Release VIII Thread - Command & Conquer: Tiberian History mod for C&C3: Tiberium Wars

Found a little bug with Nod Apache

its upgrade (unguided missile pods) is shown in huge-ass letters.

other than that it works like a charm,thank you Madin!

P.S. I think it does not deserve a hotfix,but still it gets into a sight^^

maybe you can tell on how to change it myself?

D.Va-N wrote:

Found a little bug with Nod Apache

its upgrade (unguided missile pods) is shown in huge-ass letters.

other than that it works like a charm,thank you Madin!

P.S. I think it does not deserve a hotfix,but still it gets into a sight^^

maybe you can tell on how to change it myself?

Thanks, I will have to ask around, because I do not know why that happens.

OK now I know and I have fixed it!
Since this is just a text fix, I might upload another file.

Edited by: Madin

Also there is a little error in a description of hunter-seeker upgrade (purcasingh instead of purchasing:P

And is there any way on making hunter-seeker Orcas to use only its minigun while combating infantry (cuz they are wasting their rocket loadout),but I guess not and they are tied together

D.Va-N wrote:

Also there is a little error in a description of hunter-seeker upgrade (purcasingh instead of purchasing:P
....

And is there any way on making hunter-seeker Orcas to use only its minigun while combating infantry (cuz they are wasting their rocket loadout),but I guess not and they are tied together

There is a way, but I do not like the solution, so I will leave it as it is. The Tiberium wars weapon code is not very good (at all).

can you plz at least describe this solution? (and btw I dunno why such thing happened cuz according to Release VII it was pretty good),weird...

Also sawn those Chem.Warriors ported by Black_Drakon from Renegade and daaaaamn,looks awesome! (dunno why you dont want to implement them:\ , yeah-yeah they will be similiar to Saboteurs,but still it would be pretty cool)

Thank you for your replies

P.S. Do you need a hand with testing your builds to iron out different bugs and mistypos?

D.Va-N wrote:

can you plz at least describe this solution? (and btw I dunno why such thing happened cuz according to Release VII it was pretty good),weird...
I do not see the point.

Also sawn those Chem.Warriors ported by Black_Drakon from Renegade and daaaaamn,looks awesome! (dunno why you dont want to implement them:\ , yeah-yeah they will be similar to Saboteurs,but still it would be pretty cool)

Thank you for your replies

P.S. Do you need a hand with testing your builds to iron out different bugs and mistypos?

Some mistake will always get through regardless.

Well,I thought that you would share,whatcha found about this weird thing with apache,heh

Well,your bet

If you will need smth,I can give you a hand^^

Oh,almost forgot:D

is there any way on how to obtain this shiny Mammoth MK.IV without railguns? (Havent seen a crawler btw) its pretty rare to find it in a crate^^

Also I saw some models of cyborgs made by Black_Drakon,maybe you can use them in Release 9

and what about a Crawler overall? (does it have any special units?)

And sorry,just wondering about it all:p

D.Va-N wrote:

Well,I thought that you would share,whatcha found about this weird thing with apache,heh

Well,your bet

If you will need smth,I can give you a hand^^

Oh,almost forgot:D

is there any way on how to obtain this shiny Mammoth MK.IV without railguns? (Havent seen a crawler btw) its pretty rare to find it in a crate^^

Also I saw some models of cyborgs made by Black_Drakon,maybe you can use them in Release 9

and what about a Crawler overall? (does it have any special units?)

And sorry,just wondering about it all:p

This is no longer bug or glitch reporting. There will not be a release 9 (I will probably make a status update within a month or so).

Do you mean that this is the end of Tiberian History?

D.Va-N wrote:

Do you mean that this is the end of Tiberian History?

Things will be clearer when I do the update.

Heyo,Madin'

Well,found a little bug with a Nod Warfactory (when it is destroyed,there is a blank texture inside of its ruins)

Also,it would make more sense if the name of a black hand squad would be a Flame Trooper Squad instead of a Flamethrower

And lastly found a little mistake with a description of chemical warriors (1. Their heroic ability is not mentioned and 2.In the description of a Demo Charge they are called Flame Troopers,instead of chemical ones)

Thats all,everything else works like a charm^^

Dunno if you will update the mod again,cuz this things are not that important,but still it catches an eye

D.Va-N wrote:

Heyo,Madin'

Well,found a little bug with a Nod Warfactory (when it is destroyed,there is a blank texture inside of its ruins)
There is no texture for it.

