Star Trek: Armada III begins with the first stirrings of the Dominion War and allows players to take command of five unique factions, the United Federation of Planets, the Klingon Empire, the Romulan Star Empire, the Cardassian Union/Dominion Alliance, and the Borg Collective. Explore strange new worlds, seek out new life and new civilizations, and boldly go where no one has gone before.

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Soveriegn
Soveriegn - - 21 comments

Here Fishy Fishy lol Always thought Cardassian ships looked like flying fish in space. Kinda strange honestly.

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Sun_Xiaomei
Sun_Xiaomei - - 478 comments

Although I wonder why would anyone even bother giving shape to ships, since space is vacuum, and in vacuum shapes have no matter at all. Neither do engines.

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TheBleachDoctor
TheBleachDoctor - - 938 comments

If you're going to go flitting around the galaxy, you might as well do so in style.

The Borg don't care for style.

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tepegoz
tepegoz - - 147 comments

If a Giant Cube isn't style, I don't know what is.

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Sun_Xiaomei
Sun_Xiaomei - - 478 comments

No, a giant cube would be efficiency, not style. On the other hand, many Starfleet ships could be called stylish, as could D'deridex warbirds.

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Sun_Xiaomei
Sun_Xiaomei - - 478 comments

No, all they care about is knowledge, although they show it in a VERY weird way. And that is why species 8472 is efficient against the Borg: they have no knowledge about their strengths and weaknesses; thus, they cannot adapt their tactics and strategies to counter them. If the Borg has ANY kind of tactics and strategies, that is. I think that Zhuge Liang would be impressed by them.

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tepegoz
tepegoz - - 147 comments

I disagree. I always thought the main aim of the Borg was perfection. Knowledge, assimilation is just a way to achieve that.

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Sun_Xiaomei
Sun_Xiaomei - - 478 comments

If you remember a Star Trek film(forgot the name) in which Kirk and his crew must travel to the past in order to prevent destruction by some unknown entity, which was known as V'ger cloud, and which was seeking some sound(I think) which was unique to a type of whale(or some other aquatic animal) extinct in 23rd century. If you recall, V'ger cloud, or Voyager probe considered lost, came from Delta quadrant, which is to the best of my knowledge the home to Borg homeworld. And if I'm not mistaken, Voyager probe "gave birth", so to speak, to the Borg, which began doing exactly what V'ger taught them: gather knowledge. Although, I remember that when Janeway found a culture which made a string or cluster of Omega particles, Seven said that particle 010, which was how the Borg referred to Omega particle, was everything the Borg strived for.

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tepegoz
tepegoz - - 147 comments

Whoa whoa whoa whoa. Last time I checked, V'ger giving birth to the Borg is not Canon. Though I like the theory.However, as you have said, the Omega molecule exist in a flawless state. Seven of Nine herself stated:
"For 3.2 seconds, I ... saw perfection."
after seeing the Omega molecules stabilize. It is possible that the Borg started out as knowledge-seekers and then started aiming for perfection. The two are not mutually incompatible. Knowledge of the Unique properties of every species and bringing them together is perfection. At least to the Borg. Besides, when you've assimilated everyone in the Universe, who'll be left to say "No you are not perfect".

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Sun_Xiaomei
Sun_Xiaomei - - 478 comments

A good point. And I think that the Borg will not get that knowledge about perfection, thanks to species 8472. And that's a good thing, wouldn't you agree? As for V'ger, quite a few details are lost to me, but someone who can remember more details about that film could probably shed some light on that matter.

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tepegoz
tepegoz - - 147 comments

Yeah, it's been some time since I've watched Star Trek: The Motion Picture... Also, it is possible for The Borg to assimilate a new species or technology and adapt to Species 8472. Evolution can only stay ahead of technology for so long. Not to mention they can just assimilate those nanobot torpedoes Voyager probably gave to Starfleet when they got back home. Lots of options.

