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Public survey on should warp pillars replacing gantrys in revamp

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We would like to hear your feed back on this subject this doesn't mean we are replacing them we would just like to know your thoughts on the subject.


Positives for using pillars over gantrys

1. Space Saver uses less room
2. No limitations on how big a experimental can be the Fatboy and czar can be built using a pillar!
3. Looks better :P
4. Pillars will have research upgrades
5. Was made by Avitus should be better than a GPG unit HAHA

WE HAVE DECIDED THE NEW MOTHER SHIP AND FATBOY WILL ONLY BE AVAILABLE FROM THE WARP PILLARS, REVAMP 1.2 WILL HAVE NO LAND BUILT MOBILE EXPERIMENTALS APART FROM NAVAL.


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polerus
polerus

while warp pillars are incredibly convenient, to balance out the mod just a little, gantries should remain.

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leosake
leosake

Balance ? exactly how does it affect balance ?

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Lordsms
Lordsms

Yes warp pillars save space, but isnt that the whole thing to building experimentals? Shouldnt space be something almost required? I mean it makes things interesting with large gantries. I think gantries add to the gameplay, I think the pillars take away. I would rather have a factory then a teleportation device. Thats just me.

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AmadeusReborn
AmadeusReborn

I think that pillars are best. It helps the mod team, and means our units can be as large as we like. Also, there's always that awkward stumbling your expies have to do to get out of a crowded base's gantry, which could be averted using a warp pillar with an area of spawnage. And yes, it looks better. :)

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Ρrʌжis
Ρrʌжis

Yes, nuff said

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OmeG
OmeG

I think you should have both, keep the gantry for the smaller/vanilla expies, and warp in the bigger expies. :)

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Ominous-Spud
Ominous-Spud

This^ Keep em both.

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OverRated Author
OverRated

The problem with this is if we have both the AI will only use the gantry's i have no access to the AIs factory manager table which is in the games engine/EXE, So i cant add the pillars for the AI to build.

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0ss
0ss

So, if only the pillars remain the ai wont use them? Or will they replace the gantry's and the ai thinks pillars are gantry's?

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OverRated Author
OverRated

How the mod works is i replace the gantrys with the pillars for the AI, Then i create a new pillar unit for human players so the build icon is right, I cant replace the gantry's icons there in a folder which is 1gb.

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0ss
0ss

Ok, then i'll vote for pillars!

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PANdemoniumJP
PANdemoniumJP

Both look amazing and neither deserve to be cut from the game. Perhaps gantry's can have defensive upgrades (anti-air turret, missile turret...) like regular buildings making them very hard to destroy. Warp pillars on the other hand can be researched for ease and convenience but be much more expensive and fragile.

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OverRated Author
OverRated

Sorry we wont be editing any SC2 units! also like I've said above its ether gantry's or pillars because of the AI.

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madface
madface

The Illuminate gantry should be converted into a sports stadium.

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OmeG
OmeG

XD

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BloodRaven1313
BloodRaven1313

Agreed;)

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GlassPirate
GlassPirate

I say only pillars, I like that idea quite a bit more. Simple, pretty, unique. Could we keep the nanolathe-type effects though? I'd miss those. D:

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OverRated Author
OverRated

Do you mean the Nanites? if so there only on the land and air facotrys not the gantrys.

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VeniVdVici
VeniVdVici

Keep the pillar but put them on a naval experience tree. 14 is too much

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I_AM_THE_SLAW
I_AM_THE_SLAW

Just the pillars... they look way better and make alot more sense.

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Marbityr
Marbityr

With the pillars experimental units might not be something that is hastily manufactured in the field but rather warped in from another location. It would be like the original SupCom where SACUs were not built in a field factory but teleported into the field from another location via warp gate. Would be nice from a fluff standpoint.

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OverRated Author
OverRated

Yer as my theory goes,
Think of the pillars like a gatway beacon between worlds, Experimentals are built off world on a remote planet for storage and warped to your base.

Also unlike units like land and air there not spammed from the start of the game, so have a huge factory for experimentals is a bit under thought.

