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An important overview of the recent events leading up to the removal of the EoCIV download section, and information regarding the future of the project.

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Hey everyone,

As some of you have spotted, the download link for Evolution of Combat IV has been removed from our ModDB page this week. There's a long backstory behind this and I think that it helps if I start at the beginning to help you understand everything that's gone on.


Evolution of Combat has been in development since around 2007, originally under the name of "Combat Evolved" it has seen many different developers over its life but one developer has always remained the same, Serenity.

Combat Evolved Logo

^ The original "Combat Evolved" logo.


After releasing the hugely successful Evolution of Combat III, he began work on his own to create Evolution of Combat IV. A year or two later, the project was nearing completion and he got in contact with me, MattFiler, and asked I would help manage the ModDB page and publicise the mod.

We decided to take the mod public in August of 2015. There was a large amount of support for the project and as a result I created weekly news posts leading up to release along with teaser videos to show off the contents of the mod. During this time I worked on developing the menus and launcher as well as the publicity side of things, while Serenity worked on finishing the actual mod itself.

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^ The first promo image I created for Serenity back in August before I decided on the current style!

Just before release (in early December 2015) there was very bad weather here in the UK and as a result Serenity was flooded. He lost a lot in the flood including his computer which contained the source code for EoCIV. We thought this would be the end of the project, but luckily he discovered an older backup of his code online and worked hard on that to bring it back up to scratch ready to release.


Soon after the launch of EoCIV there were numerous claims of copyright against the mod. Some of them I was aware of, like the KOTF character selection menus which were used as placeholders until we finished our own menus, however some of the claims were pretty large. I spoke to Serenity multiple times about the issues and he assured me that the mod was clean and that other than the KOTF menus which we planned to replace there was no copyrighted content.

Just recently, claims of copyright have been getting a lot worse and as a result Serenity has decided to leave the project. He has told me that he is retiring from modding and does not plan to create any new projects in the future. I was sent one final EoCIV update about a month ago and that was it.

I've been keeping the content of that final update for a while now waiting to hear back from Serenity to see if he is able to send me the source code of the mod so that I can continue working on the project. Just last week I finally heard back from him and he has agreed to send me the source of the mod.

Happy at the news, I decided to release the final update I was sent in the form of "Patch #2" and continue like nothing had happened. However after releasing patch 2, the mod page was taken down and I received messages from a couple of ModDB admins questioning me about the stolen content that people had spoken about. Since I do not have access to the source as of yet I can not confirm if there is actually stolen content within the mod, however the claims are very detailed in some parts so I decided to believe them and I agreed with the ModDB staff to take down the download for EoCIV until I can confirm that there is no copyrighted content in the project.


So that's everything up to now, but where does that leave the future of the mod?

Once Serenity has sent me the source code for the mod I will work my way through the project to remove any copyrighted content that I have been notified of, then EoCIV will be re-released here on ModDB. After re-release I plan to continue developing the mod creating regular game updates through the year.

It's not been an easy ride over the last few months, and I appreciate the community's support. We never meant to cause any trouble, and I would have pulled the mod a long time ago if I'd realised that the claims of copyright were genuine.

I hope you can understand the situation and will stick with me while we get the source code transferred and I work to fix up the mod ready for re-release! I hope that the download will be back on ModDB around July/August, but that's just a rough estimate for now.

Until closer to re-release I will not be very active on the ModDB page or on the Discord chat, but I will try and make an effort to play more often with everyone and I plan on posting video updates of my progress over on my personal YouTube channel while I work on the mod, so subscribe to catch anything I upload!

I'd like to highlight that this isn't the end of the mod, hopefully this is just the beginning. I have some interesting ideas for new features once I get my hands on the source code which I'll be showing off in videos on my YouTube channel (subscribe button above).

Thanks again for all the support, and I look forward to what the future has in store!

Evolution of Combat IV


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Blackfalcon501
Blackfalcon501 - - 244 comments

Ah god damn copyright

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diegans
diegans - - 21 comments

All this bickering and throwing around DMCAs is disgusting, holy ****. Let's kill modding completely apparently.

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Discosphere
Discosphere - - 53 comments

Keep your chin up.

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DarkDiablos
DarkDiablos - - 238 comments

I'm confused. Unless I've got the name wrong wasn't KOTF the mod which used (uses) content from countless other mods without any permission at all? Like, loooads of it, including one or another of my own mods I think (was a while ago). If so, I wouldn't bother listening to that mod author/team at all. Their whole mod was an entire scam and rip off of others works. As for the rest? Well, that's different.

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JaceSolaris
JaceSolaris - - 293 comments

I was playing EoC online the other day and people were saying that serenity has retired from modding because of all the negative comments people have made ?

Is this true?

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Hels
Hels - - 84 comments

Ok. Here a frecuent player of EoCIV. Copyright issues will be taken on Matt's hands. About the people claiming for that copyright, is not (or not only KOTF team, which could say nothing, but various members of the community reporting stolen content from other mods. Actually, there is no proof either if they are stolen or not, even less if Matt can't take a look on the source, as he pointed here.

All that I can say is that I completely trust Matt. The fact of the game being started in 2007 means a lot of free to use borrowed content. The fact of too much content borrowed too long time ago, means that when doing different versions of the game, you might not remember everyone that helped you building this great mod back in the years. In adittion, the Jedi Academy modding landscape is very competitive, and some interest might have arisen. Some people claim that the borrowed content had no permission of the authors, but the fact is that the authors might be not answering in the momment of borrowing, and the content was used beacuse it was under free to use license. What actually happens is that those people claiming copyright infringement are trying to take down EoCIV, because of the envy and the fear of a great mod, trying to take advance of the borrowed content saying that it is stolen one. That is my opinion, at least.

As a result of all of this I am telling to you, when Matt has the source, I bet he will be working hard on adjusting to ModDB standards and rules, taking out all the content that he is aware of not being given permission to be used. I think that Evolution of Combat will re-emerge of his ashes as a fenix, more competitive, beautifull and polished than ever before, pointing to be the mod of the year, maybe not this year, but 2017? Who knows. If not mod of the year, at least nominated, and, for sure, the best mod for JA ever. It's sabersystem and playstyle is already the best out there (I have played OJP and MBII, and I can tell you this is true), and all that it needs is some tweaks to gamedesign, effects, etc., that will make out of it a true beast at pvp, aswell as pve.

So stay tunned to the mod back in July/August, and, in the meanwhile, take a look on the mod, you can download it on the official web at Eociv.mattfilerfilms.co.uk

We already have a small community getting deeper into the sabercombat, the different styles, and providing feedback of how to polish it! We are waiting for you!

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Gentlespy1
Gentlespy1 - - 16 comments

So with the site down, and the moddb link down, where do we get the mod!?

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