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13 comments by bjorn98009_91 on Aug 25th, 2015


Was a while ago since I last wrote. I've been busy as always. Drewie wrote to us a while back when some commentators asked about Windows 10 compatibility in the comment section and asked if we wanted the mod tested on Win10. Since I only have one computer, and I don't want to risk screwing things up with my development environment before we are done, I couldn't upgrade myself and test how Windows 10 behaved and I was glad that he could help out (another tester also contacted us but he only did a quick test and then rolled back to an earlier OS version).

So Drewie started a new playthrough and of course found a lot of issue, as always. The more you look the more you find, and also since we rebuild the maps from time to time there is also the risk of creating BSP errors that one might not find on a quick test. He also have loads of suggestions, and while we might not agree on all of them, he has given us plenty of ideas of ways to improve things that we've taken to heart. Larger improvements like doing geometry changes we don't want to do due to the fact that it takes time and also the risk of BSP errors and then extensive re-testing. Fixing a floating pillow of removing a guard for a difficulty setting take about 10 seconds once you have the map loaded.

What's strange is that some bugs we are not even sure how they've arisen as we've not even changed that aspect of the game since the last time we changed the map (like Gunther not showing up for the cutscene in Champs-Élysées). I've played through the game and Harry have played through it five times now I think, it has always worked; except now, despite that we've changed nothing about him.

So of course I'm keeping busy with fixing all the bugs. Someone mentioned if we've given this extra time has decided to take some 1.1 things and implement them into 1.0. For the most part, no. Mainly cause we've been busy with fixing issues/testing and we simply haven't begun work on the 1.1 stuff. However sometimes when bored, a team member or two might make some new thing and we go "hey, why not put it in 1.0, much easier to manage then keeping some separate version of the file and it seems tested enough".

Also some known hard to track down non-critical bugs that we've previously pushed into 1.1 got fixed given the extra time we've had to test, try and debug. Most of them are vanilla/gameplay mod related issues, so it's not exactly our fault anyway, but they do sometimes detract from the experience so if we have the time and the possibility to fix them we try. Sometimes the hack fixes some mods have implemented to get around certain issues just aren't cutting it and then there is no way to sort the issue, short of rewriting the entire subsystem, like the inventory system; and that's not happening any time soon.

If the bug/suggestion reports we get doesn't contain a lot of BSP issues we'll have most things fixed up in a day. John checks the suggestions, decides what he things are good ones that he considers fit, give feedback and then I implement/fix. We got a fresh report in last night so I'll be looking through that tomorrow to fix stuff. Today has been a talky day with emails going back and forth, real life things (socializing, watching the news, doing food/dishes, and we also had some trouble with some conversation files not being up to spec.

I'm also very excited that we are reaching the end now, or well the start of post-release era. Anyway, cya around!

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sabin1981 May 1 2015 says:

Any particular reason you deleted my post? I'm not sure I broke any rules and as much as you may dislike me for pointing out the obvious, it's still nothing I did wrong :(

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bjorn98009_91 May 14 2015 replied:

Vi behöver inte trolls. Om man nu tycker att det tar lång tid så kan man hålla den åsikten för sig sjäv, det blir väldigt tröttsamt annars.

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sabin1981 May 15 2015 replied:

I'm not a troll and labelling me as such is a pretty disgusting and petty thing to do. All I did was point out the simple fact, on YEAR ago I said "I'll just wait until Next May" and you replied "It won't be that long"

Well it has been that long.

If you think my pointing that out means I'm trolling, then you're wrong. Perhaps you should learn to stop getting the community's hopes up with numerous announcements and then dashing them with numerous delays. But hey, I guess it's easier to blame your failings on me and label me as a troll, eh? You certainly won't be getting any more votes from me and I'm truly sorry I voted for you or your mod in the first place, if this is the kind of attitude I can expect. Now go ahead and downvote me some more.

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bjorn98009_91 May 15 2015 replied:

Also in the heat of the moment it did feel like you were trolling, perhaps I was mistaken, if so I'm sorry.

However negative and condescending comments are of no use to anyone.

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bjorn98009_91 May 15 2015 replied:

Try making a mod for yourself and see how easy it is with no funding and with real life happening.

Now, it is true that we have grossly miscalculated our deadlines. However that's mostly due to the uncertainty of our lives. For instance our mapper managed to churn out a lot of content in a short period of time and we assumed that at that pace it would be done last year. Then he disappeared for months, nothing happened. Another modder that was helping us out with a few things produced a lot of things last march & april, then he fell off the surface of the earth and left us with semi-complete content.

That's not something you can plan for, but I guess we should have been slightly more pessimistic in our estimates.

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sabin1981 May 15 2015 replied:

That's a much nicer reply than just blasting me as a troll. I'm sorry about your ongoing life stuff and I know only too well how that can interfere with work or hobbies, I've never blamed you or your team for anything - though I fully admit I've been impatient due to the recent delays. I've tried my best to not come across as ungrateful or offensive and my comment about "Seriously, it won't be that long" was just a joking prod about our discussion a year ago.

I meant no offence and intended no hurt. I have a great deal of respect and admiration for modding teams that put out fantastic content, like Revision, and any sarcastic or joking comments from me around release dates or delays are borne purely of disappointment due to anticipation, not because of trolling or malice. I'm worried about Revision due to the comments about Square-Enix and contracts and deals and legality, I'm worried about it due to the extended development time, but I *am* trying to be patient and I'm *not* trying to hurt you or the team. Though I admit I did bristle at being called a troll and so I lashed out, for that I apologise.

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bjorn98009_91 May 15 2015 replied:

Alright, good that we have that settled. It's a bit hard to understand if something is sarcastic or if it's dead serious on the net.

Anyway, nothing to worry about, nothing is in jeopardy.

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FastGamerr Jul 17 2015 replied:

Kind of a funny conversation now in retrospect. Ohh!

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