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Arcones
Arcones Apr 30 2013, 1:12pm says:

I think you may be misunderstanding the point of the lore...

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Adenn`Verda
Adenn`Verda Apr 30 2013, 1:18pm replied:

I know I am, but don't care :P

Actually let me explain:

This new timeline only helps further Ori's wants for the mandalorians while completely hushes out me and wout's thoughts. (keep in mind I don't know what wout wants, just assume for what I've read).

He has created a new mandalore who in turn passes the title to him when in reality I would've been mandalore at the time or in any case wout would make the call since he is the latest mandalore.

I want to discuss this in further detail with ori but honestly, he isn't willing for a compromise because according to him "He is proud of his mandalorian reforms". Proud or not imo he should find something that will make all mandos happy. That or I can always merely join the empire with a new char.

Anyways yeah, this lore will be set in stone forever so better try to make it so everyone is happy about it now rather then later.

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=СРБ=Ori`verda
=СРБ=Ori`verda Apr 30 2013, 1:30pm replied:

"make all mandos happy" Hence why I wrote the Reforms the way I wrote them.

Also, the fannon Mand'alor has not made me Mand'alor, he just named me Ori'verda which is a title most of my characters had/have.

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Adenn`Verda
Adenn`Verda Apr 30 2013, 1:41pm replied:

Yes, but sadly you failed in your attempt thus you should be willing to make compromises.

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=СРБ=Ori`verda
=СРБ=Ori`verda Apr 30 2013, 1:59pm replied:

I could say the same, you are very much against my Reforms which is not really a compromise. I however am willing to change some of my Reforms which I have done after discussing it with other people.

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Ten10dix
Ten10dix Apr 30 2013, 2:30pm says:

1) It wasn't a battle. It was a "Imperial fleets jump in, see the massive Mandalorian defenses, jump out". No battle.

Those defenses were disputable, as the Mandalorians had only one sector and enough defenses to hold out an Armada plus 4-6 fleets. So in the new lore that is removed.

2) I have written the minimum that is required to understand what has happened. Ori said there were reforms and a Mandalorian Civil War against the Mandalore at that time. Please discuss this with Ori, because it was far too time consuming to get even this basic Mandalorian lore out, and even then none of you really like it. Like I said, talk with the others and come to some sort of agreement that is fair for everyone.

3) Sorry, but the Uprising is required for the lore, as I've told Ori. Keep in mind that many people are losing out on stuff. I, for example, am losing the entire Resistance battles pretty much, the one I like the most was Bonadon, in which I believe me and HH destroyed 2 Imperial fleets.

I'm sorry, but the only faction I have problems with in the lore is the Mandalorians. You're a complicated bunch, and I don't just mean the Mandalorians themselves (they're quite simple to understand, really). I've had long talks with Ori over Xfire just to produce the few lines that compose the Uprising. I've left it all open, mentioning nothing specific. If you want a new, more detailed lore, explain to me what happened and I'll write it in. Or just write it in yourselves.

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Ρrʌжis
Ρrʌжis Apr 30 2013, 2:42pm says:

I don't see why your bitching so much, I have to mothball the faction I've been working on for months. All Ten and the others are trying to do is let us start fresh without all the ridiculous and unfair stuff we had before. You can show off whatever Mando lore you want, just let the new lore stand, for the sake of simplicity and everyone else's sanity.

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Ten10dix
Ten10dix Apr 30 2013, 2:48pm replied:

Pretty much what I said in a nutshell xD.

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Headhunter128
Headhunter128 Apr 30 2013, 3:03pm says:

This discussion is getting old.

If the Mandalorians are unhappy being credited with turning the tide,then give it to someone else.

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=СРБ=Ori`verda
=СРБ=Ori`verda Apr 30 2013, 4:05pm replied:

Please don't use what me, Wout or Adenn say as the basis for the collective Mandalorian opinion.

Thank you.

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Ten10dix
Ten10dix Apr 30 2013, 4:25pm replied:

I believe HH was using "Mandalorians" to replace the Mandalorian players in the RP, in other words you, Wout and Adenn.

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=СРБ=Ori`verda
=СРБ=Ori`verda May 1 2013, 5:27am replied:

I know, but he still used Adenn's viewpoint as the basis for the collective Mandalorian opinion, with Mandalorians I too meant the Mandalorian players.

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_w_
_w_ Apr 30 2013, 3:41pm says:

With alldue respect and no offence to ori, but his stories can be a bit onesided at times. For example: i don't think you could really speak of a mando civil war when no battles where fought? i'm assuming this is based upon vivec <-> adden ?

Ensuite ori seems to play a big part because he's the only one who added lore so far, i'll follow soon. i'll hope you do too in a sensible way.

Furthermore what praxis said.


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=СРБ=Ori`verda
=СРБ=Ori`verda Apr 30 2013, 3:46pm replied:

Haven't I mentioned I have written up battles in the Battle-Net? No? Well check it out!

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=СРБ=Ori`verda
=СРБ=Ori`verda Apr 30 2013, 4:04pm replied:

That sounded hostile, sorry.

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Adenn`Verda
Adenn`Verda Apr 30 2013, 6:15pm says:

Well, ten and HH. You guys actually have some sort of "footprint" in the rp lore while the rest of us are merely throwing away all our previous history. I personally think this is the reason why you 2 don't understand how it feels for the rest of us. Both of your characters (which died anyways) are mentioned so you have a "legacy" of sorts.

Now I agree, I should work this out with ori not you guys but I wanted to bring my thoughts to light since Ori is largely unphased by my concerns for the mandalorians.

