Last Alliance: TW is overhaul mod to Shogun 2. This mod base on stories from Tolkien's books, concretely on wars Dúnedain and Elves against Sauron at the end of the Second Age. This still WIP, but is avaiable alpha with playable Akallabêth campaign ^^

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Argeomer
Argeomer - - 5,582 comments

Numenoreans killing numenoreans...so wrong

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joosthenning93
joosthenning93 - - 10 comments

But this is exectly what happend, the Kingsmen of Numenor (+Umbar etc.) got corrupted by Melkor and Sauron. Elendil rebeld with a loyal men to stop them and later created Arnor and Gondor

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Argeomer
Argeomer - - 5,582 comments

i know about that. It's still wrong xD
Well, there wasn't a war in Numenor, the kingsmen simply started to isolate the Dunedain (Dunedain=elf's friends, Kings Men=the corrupted ones) . For a time Umbar was part of Gondor, then the kin strife happened. Don't know if, after Numenor fell, there was skirmishes between numenoreans but i haven't seen information about that (if there were please share, i want to know more)

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Sara_Temer Author
Sara_Temer - - 769 comments

Officially wars between Numenoreans was after Numenor fell. In Last Alliance war some King's Men/Black Numenoreans (from Umbar and Harad) fought for Sauron, and next for years, Numenoreans from Umbar attacked Gondor to time, when in 930 Gondor conquered Umbar, but in next time still was conflict between them

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Argeomer
Argeomer - - 5,582 comments

Yes, but what im talking about is really open war Numenoreans vs Numenoreans. Only the kin strife, then the black numenoreans went to Umbar and claimed it as theirs. But then it got reconquered by the Dunedain, 5 years later it was lost to the haradrim. There were black numenoreans in Sauron's service, the Mouth of Sauron, the Witch-King, several others.

But we have to distinguish Black Numenoreans from King's Men, as the Black Numenoreans came from the King's Men but the King's Men weren't all Black Numenoreans (that's what i understood)

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Sara_Temer Author
Sara_Temer - - 769 comments

In Third Age name "Black Numenoreans" is for all Numenoreans who not lived in Gondor or Arnor, so for all King's Men from Umbar and other colonies

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Argeomer
Argeomer - - 5,582 comments

hmm...that's discrimination! xD . Imagine if you were from a distant colony not reached by the influence of Sauron, where everyone still has pure numenorean blood and haven't lost knowledge and are elf friendly and decide to see how Arnor and Gondor are doing and being called Black Numenorean xD i would be like "But...what did we do? :'( "

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Carmondai
Carmondai - - 552 comments

I would call that **** happens!!!
xD

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Sara_Temer Author
Sara_Temer - - 769 comments

Ups, I forgot to reply on this >.<
We know that mostly of Elendili lived in Andunie (and before fall of Numenor they moved to Romenna) and in Numenorean colonies on north from Umbar (so, e.g. Pelargir), so if some Elendili lived in Umbar and in colonies on south from Umber, they probably moved to Gondor and Arnor after Akallabeth

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Commissar_Delta
Commissar_Delta - - 5,828 comments

I see multiple mountains in the background there but the Meneltarma was the only mountain on Numenor if I recall correctly; will final battle maps be more representative of the Numenorian landscape?

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Sara_Temer Author
Sara_Temer - - 769 comments

Battlemaps is from vanilla, we don't have custom map yet ;)

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