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Because CIS is the best side in the whole SW universe... Isn't it's obvious?

No, not really..

Ya, really it is. If I had my way to rewrite star wars, I would have palpatine take over the universe with the CIS.

the clones will crush you all!

Yep. Clones totally slaughter droids. No questions asked.

CIS is superior

FOR THE REBEL ALLIANCE!! Sorry, can't beat the X-wing :)

Screw the X-wing... The TIE Defender is where it's at ;)

No the standard TIE fighter is the best fighter ever! Cheap and quick to produce combined with its speed and considerable firepower for a ship of its size. ...But between the Republic and the CIS the Republic gets pwnz0red!

Empire FTW!

hell yea. the cis woulda won the war if it was allowed to drag on

The CIS is the best, Kamino would have fallen at the start of the war if palpatine didn't sabotaged it.

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yea but even if the CIS had a fleet 10x the size of the Republic, the Republic always won those fights about 98% of the time

That's because of the Republic being portrayed as the protagonists, and therefore, their victories are shown more than their defeats.

ROFL, if their fleet was 10x the size of the Republic's, then the CIS would have overrun the Republic in the first week of the war. That didn't happen, which obviously means that the Republic either had a fleet that was as large as the CIS's, or it's fleet was a lot better. The war lasted three years, so that means that the Republic's navy wasn't puny, and the CIS's wasn't outrageously enormous.

don't forget the whole war was orchestrated by one guy palpatine, who controlled both sides, and manipulated battle outcomes as seen in the clone wars tv shows multiple times. CIs or REpcublic victory could be no more based on skill than just on extreme planning(obviously there are exceptions). In the onset of the war, the CIS had a series of staggering blows to the republic. a clone>droid, but the CIS had hundreds of millions more. z said on an earlier picture they had droids in the quintillions. tehre were about a few hundred million clones. do the math.

WTF!!!! WHERE DID YOU GET THOSE NUMBERS MAN!!! do you know how many 1 quitillion is, thats more than the human mind can comprehend, it would take centuries to build that many with 1,000,000 factories, and hundreds of millions of clones, dude you blew that war WAAAAAY out of proportion, the CIS probably had in total around 50-100 million droids, the republic had 2-6 million clone, around a 20:1 number ratio, thats more like it

@i_dont_want_a_name & DarkTrooper9847
Yeah, no. IF the CIS had a quintillion droids (which they DIDN'T) they still could have overrun the Republic. They still had millions of droids in the front lines, which means that the clones had to have millions also. No, the Republic most certainly DID NOT have only 2-4 million clones troopers. Imagine our small planet, imagine our small country, the US, compared to the Star Wars universe. 16 million US citizens served in the military during WWII. Only 16 million. If that was just for one World War, then how much do you think that the GAR needed to fight the war of attrition that was the Clone Wars? I don't know the exact figures, but there is a lengthy passage on the GAR page on Wookiepedia about this subject. Makes for some very interesting reading. Just type in "GAR" on Wookiepedia. It should be somewhere near the bottom of the page. The idea that the Seps had quadrillions or quintillions of droids and didn't use them is, in my humble opinion, ridiculous. Estimations for a realistically sized clone army run at either +600 million, or 18 billion. I don't know which one to take, as I don't know how many planets were fought on, but the GAR was most likely between those 2 numbers. If I did know the number of planets fought over and the number of battlegrounds, then maybe I could figure out how many clones were deployed to each planet, but that number would still be faulty. You would also need what units were off the front line, how many clones were in support services, how many were medics, pilots, vehicle operators, how many vehicles were deployed with a clone legion, etc, etc.

I honestly don't feel like getting into a drawn out debate over the size of the armies of the Clone Wars. All I want to do is clear up some numbers here and there. This is just how I see it. I got all of this from Wookiepedia, the Star Wars: Complete Locations book, and the Republic Commando series.

@DarkTrooper9847
Yes, I do know about Palpatine controlling the war. If I didn't I would not be posting here. But for the CIS to build "quintillions" of battle droids, and then NOT use them is just plain stupid. Imagine how much money that would cost, and how long that would take. IMO, totally unrealistic. I just don't see why Palpatine would order the CIS to build all of them, and then not use them. He could scare the Republic's citizens by just using propaganda.

And yes, I did do the math. Look at my other post above this one.

Also, seriously. What do you mean NOT use them? They used B1s for everything. Look at the series. Having watched it myself now up to the most current episode, and read through the wiki on the B1 again. 4 Quintillion were produced with at least these variants: Security, Firefighter, Two models of Officer, Pilot and the basic combat model. That's at least 6 Variants there and half of them are combat roles. Now, alot of those basic models served as ship crews. On top of it, the CIS was not the only user of B1s. So it's not to say that they exclusively used those 4 Quintillion that were produced. I imagine at least 1/8 of that had to be produced before the war.

So now you have them in the hands of other armies, other users, I'm sure the Trade Federation are still using them aboard their own ships for shipboard defense and helping 'enforce' their occasional blockade.
The CIS are using them in EVERY conceivable role you can imagine as well. What else is there to suck up the large numbers? Oh yes. The Losses. With 120+:1 kill ratios of droids to Clones and nearly 500:1 or better for lowly Padawans alone, not even getting into the hundreds or thousands of lost droids for every Jedi knight or Master killed you have quite a large discrepancy there.

Now, getting on with fleets, the droids tended to be really bad shots and CIS ships were normal vessels which would have benefited from entirely Organic crews. So even if they had a 10:1 ratio of ships, the skill of the Republic navy combined with the firepower of their own larger, better armoured and armed Cruisers(Which seemed to double as Light carriers) is capable of making up the difference against the CIS navy which appeared to mostly be Frigate class ships.

Also, never doubt numbers. Never never. In WWII, after Pearl Harbour, the Japanese navy greatly outclassed the U.S. Navy in both ships and crew experience as well as Aircraft carriers, aircraft and experienced pilots. We only won that war by very slim margins and a little miracle called "Midway". If it weren't for god proving his existence for a moment by guiding some of our bombs into the decking of the Akagi, Soryu, Kaga and Hiryu, there would have some landings on the California beaches within the same month.

That was me actually. Not Z. It was on the picture of the B2 droid swarms. :P Z's answer here is also correct though.

Thank you. CIS still pwns.

dont forget mustafar