Also,it would make more sense if the name of a black hand squad would be a Flame Trooper Squad instead of a Flamethrower
Maybe.

And lastly found a little mistake with a description of chemical warriors (1. Their heroic ability is not mentioned and 2.In the description of a Demo Charge they are called Flame Troopers,instead of chemical ones)
Chemical warriors do not have a heroic ability, They are using the Flamethrowers commands (which is a mistake).

Thats all,everything else works like a charm^^

Dunno if you will update the mod again,cuz this things are not that important,but still it catches an eye

Hmmmm,still I haven't seen that bug with WF at 7.00 and previous for example.

oh,and almost forgot: 1.I still insist on renaming the new Mammoth Tank to Mammoth MK.IV,so there won't be a confusion

P.S. Dunno if this is a bug,but those MK.IV's called-in via drop ability and those,produced by crawler are separate units (I mean when I doubleclick on them,it will choose only those produced from Crawler or Called-in and vice-versa

Thanks for your attention,it's great that I can share my opinion and also help you to iron out those little thingies:P

Hey,uhm sorry,are you there?

Found another one,with an upgrades for GDI Orca's

The requirements for those upgrades show that Armory is needed,but in fact they require a Tech Center to be built

D.Va-N wrote:

Hmmmm,still I haven't seen that bug with WF at 7.00 and previous for example.

oh,and almost forgot: 1.I still insist on renaming the new Mammoth Tank to Mammoth MK.IV,so there won't be a confusion
There is no confusion, they are both Mammoths, and they look very different.

P.S. Dunno if this is a bug,but those MK.IV's called-in via drop ability and those,produced by crawler are separate units (I mean when I doubleclick on them,it will choose only those produced from Crawler or Called-in and vice-versa
They are separate objects. I do not know if this can be fixed.

Thanks for your attention,it's great that I can share my opinion and also help you to iron out those little thingies:P

Hey,uhm sorry,are you there?

Found another one,with an upgrades for GDI Orca's

The requirements for those upgrades show that Armory is needed,but in fact they require a Tech Center to be built
The tech center object id is 'GDIArmory'. The code is correctly using the id, and not the name. Blame EALA for changing the names, but keeping the same object id. Nothing can be done about this.

Ever since the latest update (8.01), i've been getting excessive E_FAIL errors. Some maps it happens guaranteed every time, others are dice-roll, some will go for a while and potentially crash later, and few will actually run stable. This is definitely my favourite C&C3 mod, and i can't seem to work this problem out. It doesn't happen on any other mods.

DxDiag for specs:
Pastebin.com
(shows the appcrashes at the bottom)

Edited by: GenesisAria

If it is definitely only happening on this mod, then the first thing that I would try is to delete the "Last Replay.CNC3Replay" that is typically found in your "Command & Conquer 3 Tiberium Wars\Replays" folder. This file can cause strange issues, and deleting it has worked in the past for me (the game will automatically make a new version of this file the first time that you play a skirmish game that ends in any fashion).

Your PC is obviously more than good enough to play this mod, I am just wondering if you use a large address aware patch to play Tiberium wars? (after all Tiberium wars is a 32bit program). I only have a 32bit computer, so I do not know much about this kind of patch, but with every mod release the mod uses more memory, and with the memory limits of a 32bit program, I can imagine that it might become an issue.

Since you say that it is only happening on my mod that is all I can think of for now. If the issues persist, then if you give me the name of a map that you are having big issues on, I can test it.
Please note that it is vital that you are not using any trainers or extra add-ons such as the New experience mod, or the Chrono shaders add-on (this is purely because I do not use these add-ons, so I cannot account for what they might do).

Definitely LAA'd it. This is the same copy i've had of C&C3 for years and years, over several PC rebuilds lol. LAA is because there is some wonky limiting factors in memory usage for programs - a 32bit executable can only use up to 4GB of VRAM+system RAM, LAA lets it push it to the limit, but it can still crash with out of memory, which is unlike most later 32bit games like in unreal3 (where it starts repeatedly dumping memory and re-loading it when it hit the max). yikes, you're not using 64-bit? That's actually more restrictive than you think; i'd just torrent a 64bit OS (even if you're an XP-lover, there's 64bit WinXP too).

I was using Chronoshaders, so i'll try taking that off. The cheathappens trainer didn't seem to make any difference on or off.

