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Mike Pence Creator
Mike Pence - - 3,288 comments

Touchy subject, I'm not going to mention other faiths but I will say this.

When you accept Christ, you don't spend decades seeking inner peace and a sense of fulfillment, you just get it upon conversion. And I say that from personal experience.

That's what happens when you've made yourself right with God and embraced Him.

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Veronica_ Author
Veronica_ - - 1,499 comments

So, your religion is real?

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Mike Pence Creator
Mike Pence - - 3,288 comments

Veronica, that's a personal decision one has to make for themselves to believe. I can tell you it's real from my experience, but unless you've got faith, you'll simply brush it off and move on. One has to sincerely believe.

To me, this is no religion, it's a relationship with the one called Jesus Christ. It's a daily walk, a lifelong friendship and journey. But it's one I intend to walk nonetheless, as far as I can go till this mortal coil can go no more.

Christianity isn't a *mainstream faith* that treats everyone as a statistic. It's on a person by person and individual basis. A walk with God, something one should be honored to have. And it's everyday, every hour, all the time forever.

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Veronica_ Author
Veronica_ - - 1,499 comments

Jesus is God. God is Jesus. Did I miss something?

So, I can actually dedicate this song Youtube.com to God? It's awesome! Let's assume God is benevolent and all. He could be a neat soul-mate.
Hmm St-listas.20minutos.es God is mine, back away! He'll need eternity to take care of me! :D

How do I contact God? I need a phone number? Maybe he has a mod-db account? :D

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Mike Pence Creator
Mike Pence - - 3,288 comments

- One Catholic teaching I agree with Wholeheartedly.
*God the Father
*God the Son
*God the Holy Spirit

Agreed and Indeed. :-)

If you want to contact Him, it's why we pray and have time spent studying God's word. Time spent just meditating on the word and prayer brings one closer to Him.

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Veronica_ Author
Veronica_ - - 1,499 comments

Are you 100% sure there's a... the God. There's only one God, right? You're convinced there's a/the God that will sort things out someday. You don't really need religion at this point, only God.

Is possible that God created countless things and then it just got out of hand? Gabriel rebelled and all... God miscalculated and put way too much faith in his creation... and then he started solving issues... I mean, if it was a perfect plan, we wouldn't be here now, but somewhere else... in perfect shape and all.

God: Fundamental spiritualists and extreme Atheists, that's what I get for trying so hard... God damn it. :D

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Mike Pence Creator
Mike Pence - - 3,288 comments

Yes.

You don't need religion, just that personal relationship with the Lord. Once that relationship begins, the rest just starts falling into line. All you have to do, is remain faithful. God deals with you in spirit about things, and sets you right as time goes along. Just walk with Him.

Personally, I stick to the belief that God knew what choice Adam and Eve would make, he knew what the creation would do, and he knew what things would happen. But he decided we needed to have the ability to choose for ourselves, he gave us free will. Even knowing it would lead people down the wrong path and lead to destruction.

But God didn't want a race of robots, he wanted people with their own minds, their own choices, their own feelings, their own spirits.

So He had this solution, what if He could be with these individuals everyday, everyhour, all the time, and forever? And help them with the right choices. Be their friend, their counselor, their protector, their provider, and their Savior. If it wasn't for Christ and what happened on Calvary, none of that would be possible. People now have the choice, to accept Him, and have Him forever.

You can now be a Friend of God.

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Veronica_ Author
Veronica_ - - 1,499 comments

How is fossil record consistent with humankind's divine creation? As though God got tired of evolution(he himself put into effect) and just created us to speed things up.

Countless species have the so-called free will, but they merely do things out of habit in order to survive. Familiar patterns and consistency.

Let's say I, you, our seemingly sophisticated species was made by God. Eve and Adam messed things up, then Jesus partly fixed our relation with God. But Jesus is God, so it would mean, God himself tries to contact our species after he, apparently, intentionally made us weak and imperfect when Even picked up the apple. I mean... I'm looking for something here... consistency... I just think God made a mistake and now we pay the price.

Countless holy people describe him/God as a perfect, flawless being. You make him look more real... he gave us this and took away that... In fact, you subtly/reluctantly suggest that God is way more human that people care or even dare to admit.

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Mike Pence Creator
Mike Pence - - 3,288 comments

What we know now, and what we don't know can be described like this. It's like seeing through a foggy glass jar. We only began existence a short while ago compared to the rest of the creation. Perhaps God was setting the stage for the show that would take place with us, getting things ready, setting the conditions just right using time and patience.

You don't think Lucifer just decided to rebel two days after his creation did you? To God, a thousand, million, even a billion years could be like a blink of an eye or a day. Could there be misinterpretation in the Genesis account? These are all legitimate points and questions. But for now we wait.

God did nothing to intentionally make us weak. Unless you count free will, knowing we would choose poorly from time to time. But that's what he wanted, people who could choose for themselves, not robots, hence why He gave Adam and Eve the choice in the garden of Eden (regarding the tree of life and the other with the knowledge of good and evil). Christ is the one who can remedy that choice dilemma. Because he works on the heart of the individual. So God had already known their would be a problem, but had already planned the solution.

It's what happens when you develop a relationship with the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. But there is no question to His power and divinity.