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Headhunter128
Headhunter128 Apr 30 2013, 6:45pm replied:

For what it is worth, I killed off Cronus because his "Legacy" (Not what I would call it. Lol ) left a sour taste in my mouth. I allowed Ten to change his history because Ten believed it would serve the lore best and I trust Ten to make it work.

I am also giving up the Fel Empire and my old char Loreck Fel simply because we are not enough role players to make the decision to keep it justice. I cared about the Fel Empire, not Cronus. So I do know how you feel.

But you should know that it is not your ENTIRE history that is taken away. Only that of the last few months.

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Ten10dix
Ten10dix Apr 30 2013, 6:51pm replied:

Actually the only legacy Kairn leaves is him destroying the Empire. Not much of a legacy, to be honest, and not his finest moment.

I have explained this many times before: I have not mentioned any names or characters to give everyone complete liberty to do what they will with their character in the new lore. Since history has changed, maybe they'll want to do something different with their chars? Praxis did, for example, and now joins the Federation.

I can't put all your chars into the lore because if you disagree with what I did with them, I'll have to edit it. Much simpler just to put down the basics and allow others to explain what their chars did during the lore.

If it really bothers you, once everyone has written what they did during the lore I can add it in.

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Ρrʌжis
Ρrʌжis May 1 2013, 12:22am replied:

I'm sure we've all had moments in the RP where we have regretted making a decision with our characters we probably shouldn't have or might have not made sense, or was just plain ridiculous and it left a bad taste in ours mouths as HH said. This gives us a chance to start over and make up for all that.

I honestly couldn't ask for more and I'm willing to make some sacrifices in the process if it means everything will work out for the better.

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Adenn`Verda
Adenn`Verda May 1 2013, 2:41am replied:

As I said I'll see if I can work things out with ori. Otherwise the Empire is going to have a new member.

Either situation, I'm pretty happy.

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=СРБ=Ori`verda
=СРБ=Ori`verda May 1 2013, 5:29am replied:

Work out what with me? I don't control the lore and I am willing to listen to suggestions but not ultimatums.

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Adenn`Verda
Adenn`Verda May 1 2013, 8:20am replied:

The lore of the mandalorians. Ten has written it up because you told him for it to be that way. I'm not happy about it, not even a little.

That aside the mandalorian reforms thing that you want to implement.

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=СРБ=Ori`verda
=СРБ=Ori`verda May 1 2013, 8:25am replied:

I had no hand in the writing of the lore, the only thing I added was a Mandalorian Civil War to explain why the Empire could defeat the Mandalorians.

I have checked with Wout, he likes it too so I suppose it will stay however I am still willing to compromise if you can write what you would change in it and why.

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Ten10dix
Ten10dix May 1 2013, 8:29am replied:

And the reforms, Ori. You asked for them to be in, not me.

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=СРБ=Ori`verda
=СРБ=Ori`verda May 1 2013, 8:32am replied:

You prefer it that every Mandalorian is angry about your lore? Be glad we reached a solution at all that everyone can agree to even a bit.

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Ten10dix
Ten10dix May 1 2013, 8:36am replied:

I honestly don't see why the Mandalorians are "angry" at my lore, they have the honor of finishing off the Empire's days as supreme power. They literally created the current Galactic situation, with help from the Fels of course.

It seems the Mandos really do have a problem with my lore. I am willing to edit it, and give all credit to the Resistance, the only other group that could possibly do something about the Empire. Although them defeating the Empire is highly unlikely (one of the reasons I wanted the Mandos to do this) I'm sure no one will mind that if to stops all these stupid arguments.

And I am simply correcting you. You said "The only thing I added was the Civil War", I am simply stating you also added in the reforms. Which is true.

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=СРБ=Ori`verda
=СРБ=Ori`verda May 1 2013, 8:41am replied:

Stop saying Mandalorians are angry, it is one person who is angry and the rest are slightly upset but have made their peace with it.

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Ten10dix
Ten10dix May 1 2013, 9:34am replied:

"You prefer it that every Mandalorian is angry about your lore?"

Note that I wrote angry like this: "angry", which means I was using it for lack of a better word. Just replaced it with "annoyed" if you prefer.

Like I said, I can edit the lore if you want, it seems to have created far too many problems than it should have. Although it may seem silly that the Resistance defeats the Empire, I'm sure no one will mind.

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=СРБ=Ori`verda
=СРБ=Ori`verda May 1 2013, 10:30am replied:

*Sigh*

Taking words out of context eh?

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_w_
_w_ May 1 2013, 8:40am says:

The reforms were planned out longer, before we knew of any rp reboot and when adenn was absent.

About the lore, i just want to get on with writing my own instead. i'm happy with it, deal with it adenn.

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Well, I have issues with it.

Now you may ask: Why are you starting a new image about it Adenn? Well that is because I have a feeling no one will read the old one.

You can't complain! You should have been here where we wrote this!
Well, no one even told me these vast changes were occurring until today so I couldn't be bothered to come in.

So I have several problems with it.
1) I don't like the idea of the empire having conquered Mandalore. You guys attacked and we defended it and came out victorious. I'm proud of that victory and don't want it forgotten. I would say include that battle (if you want) and just say the mandalorians were never conquered.
2) Me and where I fit in. Well, I was mandalore at the time. I don't see why create a new fanon one when I was in command.
3) Mandalorian victories against the empire. I WANT this included mostly because it is thanks to this that the resistance ever even defeated the empire. I captured Jester(The high sith inquisitor) and then destroyed Jolee's fleet and captured him. These are 2 massive victories that I'm proud of. I don't want them forgotten.
Rather then the dumb uprising why not just add those 2 victories?

AAAAAANNNNNNDDDD that is it. I know you guys have overall fixed the mando things but I just can't roll with it, especially considering the large impact we had in the downfall of the empire.

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