The RAT tank image

Yes, overzised target that cannot be penetrated by any anti tank guns anyway. While the Allieds are just wasting their ammunition on targeting that monster, but doing no damage at all because they lack sufficient guns, the fast E-50 & E-75 tanks that were hiding/covering behind the Ratte are quickly rushing forwarth and spreading out over the battlefield like a fast growing virus and take out the Allied tanks which are still shocked by that huge giant machine. Meanwhile the big 280mm artillery naval cannons give heavy firesupport, which equals a entire Russian artillery battalion. Me262s and Horten Ho XVIII as interceptors are giving air support to protect it against bombers and other low flying ground attcking planes, while the Arado 234 turbojet bombers are sent to the French coast to attack the landing ships at the beaches to cut through Allied reinforcement lifeline.

pofit?

american and british airpower would still overwelm and then b-29 and b-36's would pound it into the ground

Hmm, sure? only 100 Me262s are accounted for the destruction of over 510 Allied planes. And most of the Me262s were only destroyed while take-off because then they were most vulnerable. My personal estimate is that only about 30 or 40 of them were ever shot down in the air. And the E-50 E-75s were also way ahead over Allied tanks, and I really mean WAY AHEAD (auto loader system, night scope devices, new range altitude optics etc). We can be Glad that the War ended early enough or the outcome maybe had been changed... Just thinking about that makes my hackles raise.

the allies had jet aircraft prototypes already u know, the gloster meteor was already done and flying in early 1943, and other aircraft prototypes were already flying by the end of the war and also remember that the germans had extremly limited manpower compared to that of the allies meaning that german k/d ratio had to be unimaginable in the air
p.s. p-80 shooting stars were goin to b ready for combat in numbers in the fall of 1945

Yea, allied airpower would overhelm anyway, since P51 was better than Me262 oddly enuf and just bomb the thing back to stone age, also artilery would make short work of this thing to. Also think how long would it take to fix the threads if they would get blow off... There's no point in a thing like this, just useless waste of everything and a nice target practice.

I don't belive that, P51 had puny weapons compared to tge Me626, and was like 200km/h slower. One can't trust every friggin discovery documentary -.-

blitzfire5, But only with airplanes the USA can not occupy territory, so they are still dependent on ground forces, my guess was that if the Allied supply lifeline was cut they would not receive any supply from the French coasts anymore. Haha you don't need to tell me that it was close to impossible for the Germans to change the war, I just tried to figure our WHAT exactly the Ratte could be used for :P

It was a piece of **** that's why the German Generals didn't allow it for service, it was only a obnoxious fantasy of a austrian tyrant named Hitler

and Yes, Me262 made the P51 its b*tch any day ;)

"Me262 made the P51 its b*tch any day ;)" History prooves otherwise...

Not really, the only time allied fighters could actually engage the damn thing was when it was taking off or landing.

the same program I've heared the P-51 kicked Me 262 arse they seriously CLAIMED the b17 could hit a barrel from 10.000 feets with the Norden bombsight. This was just a saying among pilots, a ridicoulus exaggeration, but they said it like a TRUE FACT on History Channel. Like they said Sherman burnt like paper becasue it had a fuel engine, though the real reason was the ammunition. ********!

Yeah, the German tanks ran on petrol too. It was never a fuel problem.

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Derp

Panzer IV has only 50mm armor

ALso, according to the video result, the T34 scores 100% for firepower and armor protection even better than the Pan ther ranking Derp.

The British tall boy would do a number on it with a direct hit & the US wouldn't **** around they would just nuke it if it really became such a problem.

Heavy duty land mines would also **** its tracks up making it an immobilized over sized target.

Destroying such a monster is impossible but disabling it & making it useless to the German war effort is easy for overwhelming allied air power. I care not how many Me 262s the Nazis had the US was pumping out P47s, P51, B17s, & B29s like its Sherman tanks in the 10s of thousands. Germany was outnumbered & fighting a 3 front war.

It lost any chance of surviving after D-day which sealed its fate even to it was the Russians & Eastern Euro partisan units that did the most damage.

Also the US already had a fighter in near production at wars end that could easily keep up with the German jets & its was a piston powered conventional craft.

It was the Vought V-173 / XF5U-1 AKA "Flying Flapjack" or "Flying Pancake"

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haha, that thing looks slow as hell, and I bet it can't fly faster then 222km/h

oh, and the Vought XF5U-1 was never finnished, the test model couldn't even take off. It had a high Teoretical Speed, but seriously, they never made it work. Oh, did I mention it vibrated to much to be able to fly?

it wasn't much crazier than some of the stuff the Nazis were making :/ & last I head the prototype flew multiple times & their was no flight of the production model as it was completed when the project was canceled.

