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Today I was busy for the most of the day, hang out with a friend and did stuff.

Finalized Ford's convo in 08 smuggler and then I continued my playthrough.

Did the 04 maps, found a few different things to fix in NSFHQ. Floating things, brushes whose surfaces have been "merged" due to a optimization issue in the editor, movers with incorrect pivot points, floating coronas. Of course I fixed all of them and continued on. Nothing else to report in the other levels, ultimately stopped at 05 UnatcoMJ12Lab.

Tomorrow I'll look into some code issues like the previously mentioned dxogg thing, the killing of paul if you bail out of the window, and the need to code up 2x support for the computer logos.

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sabin1981
sabin1981 May 1 2015, 1:33pm says:

Any particular reason you deleted my post? I'm not sure I broke any rules and as much as you may dislike me for pointing out the obvious, it's still nothing I did wrong :(

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bjorn98009_91 Creator
bjorn98009_91 May 14 2015, 7:54pm replied:

Vi behöver inte trolls. Om man nu tycker att det tar lång tid så kan man hålla den åsikten för sig sjäv, det blir väldigt tröttsamt annars.

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sabin1981
sabin1981 May 15 2015, 8:51am replied:

I'm not a troll and labelling me as such is a pretty disgusting and petty thing to do. All I did was point out the simple fact, on YEAR ago I said "I'll just wait until Next May" and you replied "It won't be that long"

Well it has been that long.

If you think my pointing that out means I'm trolling, then you're wrong. Perhaps you should learn to stop getting the community's hopes up with numerous announcements and then dashing them with numerous delays. But hey, I guess it's easier to blame your failings on me and label me as a troll, eh? You certainly won't be getting any more votes from me and I'm truly sorry I voted for you or your mod in the first place, if this is the kind of attitude I can expect. Now go ahead and downvote me some more.

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dev221117
dev221117 May 15 2015, 9:20am replied:

So what was the comment exactly? Were you being overtly pessimistic or just saying, "Nah, I don't know, I'll wait for longer."

Personally I'm cautiously optimistic about the mod, especially since someone has pointed out that Revision doesn't seem to have any strong focus and the attitude they're showing by labelling their changes as "improvements" is bad.

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sabin1981
sabin1981 May 15 2015, 9:25am replied:

It was just a jokey/sarcastic prod about a previous conversation last year after the April '14 update and the delay about not making the May 12th release, I said "Oh well, I guess I'll see you next may then" -- disappointed more than offensive, or at least I tried to convey that. Bjorn replied with "Seriously, it won't be that long" so I reminded him of that comment this month, a year later.

On reflection, especially taking into account personal disappointments with one of the mappers vanishing, I guess this might have stung and come across less amusing and more offensive :\

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bjorn98009_91 Creator
bjorn98009_91 May 15 2015, 9:20am replied:

Also in the heat of the moment it did feel like you were trolling, perhaps I was mistaken, if so I'm sorry.

However negative and condescending comments are of no use to anyone.

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dev221117
dev221117 May 15 2015, 9:22am replied:

Once you get deep into any creative profession, you'll realize how useful negative comments can be. Positive ones perk you up, but negative ones show where you were wrong. Of course, I'm talking about well written and well thought out positive and negative comments.

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bjorn98009_91 Creator
bjorn98009_91 May 15 2015, 9:14am replied:

Try making a mod for yourself and see how easy it is with no funding and with real life happening.

Now, it is true that we have grossly miscalculated our deadlines. However that's mostly due to the uncertainty of our lives. For instance our mapper managed to churn out a lot of content in a short period of time and we assumed that at that pace it would be done last year. Then he disappeared for months, nothing happened. Another modder that was helping us out with a few things produced a lot of things last march & april, then he fell off the surface of the earth and left us with semi-complete content.

That's not something you can plan for, but I guess we should have been slightly more pessimistic in our estimates.

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sabin1981
sabin1981 May 15 2015, 9:18am replied:

That's a much nicer reply than just blasting me as a troll. I'm sorry about your ongoing life stuff and I know only too well how that can interfere with work or hobbies, I've never blamed you or your team for anything - though I fully admit I've been impatient due to the recent delays. I've tried my best to not come across as ungrateful or offensive and my comment about "Seriously, it won't be that long" was just a joking prod about our discussion a year ago.

I meant no offence and intended no hurt. I have a great deal of respect and admiration for modding teams that put out fantastic content, like Revision, and any sarcastic or joking comments from me around release dates or delays are borne purely of disappointment due to anticipation, not because of trolling or malice. I'm worried about Revision due to the comments about Square-Enix and contracts and deals and legality, I'm worried about it due to the extended development time, but I *am* trying to be patient and I'm *not* trying to hurt you or the team. Though I admit I did bristle at being called a troll and so I lashed out, for that I apologise.

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bjorn98009_91 Creator
bjorn98009_91 May 15 2015, 9:22am replied:

Alright, good that we have that settled. It's a bit hard to understand if something is sarcastic or if it's dead serious on the net.

Anyway, nothing to worry about, nothing is in jeopardy.

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