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Sun_Xiaomei
Sun_Xiaomei - - 478 comments

True, if they assimilate a race that has the knowledge about species 8472, they could learn how to kill them. Problem is, I don't know anyone, aside Voyager's crew, that has seen one of those... creatures and survived to tell the tale. And Starfleet DEFINITELY won't tell the Borg how to survive their attacks.
True, Voyager transferred the knowledge about those torpedoes to the Starfleet, and that knowledge made them the dominant race in the Alpha quadrant, and with the death of the Borg Queen, the Borg is not such a threat as it was before. Yes, they still have their transwarp network, but without leadership, they are like a fly without its head. So what you said is highly improbable.

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tepegoz
tepegoz - - 147 comments

They will adapt eventually. Will probably take a few decades though, but the pathogen will be eliminated and the Borg collective re-established. Who knows, they might even have more queens. One for every Quadrant.

So, when you have an empire consisting of tens of thousands of vessels and structures, you will take care of any problem at some point. No matter how disoriented your drones are.

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Sun_Xiaomei
Sun_Xiaomei - - 478 comments

One Queen for every quadrant?! Hmmmmmmmm... yes, it's possible, as is having rogue drones within the Collective itself. I remember that there was an episode when several former drones somehow came to Voyager, only to find Seven, who was the reason that they were reintegrated into the Collective when they tried to escape, among its crew. However, having a queen for every quadrant would be more stretching than, say, having several less-evolved queens, but with greater free will than other drones. Subordinates, one might call them. If you read Star Wars books after the Battle of Endor, you would know that after death of both Anakin and the Emperor, many warlords tried to restore the Empire to its fullest glory. "Many tried. None succeeded." Such a case would also be possible for the Collective.

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tepegoz
tepegoz - - 147 comments

Right. Except Queens are a little more efficent and organized than a bunch of warlords fighting for Control over the Empire. No matter how many queens/subordinates there are in the collective, they will all be aiming for the same goal.

In the end, like you have said, there will be rogue borg vessels manned by drones separated from the collective. Borg space will fall into chaos. Maybe the Borg Cooperative might even step in and take over the old collective.

I am happy that we are agreed. (Even if the discussion detracted from the original point.)

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Sun_Xiaomei
Sun_Xiaomei - - 478 comments

Yes, and I hope that no one will complain about it.

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Briaya
Briaya - - 98 comments

Funny thing is while space in a vacuum, apparently sub-space is total beast of it's own as you have to build things just right for the warp shell created by the nacelle to work right. And yeah...you got to look cool.

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Sun_Xiaomei
Sun_Xiaomei - - 478 comments

Considering what you said, and combined with my(limited, enhanced by logic) knowledge of Star Trek warp theory, yes, you are right. Although then I wonder how the hell does a cube achieve higher warp speeds than all of the Starfleet, Romulan, Dominion and Klingon ships, considering that the latter are more adapted to travel faster than cubes. Hmmmmmmm... perhaps the Borg had found some knowledge from one of the countless races they assimilated about how to adapt their ships to travel faster regardless of the shape of the ship. Not to mention their transwarp conduits, which is how captain Janeway, with the help of her future self, managed to come back from Delta quadrant all the way to Solar system. Have you seen anything like that for Starfleet, Romulans and Klingons?

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Vrelk
Vrelk - - 19 comments

So... Wild guess, the Cardie titan is the Hutet ?

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Soveriegn
Soveriegn - - 21 comments

Seems I started something with my fish comment lol

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ThotWen
ThotWen - - 75 comments

Great looking Keldon class!

Looks like it was taken right out of "Defiant".

Great work.

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A show of the flag on some of the ship in the second order, which I Gul Dukat personally command. (Showing Galor-class Cruiser, Keldon-class Battleship, Tonga-class Support Cruiser, Norin-class Support Cruiser, Rasilak-class Frigate and Hideki-class Scout)