Edit: I get the error on Abandoned Rails (every time, regardless), and most if not all TALON maps (almost always). Disabling chronoshaders made the errors more often give out of memory than e_fail (granted talon maps out of memory a lot on any mod really, but i got e_fail on the talon map when i used to get out of memory, and out of memory on the rails map when i used to get e_fail). I have pretty much every map i could find on the net, including ones i've made or modified and ones gotten from online play from others, and a majority of them have issues since this update. Back in 7.0 and prior, this problem did not exist.

btw: when i get out of memory, it's not actually using even close to the 4GB total.

Edited by: GenesisAria

I will ask if anyone else is having increased crash issues. Since you say that it is only happening with this mod, have you uninstalled it, re-downloaded the mod, and then installed it fresh? Have you got rid of any replays associated with the mod? (you never mentioned if you did).

The thing is that the SAGE engine is crap, and is notorious for these kinds of crashes. You just got lucky in the past (I did too until I changed computer). It can be caused by a large number of things, none of which make any sense. And because you have had no issues for so long, I doubt that you would want to try the more extreme fix attempts, especially because it might not work.

I have a map that consistently would lead to memory crashes (the 'Lacuna River' map), and in the end I just had to accept that it was a map that caused memory crashes. I am not a map maker, so I do not know why, but that is a map that always causes issues for me.

It is possible that because the Tiberian history mod uses a lot more texture ram then Tiberium wars (not sure about other mods), that the issue is legit. Because I have a much smaller 4:3 1280x1024 display (ancient PC!), the SAGE engine is not getting as stressed as it is with your larger resolution?
I think that at the base it is an issue of the SAGE engine not being very good.

It's been a while, but it doesn't crash on my laptop, i don't have my desktop pc to do more testing atm. I got a new GPU at a similar time, though the crashes mainly only happened in your mod. It's possible something in your mod hates the RX-480.

GenesisAria wrote:

It's been a while, but it doesn't crash on my laptop, i don't have my desktop pc to do more testing atm. I got a new GPU at a similar time, though the crashes mainly only happened in your mod. It's possible something in your mod hates the RX-480.

As long as you get to play the mod in peace, I am happy!

Hello there, I found a bug with the MRLS and the Sidam.

Those vehicles can't enter the V35 0x carrier, even though they can call one. The carriers aren't the problem (if the MRLS or Sidam call the carrier, any other carrier-capable vehicle can get picked up without any problems). The same result happened after several tests.

Hello there, I found a bug with the MRLS and the Sidam.

Those vehicles can't enter the V35 0x carrier, even though they can call one. The carriers aren't the problem (if the MRLS or Sidam call the carrier, any other carrier-capable vehicle can get picked up without any problems). The same result happened after several tests.

Thank you for your report!

I knew about the Sidam due to a report by another player, but I was unaware of the MRLS having the same issue.

Chemical Warriors have no decal when selected and also they are using the heroic ability of flametrooper squad, while they have no heroics

D.Va-N wrote:

Chemical Warriors have no decal when selected and also they are using the heroic ability of flametrooper squad, while they have no heroics

Thanks for the report!

I know about the Chemical warriors using the Heroic Flametroopers ability, and I will check out the decal issue.

Oh, heyo again, also I've spotted that some NOD units have in their description (for example apache helicopter) that it (requires tech lab), while most units just go with Blue Tib Mix (Tech lab), just a misc inconsistency, but I think that descriptions should be unified.

Also NOD Steach Chinook does not have a tooltip that it has an ability that its stealthed (other stealth units do have it).

Blue Tib Mix upgrade does not state that it also affects Tib Seed (I know that is stated on Tib Seed support power, but still)

Elite Cadre does not state that it has a Tiberium-Proof armor.

Forgotten Marauders do not have a tooltip that they are can be healed by tiberium, immune to tiberium and also stealthed in tiberium.

SAM Site has no visual sign that its upgraded with blue tib and also can GDI infantry (Rifleman, Grenadiers and Rocket Squad) have a visual details of being upgraded with Composite armor?

Zone Troopers/Zone Raiders and chemical warriors do not have a tooltip that they are immune to tiberium.

GDI Tech Center says that it allows Air strike to be called-in, but in-game its called Hornet Strike.

Surveyors abilities do not state that its able to provide repairs when unpacked.

Space Command Uplink does not have a rocket with steam.

Raider buggys and attack bugs still use vanilla TW formations.

Scrin Reaper Tripod does not show a tiberium convertors after being upgraded.


*****NOD Flamethrower should be renamed to smth like Flametrooper Squad or smth like that and Raider buggys cameo shows both driver and gunner in it, can the second guy be added?

Edited by: D.Va-N