free engine? Thread

I don't really have any modding experince, except for the team I'm on currently, making weapon models and textures.

I was wondering if there was a free engine, or something that I could just make a mod for, just for fun, and kind of get some coding experince in.

People are working to make quake free, but now, im not so sure...

That would be good.

Darkplaces Quake.

Ogre3d.org
S2games.com

try these two i dunno how useful they are though

You can use the shareware version of Quake to make mods with.

ShortCutMan wrote: You can use the shareware version of Quake to make mods with.

Not really, as it violates their EULA stating don't reproduce out of the demo.

WHY ARE YOU ALL SO NUBS THINKING QUAKE'S THE ONLY FREE ENGINE IN THE WORLD, ffs there's Irrlicht and Crystal Space

Hmm, there are a few...

Realmforge - Realmforge.com
Irrlicht - Irrlicht.sourceforge.net
Silverback - S2games.com (Okay, you gotta buy Savage, but it's a great engine nonetheless)
Ogre 3D - Ogre3d.org
The Nebula Device - Nebuladevice.cubik.org
Crystal Space - Crystal.sourceforge.net

Or try here: Members.tripod.com , or here: Genesis3d.com

I don't know if they're all free, but they're pretty good engines. I wish you the best of luck.

ogre3d is good stuff, so is reality factory

It's best to just program your own engine. Use DirectX and MSVC++ is only $100 or so. Although, if you aren't experience perhaps you would be better off with those free FPS creator types of engines.

I don't think a guy who has no coding experience is capable of programming an engine.

GeneralTimothyC wrote: It's best to just program your own engine. Use DirectX and MSVC++ is only $100 or so. Although, if you aren't experience perhaps you would be better off with those free FPS creator types of engines.

...if you want your project to fail

Thanks for all the suggestions, I'll take a look at 'em.

I'm looking at Irrlicht and Ogre 3D right now, which look pretty good. Though is there any recommended for my level of knowledge?

Oh and I was also interested in Darkplaces since their is such a big Quake modding scene, but does it require Quake? Since I don't own Quake... well yeah.

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Openquartz.sourceforge.net

USE OPEN SOURCE CONTENT FOR STARTERS

I think I'll go with darkplaces. I've been trying to find some model and texture guides online, for like texture resolutions, poly counts etc.but have been having a hard time.

for darkplaces, texture resolutions and poly limits are basically unlimited. You can go as high as you want, but don't expect it to be happy dealing with uber-high poly models :p

If you need any info/advice go to #darkplaces on irc.anynet.org, where LordHavoc (the creator of DP) can usually be found. #qc on irc.gamesurge.com is a good place to come as well. The forums at www.inside3d.com and www.quakesrc.org are good place to visit for advice as well.

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Awsome, thanks.

arghvark wrote:
...if you want your project to fail

You did not clarify which part of my statement you addressed in the above quotation. I assume it was in regard to the "building your own engine" I had suggested. More to the point, I have been working with engines for a while now, perhaps you or a great majority do not have the skill to do so. However, there is no need to immediately discourage potential. The simple fact is, anything becomes impossible if no one tries. So please, give reasons and points of difficulty... and if you are only speaking out of hearsay, no statement is necessary.

@a_llama: Exactly my point in suggesting one of those pre-programmed creators. Following a logical pattern, we can all agree that these "easy game editors" have some level of flexibility. Therefore, some manner of coding must be involved. Coding requires logic, reasoning and problem solving. Even if it isn't C++, the fundamental principles are generally the same. Languages and libraries can be learned in a matter of months, but the basics must be solid and understood.

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if you don't know how to code an engine from scratch. don't suggest it.. you know the old saying. if someone told you to jump off a bridge, would you? in the end will be the same result in following your set course :/

i would definitly not head into programming a full fledged game engine off the bat if you have not done it before and you have not rather high programming skills. if you wanna make a simple engine this should work out but for something really usable and re-usable it takes a bit more. still if you are strong willed all can be learned.

as a start something like CrystalSpace or alike would be an option as you get the most things there already pre-packed. game makers are also an easy way and is less tedious than CS and co.

Carni wrote: if you don't know how to code an engine from scratch. don't suggest it.. you know the old saying. if someone told you to jump off a bridge, would you? in the end will be the same result in following your set course :/

I know how to build an engine from scratch... and I dont quite see the relevance of your analogy.

Anyway, let's not hijack the thread.

Sounds like a challenge

GeneralTimothyC wrote:

Carni wrote: if you don't know how to code an engine from scratch. don't suggest it.. you know the old saying. if someone told you to jump off a bridge, would you? in the end will be the same result in following your set course :/

I know how to build an engine from scratch... and I dont quite see the relevance of your analogy.

Anyway, let's not hijack the thread.

I think he was refering to me not being able to code.

www.cubeengine.com

Yeh cube is pretty good. Even as a game. Though I dont know how easy to mod it is.