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DeETheWraith
DeETheWraith - - 70 comments

mmmm i like hammering my opponents into submission ^.^

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SveaRikeSoldier
SveaRikeSoldier - - 1,625 comments

There's a river called "Msta"?

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Ilves
Ilves - - 774 comments

yep.

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SveaRikeSoldier
SveaRikeSoldier - - 1,625 comments

I thought MSTA was an acronym for something.

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Nuttah
Nuttah - - 1,201 comments

Almost all Soviet and Russian self propelled artillery, particularly the guns, seem to have a name of some sort in addition to the GRAU index (2S19 'Msta', in this case).

Guess it makes them easier on the memory.

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alexeistukov87
alexeistukov87 - - 247 comments

Namings of models and types of weapons in Russia are usually made ​​in accordance with one of the established traditions:
- by name of scientific work, competition or will of designer
- by letter of modification (S-200V "Vega")
- by abbreviation ("Nona" - Novoe Orudie Nazemnoi Artillerii (New Weapon of Ground Artillery))
- by logic of series (usually self-propelled artillery has flower names like "Tulpan" or "Pion", MRLS - disaster series "Hail", "Tornado", "Hurricane")
- associatively ("Midges" radio jammer or "Arrow" MANPADs, system of distant mine disarming "Path")
- humor (thermobaric MRLS "Buratino" (russian Pinnochio), handcuffs "Tenderness", stun grenade "Ecstasy", chemical warhead "Caress")
- in a name of creators (T-90 "Vladimir", AA system Antei-2500 (ALmaz-Antei Facility))
- by features (ERA "Contact", jumping grenade VOG-25P "Jumper" (can be also translated as "foundling" - humor part again))

Can't remember any humor in western weapons. Western designers like to give scary and powerful names to their creations.

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Reborn:X
Reborn:X - - 3,456 comments

Some Eastern especially Asian military creations also have their names often based on geographic locations or animals and dates. Like the Chinese Type 69 MBT for the year of introduction. Small arms are often named after their purpose and manufacturer. Unlike the West or Russia improvements or upgraded version have "G" (Gai) added to the name. Asian military naming is also much simpler.

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alexeistukov87
alexeistukov87 - - 247 comments

Well, it's quite simple to understand Russian system.

Let's take simple one: 1K17 "Szhatie" (Compression) - mobile laser complex for destruction of electronic optical devices on MSTA-S chassis. 1K - complexes, 17 is a serial number of production facility, but for understanding it has a name "Compression" - everybody will get what it is, serial number is for documents.
Or Su-35 - Su - Sukhoi - developer, 35 - serial number of jet line.
Let's take for example something hard: 15E601 "Perimeter" - complex of automatic control system of massive nuclear retaliation. 15E - designation for operational systems of control and communication of strategic missile forces, 601 - serial number of system (there are 600 more devices, prototypes or not, for missile forces for sure, then), "Perimeter" - nickname for common or work purposes.

Everything is according to logic. You just have to sort all these things somehow (if we take in count all these enormous numbers of serial models and prototypes of all military devices).

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Ilves
Ilves - - 774 comments

as for US weapons manufacturers, they adore birds and generals

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Nuttah
Nuttah - - 1,201 comments

Somewhere during this exchange, I came to a conclusion.

The west is Batman, Russia The Joker.
Not funny? Youtube.com

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Reborn:X
Reborn:X - - 3,456 comments

Also the indigenous population as almost all attack helicopters are named after Indians.

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Dr.Thrax123
Dr.Thrax123 - - 78 comments

Please explain how Havoc, Halo, Hip, Haze, etc. are named after Indians...

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yahoodi
yahoodi - - 411 comments

The American helicopters, Commanche Apache etc.
He didn't mean the Russian choopers :p

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theonewhonevergivesa
theonewhonevergivesa - - 567 comments

He meant USA made helicopters, like Apache or Comanche, or Iroquois (aka Huey).
While you have mentioned NATO reporting names for russian-made choppers: Havok is Mi-28, Halo - Mi-26, Hip - Mi-8/Mi-17, and I don't remember Haze.

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DenGresh
DenGresh - - 432 comments

What kind of cosmic changes in Msta-S?

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The_Hunter649 Author
The_Hunter649 - - 438 comments

The texture of the turret has alot more details and the chassis is entirely new, aswell as the reloading arm on the back of the turret.

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CptIstvanofArdeal
CptIstvanofArdeal - - 2,362 comments

i love these updates keep up the good work lads

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Ilves
Ilves - - 774 comments

Generals engine is known for blurring detailed textures heaving from far zooms. Does this texture look okay ingame?

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The_Hunter649 Author
The_Hunter649 - - 438 comments

it sure does :)

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Nuttah
Nuttah - - 1,201 comments

Aww, you guys.
First you disappear for a while, then you suddenly pop back up with even better gifts than the last time.

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Thelord444
Thelord444 - - 484 comments

OMG Update Awesome keep up the good work

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Kalga
Kalga - - 5,731 comments

The difference... I'm at a loss for words.

Compare to the original model: Moddb.com

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theonewhonevergivesa
theonewhonevergivesa - - 567 comments

Update, yay.
New model looks NEAT, good work!

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All_Under_Heaven
All_Under_Heaven - - 352 comments

Will the double barreled version of this artillery piece end up in the final version?

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Fuzzo-QT
Fuzzo-QT - - 81 comments

May I ask, what is that thing at the back of the turret?

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JarateHunter
JarateHunter - - 68 comments

Reloading arm.

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Fuzzo-QT
Fuzzo-QT - - 81 comments

Oh, I see.

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x.oo
x.oo - - 2 comments

It should have 12 wheels instead 10, 6 on each side. TOS-1 has the same chassis problem.

And I have a question about voices. Can/will you bring back those awesome russian voices from beta version? Russians speak Russian, not english... Just make a patch for those, who understand russian language. Voices from red alert are stupid.

(sorry for my incorrect english)

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lwmr
lwmr - - 271 comments

In the faint Distance you hear pew pew pew pew you look back and you see your base full of 30 inch shell holes like '0_o

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Named after the eponymous river in western Russia, the Msta-S is the self-propelled version of a 152mm howitzer that was introduced in the late 1980s. Its high explosive shells are powerful enough to hammer any opponent into submission within a few moments but the vehicle's greatest claim to fame lies in its rarer variant, the Koalitsiya-SV, which is fitted with an 'over-and-under' dual cannon that increases the Msta's otherwise mediocre rate of fire to downright frightening levels.