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Veronica_ Author
Veronica_ - - 1,499 comments

Evolution is inconsistent with our somewhat illusive divine origin. And our ancestors were more sophisticated than people care to admit. Our species has become completely dependent on technology. If we were to make sharp, precise tools now in the wild, we would perish on the spot. Our ancestors would clearly survive longer than us. The point is: life is about natural selection, procreation and survival overall. Without technology we're completely vulnerable- an inferior species.

If God can make anything via evolutionary processes and patterns, then why would he instantly make us in the first place.

It's all messed-up. Personally, I think God/deity/constant made a mistake once or twice. And all this assuming that God really exists. For now I'll be observing the universe and analyzing certain matters. And if I talk to God(possibly only to myself) then it's only my concern. If God is real or not, I sincerely hope these "long walks" help you somehow.

Artificial intelligence may get out of hand one day. There are robots that can actually learn and choose. In a weird way it sounds somewhat familiar. So, free will is equivalent to learning skills and adaptation overall.
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Mike Pence Creator
Mike Pence - - 3,288 comments

We have lordship over the rest of the creation thanks to ingenuity, like our Lord. But he's a step up in that He's God, our only superior. He not only has ingenuity, but he also has the power to make it be whenever or however he wants. The ultimate builder, our Forerunner.

To me there was no mistake, just a problem he knew would happen, and a solution he'd already devised. Even to the master of universe, some things need to take some time for those who are slower to understand, like me.

Yes, but robots (AI) don't have a soul our spirit, only *logic and reason*. Which would put them on par with Nazi Germany if they ever got out of hand, just a thousand times worse.

Skynet anyone?
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Veronica_ Author
Veronica_ - - 1,499 comments

Nano-robots are invasive and precise. They would subtly wipe us out if they were properly programmed.

Your AI statement conveys a hidden message. You're a witty person. :)

Well, we created them. One day they may wonder why they exist and what's their real purpose. And eventually, they might surpass us in every way, including the space exploration. If there's anything that can travel across the cosmos, it's clearly a sophisticated robot, possibly an entire army of robots.

Okay - Ak-hdl.buzzfed.com
Nano-robots await me! They should more often visit my peach. :D

Thanks for your valuable time and patience. You have nerves of steel. Certain people simply bail out when they talk with me. At first everything goes smoothly, then I go crazy. :D

See ya. I'll be unavailable for the time being.

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Veronica_ Author
Veronica_ - - 1,499 comments

I was wondering if you could shed some light on one particular matter. You see, some people clearly state that they kill others in the name of God. How can they even say something like that? Their course of action is mostly based on lies and greed, so they kill others for their own interest and, fortunately or not, in the name of religion. Where is God in this mess, I don't see him anywhere. Some people exploit the free will...

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Mike Pence Creator
Mike Pence - - 3,288 comments

In all honesty, the loss of any form of life is a tragedy.
But for a moment, lets take a look into the Book of Joshua.

God had made a promise with the people of Israel. There were to inherit the land of milk and honey, Canaan. But it was inhabited by all kinds of heathen tribes and warlike people's. According to archeological findings, there were also very wicked the inhabitants of Canaan were.

But God ordered there destruction. But why?
Couldn't there be a peaceful solution?

Take into account, the people there were extremely wicked, and into worship of idols and false gods, ranging from gods of war to even perversion. If Israel were to intermix with them, it would be disastrous and pollute and eventually destroy the lineage from which Christ was to come. Not to mention corrupt the tribes of Israel to a point they would no longer worship Jehovah as their God. And Christ did not exist yet, so these people couldn't be converted or softened at heart. Just as well, the hearts of men were much more hardened back then, even in Israel. So the order had to be followed, not just because the circumstances, but because of the way people were then.

So Joshua and the Israelites purged the land, like old school Space Marines from a Warhammer game, except their *Emperor* aided them in this cause greatly.

Your right, people do exploit God for wars when He in all honesty had nothing to do with it, but I'll admit, he'll do what he can to ease the suffering of His people when these things hit. But it is said that when Christ returns we will put down our swords and shields by the riverside and study war no more. So war is necessary for now, at least for defending our chosen way of life and families.

Because of Christ, I don't believe God back either side of wars anymore, because he works on both ends to bring people to Him.

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Mike Pence Creator
Mike Pence - - 3,288 comments

While God may support the general cause of one side of a war, like the allies liberating Europe in World War II, he'll also work with the other side and softening people's hearts.

In World War II, a American G.I. was wounded and helpless, lying in a foxhole.
When A German soldier came up and pointed his rifle ready to shoot.

Knowing his situation was hopeless and couldn't defend himself, the G.I. said only this, "Jesus Help Me".

The German slowly lowered his rifle, and then said in broken English,
"My mother was a Christian".

Then the German bandaged the G.I. up and let him on his way.

God can compel even enemies to show compassion to one another, even on the battlefield that is war. People can criticize that story however they like, but as they say, God works in mysterious ways.

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Beskamir
Beskamir - - 7,014 comments

I'm pretty sure that of all the beliefs out there Christianity is the most supported by actual evidence. (archeological, other sources, etc)

Although that said, skepticism is obviously valuable and can strengthen one's faith.

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Veronica_ Author
Veronica_ - - 1,499 comments

Constructive criticism is quite important. I'm a critically acclaimed wet-peach, sort of. Never-mind. :D

In essence, you're right.

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