Remember the good old times when Kane's Wrath was more flowing game before patch 1.01 ruin it? the times when we cold play it without hearing "insufficient funds" every half minute and see how our units, upgrades, and support powers didn't felt so weak to the point we ask ourselves "why we even spend so much time and money on them in the first place?" And above all having smart A.I. that don't falling apart? Kane's Wrath Classic aiming to fix that! bringing back most of the normal and well known C&C balances to how it was in version 1.00 With the bugfixs, out of syncs fix, And the ability to play online!

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Kane's Wrath Classic changes most of the balance back to how it was in good old version 1.00 while keeping the bugsfixs of the newer patches and keep the rest of the good stuff :)

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Guest
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will I need the older files you uploaded (such as the Extracted and edited official maps pack) too?

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egozi44 Author
egozi44

No, the mod can work without them, but if you want the tiberium spikes to give you 25$ per sec and 750$ when being captured on KW's official maps you will need these files.

The SDK didn't let me to change the tiberium spikes on the official maps, I was able to changed them on custom maps.

So the only "fix" I was able to find at the moment was to extract all KW's official maps and put them in the game's maps folder, and it result in adding the game's maps as custom maps.

It will show you each maps twice though (the official and custom) but it won't change anything in the game files so you don't need to worry.

One last thing.. for some reason the game don't want to detect 3-4 official maps as custom maps.. so they will be missing until I will find a way to make them work

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Guest
Guest

how to get this mod to work please help

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desertfox2009
desertfox2009

If anybody could help I have This game on Steam and am also wondering how to get this to work :(. Please help.

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egozi44 Author
egozi44

Sorry didn't saw your commits

How play:

First before anything else you will need to download the last version of WrathEd Mod Launcher
(it can be found in MODDB)
And make sure that you set it to be opened as administer

you will also need to make new folder in "C:\Users\username\Documents\Command & Conquer 3 Kane's Wrath and named it as "Mods"
example: C:\Users\username\Documents\Command & Conquer 3 Kane's Wrath\Mods and put the mod you want to play in it (in the mods folder)

After that just open the WrathED Mod Launcher (as administer) and select Kane's Wrath Classic 1.00 , Press on the "play" button and that it!

I don't sure how to play it with steam version but I recall I saw few tutorials that show how to do so, I will post when I will have time.
Have fun!

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desertfox2009
desertfox2009

Alas I Will have to find more info thru Steam, because though I followed the instructions I ran into the same problems as others... the Launcher has the wrong permissions and I don't know / it won't Allow me to change the target location. Thank you for you assistance however!

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egozi44 Author
egozi44

NP I will also try to look for way to make it work on steam users, thought I believe there's a way already and I just need to look deeper in the net to find it

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egozi44 Author
egozi44

desertfox2009

I may found a way help you play the mod, you will need "CNC: Online" installed though and then follow this tutorial

Moddb.com

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Mihzvol
Mihzvol

Would it be possible to make it completely modular?
I mean, I really like the changes to refineries, it's high price and high energy consumption makes you think twice before spamming them out, although I'd like 1.00 MARV, harvesters and pikes stats...
I'm using the "Classic Money and Radius Edition, but I'd really love one with these options above, without the radius too, although this makes no difference for me!!!

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egozi44 Author
egozi44

Hello there Mihzvol, sorry I didn't notice your reply till now

I didn't really understood what you meant there by making it completely modular?

So far all the things that were in "Classic Money and Radius Edition" are in Classic ver 1.00, I just removed the radius from Barracks and Power plant since the orginal ver 1.00 didn't had radius for them, the rest of the building have radius though

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Mihzvol
Mihzvol

It's simple, you make a mod with all your changes, and users choose what they want on their game, I mean, I really want the old 1.00 tiberium spike, harversters and MARV income ratio, but I'd also like to keep the new refinery cost and consumption, and also the 1.00 radius...
So, instead of creating a lot different versions of the mod, couldn't you create just one, and by making it modular, people would choose what they want?
I don't know if this is possible C&C, but many modders do this on The Elder Scrolls mods...
As I said, I'm using the "Classic Money and Radius Edition", because it has many of the changes I like, But I'd really love if it has the new refinery system...

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egozi44 Author
egozi44

Umm well version 1.00 have many changes compared to 1.02 and 1.01.

My mod's purpose was mainly to change most things to be like ver 1.00 while keep the bugfixes and the good stuff that EA added.

The two other editions where for people who only wanted the older money system and the older radius + money system without anything else changed (in other words it patch 1.02 balance with just the money and radius changes)

these two mods were also sort of demos, and the real thing had All changes in it to be like ver 1.00

I don't sure I can do every single change as a mod (the units and other stuff have a lot of balance changes in ver 1.01 and 1.02)

What I can do is to release the source codes so that other people will be able to edit anything they want to change, but that required the last version of KW SDK and a bit of knowledge about modding.

Or I can simply release another Edition if someone request so (the radius version was requested by user so that why I end up made it)

What you want me to change?

just the economic system? (like have all refineries, harversters, and spike with 1.02 economic system which mean refineries ganaaa cost 3000$ and will take more power)

while keep the rest of 1.00 balance?