The fact remains that the US outnumbered the Germans on a production level to the point that they were also supplying massive amounts of war materials to the Brits & Soviets as well as therm selves.

This monster of a tank or better yet just a mobile target / fortress would not be a major threat of the wunderwaffen that the Germans needed to win the war.

ehh, the nukes were always going to japan. Had the Americans dropped it on Germany or anywhere in europe there would've been a (mega)tonne of problems for the soviets, british, french as well as themselves.

Though the Germans was long forward in nuclear development, the reason they stopped was because a miss-calculation: To make a gun-type fission bomb you need a critical mass of uranium-235, the mass is 50 kilograms, the germans had 250 kilos, BUT they was sure they needed 500 kilos, and that wasn't realistic. They realised sucha bomb could never be dropped from a plane and was therefor useless.

I bet the scientist that made the error did it in purpouse, who wouldn't be afraid of giving 5 nukes with a power unseen to an evil dictator that wouldn't mind useing them.

Not really if the US would 1st drop a nuke on Germany in Europe it would give them a reason to tell Stalin to **** off when it came to the Soviets taking control off nearly all of Eastern Europe after the war. Poland, Hungary, Estonia, Czechoslovakia & many other nations would not have had to been sold out as geo political bargaining chips.
It would have put the morally just allies (they should have been but new historical evidence says other wise >>) in a position of power & end all major conflicts for at least 10 years while letting a war torn Europe "freely" rebuild it self. However thos in power for various reason chose the historical outcome they (The US & USSR) chose to throw away other nations & people freedoms for the sake of power for them selves which led to competition between the 2 & thus the Cold War.

Now I understand why Stalin would do this but the fact the Roosevelt willing did this & later Truman also expanded upon it is what truly makes me ashamed to call my self an American. I sympathize & pity British Prime Minister Winston Churchill for he was against this & later pushed out of the power loop & forced to go along with such a disgraceful act.

& lets face it Stalin wasn't stupid & against that kind of brute fire power he would be forced to back off his territorial gains/plans.

Let it be know that Hitler & Mussolini weren't the only dictators in Europe at that time.

Look people its historical fact that the Soviets were only interested in expanding their own empire. They were a dictatorship disguised as a socialist communist nation but the fact remains Joseph Stalin's Russian was just as brutal as the Nazi one >>

The US (Roosevelt & later Truman) willing made a deal with the Soviets selling out Eastern European nations to pacify Stalin who wanted to extend Soviet territory as far as Germany.

The allies also didn't really have a choice in the matter since none of them were willing to go to war with the USSR after Germany was defeated just to protect the freedoms of people in Eastern Europe who quite frankly didn't mean **** to their geo political goals.

The only real bargaining chip the allies could have used was the atom bomb which would have made the Soviets think twice about pushing their "sphere of influence" upon Eastern Europe with their puppet governments.

Then maybe the armies & soldiers in exile from Poland to Czechoslovakia would have been spared their betrayal by the allies & avoided the Soviet Siberian gulag death camps when they returned to what was left of their homes & families after the war.

Africa Campaign was only fault of the Italian politician Benito Mussolini, he started to invade Africa and failed hard, the Germans, which were already busy on other fronts had to jump in to help the poorly equipped italians. Thus the German army was even more divided.

Russia ate Germany alive? 10 million Russian soldiers KIA 4 mio German soldiers KIA on the eastern front, who got their ***** kicked again? -.-

russians were mowed down but they could take such losses since they had many times more manpower than germany and btw tanker, im never claiming the german war machine was bad, its just impossible to fight against a force so large and not so far behind in tank and aircraft design

statistics, ain't it a wonderful thing? Showing facts i numbers... *choosen numbers after your own purpouse*

While I don't know the true nature of these numbers I have to agree with Comrade Stalin, as far as I know those 10 millions Russian cassulties could have been the number of all Russian living beings killed by nazi shells and bullets, including the russian ants and birdies.

No bears however have ever been killed in battle, all incidents of killed bears was made by friendly fire.

Sure they had quite a few losses, but i have to agree with you here too comrade 50 million is a complete overstatement.

hmm, fine, but we can still compare the tank losses on the eastern front.

1941 German tank Losses 2,758 - Russian tank Losses: 20,500 (Operation Barbarossa)
1942: 2648 - 15,000 (Battle of Stalingrad)
1943: 6,362 - 22,400 (Operation citadel, Battle at Kursk and Prokharovka)
1944: 6,434 - 16,900 (Battle of Danzing, Battle of Debrecen)
1945: 7,382 - 8,700 (Battle of Berlin, Seelow Hights)

In total: 25,584 - 83,500

(Obviously, I added only a few important battles

What.

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