Total Conversions vs. Cosmetic Mods

I 100% miss total conversions

What about *partial* convertions ?
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The exit door is there, right ?

I think there are still a surprising amount of total conversions being made nowadays, even though most of them seem to be for older games. I don't necessarily miss the 'old school' mods themselves, but the community around modding instead. It may be case of pink glasses, but it feels like 'back then' everyone was more willing to help, and more interested in the work of others. To me it feels that all is left is tons of people creating their own low-quality games on their own, instead of talented and motivated people teaming up and creating an awesome mod just because it's FUN (and perhaps to create cool content for a portfolio as well).

I said TCs, but what really matter to me are gameplay mods regardless of size.
I like me some TCs of course, but having the choice between multiple gameplay mods can let you mix and match what you want to eventually obtain a master piece. Providing mods are compatible with each other of course. Bonus points if the engine allows for merging without having to recompile.

TCs were the best. Now wveryone is so obsessed with who can or cant use their resources because hey created it, which i can jnderstand if you were creating your own game and not a mod, since the developer/publisher of the game you made a mod for texhnically own the assets. Modding was way simpler in the late 90s and early 2ks. Everyone demonizes big mod packa like Battlefront Ultimate Pack, FCOM for oblivion, etc. when in fact those are just making it easier for everyones enjoyment.

I really miss total conversions as well... Though, nowadays, with all these free engines roaming around, most teams really think if they should put the energy to total converting a game or making a new game (and maybe profit) altogether.

Is a shame as people lost interest in making total conversions rather focusing on cosmetic mods which make characters looks cool

What bothers me even more then the "Rise of Pretty Shiny Things" for modding are the following two points.

1. the sheer amount of mod authors that abandon their work but then the community around the game or mod stoping others from wanting to continue it for "respecting their work"

2. Mod authors insisting that no one else can touch there work and then going after others that do something simmiler even though their "work" is technically not even theres due to modding SOMEONE ELSE"S IP.

Again I will not name any names but the elitist attitude that attitude that is becoming more common amongst Modders plus the quantity of mods expanding more along with the rising rate of mod abandonment is making me very concerned about the future of the modding community in the long-run.

That concern mainly be with the comming "Games as a Service" model, payed mods, and some EULA's dictating what you can and can not mod... I fear it may be a matter of time before some company will try to force a community standard on there modding community that will try to cliam abandoned mods and sneak in a clause that no modder owns the work they make.

I'm done with "Ultimated sides or Refreshed sides" mods

There can't be enough mods!

TC's where the best times specially for games like the C&C series for e.g

Yeah i agree. Creativity has plummeted for a while now. I mean you see mods that say "Total Conversion" and yet they just change 1 or 2 things, you can also tell if the modder has put effort into their mod or not by the amount of detail

TCs! Not like there arent any, especially for older mods. (Looking at the golden era Star Wars games like BF2 and EaW, the modding com is still hella active).

But TCs just add so much to the game and gameplay. Essentially its a redesign of the game the way the modders would have created it. Cosmetics are just cosmetics. Now, if the base game and gameplay is rich enough but older, cosmetics can give it a more up to date look, but thats rare.

I think the main problem is games arent as mod friendly anymore. Thx EA?

Man I miss the glory days of the TCs. Back when I was a kid, I tried every TC for Half-Life that I thought was remotely interesting.

It's such a shame that promising mods are left abandoned and I always look forwards to updates for the ongoing ones.

I think i read this wrong and voted wrong xD i wanted to vote that both have a place here, both i like and are necessary , not that there is already enough xD

Total conversion mod is the trend

I don't think Total Conversion Mods are dead, dying, or in decline.

I mean look what the Doom Modding Community has made over the last 5 years.

I wish moddb polls would come back...

Hi ,

TC's are a not that simple to build but it brings new experience to the gameplay.
Not all TC's are good, not all of them are bad. For example: I loved to play Alinen Trilogy TC's. My interrest is, i should be able to create maps (and missions) using doom builder for, say Alien Trilogy. That is is the fun side of TC' for me.

Thanks.

Total conversion are cool like DotA and others, but now it's easier to just make a new game in Unity or Unreal cuz most game devs are very screechy about locking and barring their files for some reason and ppl no longer care about digging and hacking through all that mess.. Besides current tech is too high for common folks to do that. Even DotA has turned into LOL cuz it reached the limits of WC3. Maybe TCs will come back when devs will realize they can make more money if they support modding

I don't think TC are gone, there are just better ways to do things now.

To be honest, I prefer both. Changing the artstyles while also changing the gameplay makes it somewhat unique for my taste.