAN PLAYERS OF WARBAND


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gustavoslamarque
gustavoslamarque

How the f@ck I'm supposed to beat an army of hoplites when they kill me - and my soldiers - in 2 hits? I read all the discussion about the difficulty, and yeah, the ones that are arguing that the option to choose the difficulty, and IA of the game are right! Why not just upload two versions of the mod? One for the "pro-gamers" and one for the "noobs" as the creator says? It's really hard to do it? I think not... The mod has a LOT of potential to be one of the bests, but only if we could have that liberty. (To the creator: With all respect, I saw your video tutorial on "How to duel with lances" and for someone who says he is a pro, you should have cut the part of you losing on the video XD). I'll not remove my 10/10 vote for the mod, but it makes me really sad that I'll have to abandon my 200 days campaign because instead of giving me fun and entertainment, it gives me a chronic headache...

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zedpaolo Creator
zedpaolo

Hi,
I didn’t remove me losing in that video because I wanted to show real things, as I wrote, that the player can become a hero but not a superhero in this mod. Later in the game, in battles I kill an average of 20 men, mainly hoplites, in sieges (defending) up to 50 men.

Yes, the mod is made for veterans and it wants to make late game interesting. If you are new at warband you don’t know how many campaign players leave undone in the late games because they feel that there is nothing challanging anymore. In vanilla and in so many mods, once you reach level 30-35 you are able to reverse battles alone and to conquer cities and factions alone. All that overpower is so boring.

About the rating of Sparta, people already enjoyed downvoting it, so, to me, that score has lost any sense and importance.
I realize that the majority of the player community is not ready for this mod, it doesn’t like to have hard time in a game and it is son of the society of nowadays which suggests that you must have all and now with the minimum effort. This mod is for that little left part of the community which likes challanging games

PS did you read the in-game tips? That helps if you have difficulties to get on the road

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Guest
Guest

Hi! Will u move this mod to Bannerlord?

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zedpaolo Creator
zedpaolo

At the moment I don’t plan to mod Bannerlord

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PrussianGrenadier99
PrussianGrenadier99

I really love this mod so far, thanks a lot for all of your time and work. I have a question concerning some of the smaller city-state factions in the game. I joined the Achean city-states early game and now we're getting hit hard by the way bigger Pelopponnesian League. Our Marshall doesn't really do anything but sit around Patrai. Any tips for surviving as part of a city-state faction?

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zedpaolo Creator
zedpaolo

The marshall’s behavior depends also on his temper, not all the characters act the same way.
If you are quite early game, then your actions can’t be enough to change things against Sparta. The best asset you have is the possibility to make battles conclude when you play them. Use it to make your lords win: join battles, sieges when the odds are very good, retreat otherwise.
You may have noticed that when an ai assault is interrupted by the upcoming enemy forces, there are several different battles involving different lords. Fight the one with the best odds, once you won, those ally lords will join another battle and you can choose one more to fight and so on. This way you can fight Spartan army piece by piece

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gustavoslamarque
gustavoslamarque

My situation is: - I'm a vassal to the Cretan Polis and i'm building my army, right to rule, and relatonship with the vassals to eventually rebel against that decadent and coward king. When I capture him, i'm considering killing him, but will this lower my relationship with the past-vassals of his? (That will be mine when i do it)

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zedpaolo Creator
zedpaolo

If you rebel to your ruler you will be at war against his faction.
If you capture and kill the leader, you will lose some points of relation with the lords of that faction, but what is worse, you will lose 100 honor. With negative honor the campaign is almost impossible, so you should already have at least 100 honor before killing anybody.
In any case, after you kill the ruler, the best lord of that faction will become the new ruler, they will not choose you, so it is pointless.
You chose a faction which will start declaring wars very late, if it ever does. My suggestion is to play as cretan just if you play as a king or it may be boring.

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gustavoslamarque
gustavoslamarque

How can I recruit more hoplites from the polis? I recruited them one time, but after that, I can't see the option anymore.

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zedpaolo Creator
zedpaolo

If you are talking of AOR troops, after a week the town will let you recruit again, if you have money and room in your party size

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gustavoslamarque
gustavoslamarque

Yeah, that's the thing, i'm already at 8 weeks in the game, and I need to recruit more of the AOR troops, but when I get to a polis (let's say Knossos, because i'm with the cretans), the only option to recruit for me is the normal ones, not the hoplites, and yes, I have space in my party.

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gustavoslamarque
gustavoslamarque

(I fixed the problem)

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Awesome mod!Excellent gameplay,best ancient Greece mod i ever seen here, alot of hours playing its simply amazing! AI its incredible! 10/10 for sure!

Thanks for mod devs i wish the best continues, simply amazing!

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