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Monkeyshinex
Monkeyshinex

No! The feeling you get while watching your experimental rise from a loud factory could never be replaced. :(

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Sarge7
Sarge7

Agreed, the mechanical aspect of the gantrys are too cool to completely remove..... Then again all we have to do is just not play SC2 with the mods.... :P

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ilovednb
ilovednb

i vote for pillars... pillars are the only way that would make sence for the epic huge experimentals

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Xorgacz
Xorgacz

Pillllllllllllllllllllllllaaaaaaaaaaarsssssssssss FTWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!

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Ticktoc
Ticktoc

I prefer gantries but if the pillars win out I would like to suggest:
1)Get rid of the blue vortex thing which appears when constructing a unit. It obscures the top of the tower (which looks good with the logo) and also looks odd if you change the camera angle as it sits so high in the air...if you drop a vehicle from that height you would smash it.
2)As an alternative could you make the tower "draw in" the experimental just like the original fat boy is currently drawn in in the current Revamp version. This way you still get the feeling of anticipation/excitement as you see it nearly completed and it looks cool as well. This way the half-baked construction function would also work well/still make sense. The only way an opponent could stop construction would be to destroy the tower (just like with gantries).

Something just dropping from the sky just doesn't feel right and looses its epicness.

Cheers,
T.

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OverRated Author
OverRated

LOL "if you drop a vehicle from that height you would smash it" Its not dropped -_- its teleported -_-, Also the effect is a worm hole when the unit comes though its teleported to the ground is that to hard to understand -_-.

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OverRated Author
OverRated

Thought i would add so when a unit drops from a transport it would smash O_o

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Ticktoc
Ticktoc

My apologies, I did not notice the teleport effect but on taking a second look you are of course correct. However, I do feel your attempt at mockery was not really necessary. My other points are still valid though as I am hardly the only one to express that the current teleporting mechanism does not feel as good as the original gantry entry. They are merely suggestions though, no need to get personal.
T.

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leosake
leosake

Nobody is taking anything personal, and as a matter of fact, when I saw your post, it was a bit harsh (the criticism) in the first place, since you were making fun of the whole teleportation animation system, something people spend hours at modelling or programming it so that you can have fun with it ;)
Suggestions are always nice, as long as creative criticism....but do not forget the "creative" part guys...

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Ticktoc
Ticktoc

There is no way I was trying to make fun of it, my genuine initial impression was that the XP literally dropped out of the teleporter. I freely admit I was wrong but I was just describing what I thought I saw and was certainly not trying to mock it. Upsetting the creators was also not my intention as that just sabotages my own cause. In any case, if that is how my message was perceived then I am sorry, perhaps I could have chosen my words more carefully as I do appreciate you guys put in a lot of hours. Thanks.

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Lupus_of_nox_noctis
Lupus_of_nox_noctis

Why not repurpose the gantries to be able to produce several smaller units instead of just one?

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jlolment
jlolment

Keep the gantry. Warp pillars should be expensive as hell, but also allow access to all experimentals (unlike gantries, which would offer lower level ones). Effects for pillars should include slowly warping the object out of the ground over time, not immediately. Let people have base defenses other than stockpile gantries and resources to TP in the best units at the last minute.

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OverRated Author
OverRated

The Aeon gantry? it can build land and air so its unbalanced right there.

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Zsombi
Zsombi

:0 I can't choose.. I think both are good.

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Hollownerox
Hollownerox

I voted yes, but just a minor question, will the warp pillars have any defensive upgrades? Just wondering because I always found the old gantries annoying to defend due to their size and always wished they had built in defenses.

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leosake
leosake

on the contrary, i never build any structure upgrades...I solely rely on separate defensive structures (e.g. towers, shields)

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OverRated Author
OverRated

Yes by the time you unlock a experimental to build you shouldn't need addons.

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videogamelover
videogamelover

I abstain from this vote, too hard to decide

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MarkusDec
MarkusDec

The best option would be, if we could used both :33
That feel about building some experimental from gantry is great :33

But that idea of warp pillar and teleporting experimental into battle is awesome!

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