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Mihzvol
Mihzvol

Exactly the opposite, use the 1.00 economic system for everything but the Refineries, Which I like the 1.02 changes for it...
So it'll be like
Economic: 1.00
Refineries: 1.02
Everything else: 1.02

That would be perfect for me!!!

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egozi44

So in other words you want only the tiberium spikes and MARV economic changes (it's income ratio) correct?

There was a few costs changes for units and special powers but most of them were sensible in ver 1.02

Just so you know though The current SDK don't let me to mess with the tiberium spikes of official maps so it only going to work on the unofficial maps and the Extracted and edited official maps pack that I made

(which you can get here: Moddb.com )

It miss a few maps though :( I know feel like half work but there's really nothing I can do about it at the moment until KW's SDK will get some update that allow it

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Mihzvol
Mihzvol

I was sure that I replied to this post but it seems to be missing...
Anyway, that's exactly what I want, plus 1.00 stats for Harvesters, I really didn't like the changes made to then, and since they have a heavy role on Economics, that sounds like another economic change!!!

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egozi44 Author
egozi44

So to sum it up you want:

Only Tiberium spikes, MARV, and Harvesters ver1.00 economic

and to leave everything else with ver1.02 changes

The Harvesters have more HP in ver 1.02 though, so you want it to be changed as well or to leave it as it is and just change the price and build time?

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Mihzvol
Mihzvol

About the Harvesters HP, Well, I think it wouldn't change much, with higher HP they still die too fast, so I don't think it'll change that much, so I'll leave that one for you to decide :p

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egozi44 Author
egozi44

Sorry for the delay Mihzvol, I have some sudden issues with my PC hardware so I didn't was focus on the modding.

I will let you know when the mod will be released

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egozi44 Author
egozi44

OK this will be your last chance to tell me what you want before I will upload the mod

Looking at old replies you kind of mixed thing for me xD

So I will note all what I going to change, Please tell me if something is missing:

You want me to change:

Tiberium spikes to give incomes like in ver 1.00

Left Refineries like they where in v1.02

Radius like in ver 1.00

MARV incomes like in ver 1.00

Harvesters cost to be like 1.00

To left EVERYTHING else from version 1.02 untouched
(Units damages, armor, all the rest of the changes I done in KWC (please look in the change log and tell me If you spot anything that you want untouched or changed and tell me exactly what you want me to change so I won't make any mistakes)

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Mihzvol
Mihzvol

Yes, that's pretty much like it, you got it all right this time!!!
And man, thanks for making this game the best ever!!!

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egozi44 Author
egozi44

No problem mate :)

I upload the mod and it await authorization, it can take a couple of days (usually just one day)

But here the link just in case

Moddb.com

it probably won't work to you until it will be authorized though.

If I miss something feel free to tell me and I will re-release ver2

Also feel free to look on my Unofficial Patch 1.04 project here :)

Moddb.com

You can give your ideas there as well and I may add them to the patch/mod

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Mihzvol
Mihzvol

Ouch man, reading your 1.04 description ringed a bell in my mind, after reading about Overlord's Wrath, I thought "I mostly use it near my base so I can have another tiberium field, 'cuz Ichor Seed is pretty much useless"...
Really, 1k credits for that small field is pointless, Even Nod's Seed Tiberium is 2x better, at half the cost...
Well, it doesn't matter, Scrin already has a lot more tiberium than the other factions, and the mod's already done, but on your mod you should increase it a bit, or lower the price to match Nod's seed...

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egozi44 Author
egozi44

Umm I don't sure what you meant there

I already increased both Nod's seed and all scrin's Ichors to give more tiberium :o

so why you acted as if I decreased it? :3



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Mihzvol
Mihzvol

Not you, EA, Nod's Seed is decent, but Scrin Seed is crap, it ****** me off to use it and get almost nothing in return, but still, I use it along with overlord's wrath to boost my economy, since OW does none to very small damage...
It was just a rambling, nothing to do with your mod at all hahah, sorry for that

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egozi44 Author
egozi44

It fine :]

By the way the OW done really big damage in ver 1.00

it was the strongest support power in the game in terms of damage (it was the strongest SP before the super weapon)

patch 1.01 decrease it's damage dramatically and made it as it is today...

I moved it damage back to ver 1.00 in both KWC and UOP 1.04

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Mihzvol
Mihzvol

Yes, this new damage is useless, will destroy only tier 1 units, maybe some tier 2, using against enemy structures is simply useless, When I'm fighting against Scrin, I usually thanks for then using it on me ahahha...
BTW I was playing the mod yesterday, worked like a charm, you just made my day!!

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egozi44 Author
egozi44

Glad you like it :]

I'm now focusing on OUP 1.04
So if you have any idea or think that something should be change feel free to commit there and let me know (though I won't promise I will change it right away or at all, it mostly depend on the people's commits but not a lot commit there so far :o )

I also can't promise that I will be able to make these ideas to come true but I will do my best ;)

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