Our representation of Halo's iconic space combat in the Homeworld 2 engine, which puts the player in command of some of the most powerful weapons fielded by the UNSC and Covenant and to provide a balanced and competitive experience.
ONI Stealth Prowler
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omg
thats ugly
and i wouldnt call it too stealthy either
that huge wing thingy could let done all the stealth protocals
stealth means sleek not huge sticky out bits
The shape of the prowler is fine mendez. I suggest you read the ghosts of onyx and you will find that yes they are sleak but made to hide in SPACE. there is a difference between air and our sky and the vacum of space. Not only can you not see anything but you cant use your standard sonar eather. Our tecnologys now would be like a baybes play toy in the halo universe. and not to mention that you can have different types of ships. Like the UNSC medical ship in the ghosts of onyx, its basically two largerships spliced together and then added a garden it looks like a pill thats broken half way. Does that look like the pillar of Autumn?
This is my favorite ship.
Lut.Mendez,
Stealth is based on sensor disruption and diffusing, NOT on visual recognition. No matter what shape it is, if you can visually see it, you can see it, You can't change that.
The "Wing" houses additional sensor-based equipment that, with the added space between equipment and center of mass, allows better "cloaking" capabilities.
By Fire and Flood,
NinjaTheory
Indeed, in our modern day world, stealth is sleek and sleek is stealth essentially. This is because the radar or w/e just bounces off the shape of the stealth plane.
However, this is in the future and in modern space.
Sensors are much more advanced and having a sleek shape doesn't have to do with anything anymore.
and now, u can refer to the post above :D
uh huh
space = better stealth
uh since when
and im sure there are referencies in the books to prowlers bein sleek
ur mods canon right
and look at the ships u do see
frigate (inamber clad) flatbase vertical front just for the MAC (strange second beam as frigates only have 1 MAC and probly only this design because of its size its tiny)
halcyon vertical design
marathon vertical design
longsword horizontal design
so why go have a strange lookin stealth ship
a horizontal only design makes more sense for stealth and would provide actual room for a bridge as ur design seems to be missin that key area and unless its about 700 metres long there is no room (UNSC bridges always bottom forward) where that huge hole in ur design is
oh and sleek design does come into it the less surface to reflect sensors the better if u can level ur ship which ever way it is parrallel to the ship scanning then less sensor echoes or watever will hit u urs couldnt possibly do that and at some point reflect a signal off the hull twice doubling the chance of bein exposed its all simple
seriously who drew that who doesnt know screw all about stealth
UNSC use stealth protocols AND stealth material (mentioned in first strike when they find the rebel asteroid base) the less u use the cheaper the ship is and we all know the less u spend on a ship means u have more money to build other ships and ur ship increases the amount ud have to use simple bloody logic
Lut.Mendez,
Since you seem to lack proper etiquette when it comes to paragraphs, I have only this to say:
Please reserve judgment until the ship is modeled. And in addition, Join the forums to discuss these things, since most of the team doesn't check/reply to comments on this page.
By Fire and Flood,
NinjaTheory
Lut, you're pretty right, we've recognised that some of the ship concepts are pointing more towards HW2 vagyr style rather than UNSC blocky style, but that's why it's concept art, i assure you when these concepts are modeled [As i'm the modeler] UNSC traits will be incorportated in
Well, you look at the longsword fighter, and it doesn't look that blocky at all, this just has the horizontal hull and vertical tail reversed.
Perhaps you should take into account the designs of modern day stealth bombers and their radar diffraction designs and techniques?
Overall, I think it looks pretty good; I see no problem with it as Lut.Mendez apparently does.
every race has a basic design and thats the problem (every sci fi genre has this)
covie are smooth sleek killers with a sort of whale headed front
UNSC are more industrial looking the ship is built to do wat it does no extra fancy **** no weird designs
if u lined this up inbetween inamber clad and the pillar of autumn it would look out of place
hmm, y'know i just did that....and i have to say it looks pretty damned good
An f22 raptor looks nothing like an Abrams, similarly, a stelath bomber looks nothing like a raptor.
The Spirit of Fire also, looks nothing like a halcyon, frigate, or marathon, and would look out of place in a comparison
If you put a concept of planned stealth ships most navies are considering today next to a modern day destroyer or carrier, it'll look out of place too.
Onto your previous argument about a horizontal design, what happens when an enemy ship is ABOVE the prowler then? there's a much bigger chance an enemy ship will be above it than next to it when attacking a world.
The bridge design is also null, if the bridge design followed suit with other ships, it'd be a major flaw in it's stealth design, because the open windows in the bridge fail. It'd display different thermals to the rest of the ship, and all the electronics in the bridge would be shining out of it allowing it to be spotted, the bridge is much more likely to be deep inside the ship because there's no real advantage of having the bridge mounted on the front exposed..seeing as they rely on cameras for the displays anyway
When it comes to specialised ships such as the prowler or any stealth ship, cheapness ISN'T an issue..they're not meant to be mass produced ships of the line, they're meant to have all the latest expensive gadgets, coatings and sensor suites to allow them to do their job, you obviously didn't think that through.
Now, if you plan on replying, please do so at our forums rather than here
this is ONI, not basic UNSC. I mean, they use covie weapons!!
No they don't. There's no actual source for that rumour on halopedia...Especially the part where it used/still says 12 prowlers can take down an AC in a fair fight. Even though prowlers are unarmed...
prowler carry mines so they could swarm it with mines
Its one of my fav too, the Prowler and the wolf clad are my fav. How did you get so good at drawing?
This is an awesome concept, I especially like the front end!
May I also make a suggestion? If we were to look at this from an ultra-realistic point of view (yes, yes, I know, it's a sci-fi, lemme get to the point =P) then there is no stealth in space! Not because of radar etc. but because space is so unimaginably empty, anything that so much as hits its manouvering thrusters is gonna get spotted. The main engines of the Space Shuttle could technically get detected past the orbit of Pluto!
Now, don't get me wrong, this isn't me saying it's useless - I'm taking this somewhere. Stealth ships am teh awesome, so this is just to try and make it more believable.
And this whole rambling comes down to: Extended engine baffles. A tiny detail but things like that really help. Those would mask the thermal emmisions of the engines on board the prowler, making it less detectable. Unless it uses magic reactionless drives; then there aren't any issues =P
I know it's only a concept, but I thought I'd mention it.
(P.S This mod looks H'AMAZING.)