Plane Selection/List in Vector Thrust compared with Ace Combat, HAWX and AirForce Delta Thread - Vector Thrust

I'd like to ask, how does the plane selection compare to Ace Combat, AirForce Delta and HAWX? Each of the other series has unique and sometimes rare planes, such as the EA-18G, Su-24, F-16F and Hawk in Ace Combat, Cold War and Chinese jets in Airforce Delta Strike/Storm (J-7, J-8, JF-17, J-10, EE Lightning, MiG-17/19, Su-7, Su-15, Su-17/22 and Yak-28 among others), and Mirage IV, YF-12, F-86, MiG-15 in HAWX 1/2. Is having most if not all planes from these series of games the ultimate direction for Vector Thrust?

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If you want a short, general answer: It feels like we have everything from 1959 onward.

flyawaynow wrote: If you want a short, general answer: It feels like we have everything from 1959 onward.

So far in term of prototypes/variants, maybe.

AirForce Delta: Strike has 103 real-world planes and AirForce Delta: Storm has 67. As for HAWX and Ace Combat it should be in the region of 30-50 planes. However these aren't organized into aircraft families like Vector Thrust. I'll have list of planes for the AirForce Delta and HAWX games once I get back on PC. As for Ace Combat, the planes lists can be found on the acepedia wiki. What I would like to ask is the 170 planes available on Early Access, does it refer to 170 aircraft families or 170 planes in total?

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For the record, I recall the early alpha already have 120-ish planes, that's about 10 or more family-ish.

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The last posts have mentioned approximately 170 units. This accounts for .2264's existing ten families plus the additional five mentioned since the Alpha's development. With the Other family for one-off designs, that leads to 16.

That's only off of ModDB posts though. Facebook, for example, has shown the MiG-31 and J-7FS with no word as to whether they're being appended to existing families or becoming their own. It wouldn't be 16 then.

SpootKnight wrote:
That's only off of ModDB posts though. Facebook, for example, has shown the MiG-31 and J-7FS with no word as to whether they're being appended to existing families or becoming their own. It wouldn't be 16 then.

Remember that not even all reported plane families like F-22 (and maybe F-35) family haven't been fully implemented either.

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Wasn't the Mig-31, along with the SR-71 and I guess the A-12 (YF-12) planes going to make some sort of high speed DLC?

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As far as I can remember that's the plan. I just know some things are posted on Facebook that aren't posted here until later, usually when Nergal01 or myself take notice. Since they're shown in-game though it's possible they may be included, but that hasn't been officially stated.

Also let us not forget that F-4 family was introduced on the FB page too. due to the popular demand

I'd like to note that there's also a better degree of accuracy in how the models of aircraft are presented; meanwhile, Ace Combat Infinity has a few, well, issues, like the front half of one plane belonging to something entirely different than what its named.

Boogie_Van wrote: I'd like to note that there's also a better degree of accuracy in how the models of aircraft are presented; meanwhile, Ace Combat Infinity has a few, well, issues, like the front half of one plane belonging to something entirely different than what its named.

Could've been much worse. Remember HAWX?

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Nergal01 wrote:

Boogie_Van wrote: I'd like to note that there's also a better degree of accuracy in how the models of aircraft are presented; meanwhile, Ace Combat Infinity has a few, well, issues, like the front half of one plane belonging to something entirely different than what its named.

Could've been much worse. Remember HAWX?

All I remember is the eurofighter not having animated thrust nozzles

bornloser wrote:
All I remember is the eurofighter not having animated thrust nozzles

Typical French incompetence problem, they use SAME model for some planes in the same family (most notoriously MiG-25 & MiG-31, Mirage III & Mirage V, F-16 and F-2A, YF-12 & SR-71, F-15C & F-15E and so on. The only thing they did right is Legacy Hornet and Super Hornet), also non-animated internal weapon bay so missiles launched from nowhere.

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Nergal01 wrote:

bornloser wrote:
All I remember is the eurofighter not having animated thrust nozzles

Typical French incompetence problem, they use SAME model for some planes in the same family (most notoriously MiG-25 & MiG-31, Mirage III & Mirage V, F-16 and F-2A, YF-12 & SR-71, F-15C & F-15E and so on. The only thing they did right is Legacy Hornet and Super Hornet), also non-animated internal weapon bay so missiles launched from nowhere.

ahahaha seriously? I know it's hard to model real life planes but how do you get that lazy?

i can't be assed counting all the planes in the Aircraft Folder. Early Access doesn't have all challenges implemented, (in fact there's only relatively few challenges done) so you'll have to unlock everything manually. (through the ini file)

Have all the challenges left the planning stage? If not I'll see what I can come up with when early access is released

bornloser wrote:

Nergal01 wrote:

bornloser wrote:
All I remember is the eurofighter not having animated thrust nozzles

Typical French incompetence problem, they use SAME model for some planes in the same family (most notoriously MiG-25 & MiG-31, Mirage III & Mirage V, F-16 and F-2A, YF-12 & SR-71, F-15C & F-15E and so on. The only thing they did right is Legacy Hornet and Super Hornet), also non-animated internal weapon bay so missiles launched from nowhere.

ahahaha seriously? I know it's hard to model real life planes but how do you get that lazy?

Oh lord, wait, was HAWX made by a French dev? Because that puts a lot of fairly similar model/accuracy problems from another game into perspective.

Could be worse. Try a having game not worthy of having the name of a major military/aerospace/naval news and reference publisher.

Boogie_Van wrote:
Oh lord, wait, was HAWX made by a French dev? Because that puts a lot of fairly similar model/accuracy problems from another game into perspective.

To be more specific, Ubisoft Romania, but you know the rest.

Could be worse. Try a having game not worthy of having the name of a major military/aerospace/naval news and reference publisher.

*coughJane'sAdvancedStrikeFightercough*. Yes, that shitty spiritual successor of Heatseeker.

Boogie_Van wrote:

bornloser wrote:

Nergal01 wrote:

bornloser wrote:
All I remember is the eurofighter not having animated thrust nozzles

Typical French incompetence problem, they use SAME model for some planes in the same family (most notoriously MiG-25 & MiG-31, Mirage III & Mirage V, F-16 and F-2A, YF-12 & SR-71, F-15C & F-15E and so on. The only thing they did right is Legacy Hornet and Super Hornet), also non-animated internal weapon bay so missiles launched from nowhere.

ahahaha seriously? I know it's hard to model real life planes but how do you get that lazy?

Oh lord, wait, was HAWX made by a French dev? Because that puts a lot of fairly similar model/accuracy problems from another game into perspective.

*coughWarGame?cough*

OrangeFr3ak wrote: *coughWarGame?cough*

That too, although it's sorta tolerateable that Eugen only have few manpower to handle unit visual and detail presentations (compared to Ubi$hit).

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What's less tolerable about that is that they wouldn't get a French tank wrong, but they would any other country's.

Still, that might've been what I was implying.

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Regardless of how accurate the designs or animations are, this game's list of playable aircraft could outdo AC5: TUW. But unlike AC5, you're not restricted to one SP Weapon per plane nor chopper.

I think it's impressive the level of detail coupled with the variety of aircraft.

I just hope that if/when TS gets to working on playable helicopters, that they are actually flown, instead of typical arcade experience. Understand I'm not asking for simulation, I'm just asking for like, actual flight - somewhere along the lines of Battlefield 2 or ArmA, with a little mix of proper flight details, like most transports being outright unable to hover, etc.