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Velancious Creator
Velancious

Woah, he went off on them at the end!

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Anubis120
Anubis120

it was absoultly fantastic

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CommanderDef
CommanderDef

I think this one is exaggerated. You don't really know what happened to woman.

But yesterday I read that Polish smashed a priest, because he didn't want to exclude him from the church xD

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Sarge_Rho Author
Sarge_Rho

The woman died because the doctors refused to abort the fetus, which was going to be a miscarriage anyway. And they did so because of some retarded laws imposed by religious *************.

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CommanderDef
CommanderDef

That's what the video says... I think you didn't get my point.

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Medusa_Zenovka
Medusa_Zenovka

If a miscarriage can lead to death of the carrying mother, we know enough then. And I think its not the first case where a mother died because of miscarriage or the process of birth after all.

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ComradeWinston
ComradeWinston

Saw this last night, there were plenty of other stories to inspire outrage as well. The world always seems to fall apart no matter the progress made. :\

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Cyborg_Putin
Cyborg_Putin

This shows how mindless 99.9% of the people are... really hate this, I just hate it :/

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ElfFriend
ElfFriend

with this i agree, if somebody is in this situation, then they need to save whoever they can. but blaming religion for this isn't right either, since this for me would be considered an extreme case.

he screamed very loud near the end...which slightly angered me, especially the swears. which is ironic since he claims to want a "logic and reason conversation". and usually conversions dont include screaming, and swearing.

killing a perfectly fine baby is murder, which breaks a commandment, so it should be up to the doctor if he wants to perform it or not, since if i was the doctor then i would not want to take someones life...but an atheist that might not consider the baby a human yet(i'd blame evolution for that), might have no problem killing it. anyways this isnt the point. the point is that when the child is going to die anyways, and it might also mean the life of the mother, then an abortion is necessary. and if i was the Dr. and the abortion was necessary for the survival of the mother and/or the child was clearly going to die, then i would do what would have to be done. its only in the normal cases that its black and white, here being black and white makes you an extremest, so you have to notice the shades in between.

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Medusa_Zenovka
Medusa_Zenovka

but blaming religion for this isn't right either


No? The law and decision of those doctors was based on religious influenced laws! You are starting to see where the point of secularism is?

he screamed very loud near the end...which slightly angered me, especially the swears. which is ironic since he claims to want a "logic and reason conversation". and usually conversions dont include screaming, and swearing.


Since it was no conversation at all, but his own opinion, screaming and swearing is ok to express how ****** he is. Its his right for freedom of speech

but an atheist that might not consider the baby a human yet(i'd blame evolution for that), might have no problem killing it.


And that is where you are wrong.
Thegoodatheist.net

Abortion has nothing to do with evolution at all. Stop spreading false propaganda! Its about education, as you can read in the link (the study it refers to is linked as well). If the teens and adults know how they can avoid a pregnancy, them they have no need for an abortion at all.

the point is that when the child is going to die anyways, and it might also mean the life of the mother, then an abortion is necessary. and if i was the Dr. and the abortion was necessary for the survival of the mother and/or the child was clearly going to die, then i would do what would have to be done.


Agreed.

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Medusa_Zenovka
Medusa_Zenovka

Additionally on this topic:
Youtube.com

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ElfFriend
ElfFriend

Well I agree that people should educate themselves and refrain from sex if they don't what a child, since no drug will completely prevent pregnancy but the connection I was making was that because people have the mindset, "nothing will happen I should enjoy life to the fullest. I'll never get judged by some imaginary ghost, evolution is the answer to life."...etc (forgive me if I'm wrong about this but I'm just interpreting what evolution and atheism teach. So correct me if I'm wrong about what you guys believe in, instead of just bashing me for it) anyways to the point if someone thinks that way then they are bound to do something stupid. But when they follow God's law then preventing pregnancy is somehow very easy. I mean do not commit adultery, basically bans idiots having sex before getting married and once married I suppose most people want to have some family. Anyways sorry for ranting (again) just wanted to point out that the problem is much deeper then just should abortion be illegal.

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Sarge_Rho Author
Sarge_Rho

"forgive me if I'm wrong about this but I'm just interpreting what evolution and atheism teach."

You can't be any more wrong. Evolution says that life evolves, atheism says "proof of god or GTFO".

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Medusa_Zenovka
Medusa_Zenovka

refrain from sex if they don't what a child


No, I was refering to contraceptives - safer sex ftw. Condoms for example, because you cannot suppress the natural compulsion without creating physical and psychical damage.

nothing will happen I should enjoy life to the fullest. I'll never get judged by some imaginary ghost, evolution is the answer to life...etc (forgive me if I'm wrong about this but I'm just interpreting what evolution and atheism teach...


lol, you got it totally wrong... No listen carefully and learn:
- Evolutions says nothing about any god, it just explains how life evolved to its present state and that life will change to fit its envirenment.
- Atheism is... well, TheAmazingAtheist has a nice and short explanation for this: Youtube.com
Or you just read the discription of the video, if he speaks to fast for you.

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ComradeWinston
ComradeWinston

Apparently you aren't aware of Ireland's catholic dominated culture. Mother Teresa had gone there once and said to a massive crowd that all abortion and contraception should be banned, and of course the masses cheered on.

When the ignorance of a society kills, and when to know is no greater challenge than a Google search this is the sort of situation in its self in offensive.

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ElfFriend
ElfFriend

You realize how much against chatolics I am, right? So As I pointed out in the ^^past comments abortion should ONLY be used in cases where human life is at stake. Also humans should educate themselves and refrain from building a fireplace in the middle of their house. Roughly quoting someone who came and educated my class a while back, "sex is like a fire, when its in the right place, ie fireplace it helps and is good, but when you make a fire in the middle of your living room, you will burn your house down." So yeah I support you guys opinion on this to a point.

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