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Here are some Hitler christain quotes and articles about Hitlers faith:
Liberalslikechrist.org
Not just christianism, but all religions...
Simple.wikipedia.org
"24. We want to allow all religions in the State, unless they offend the moral feelings of the German race. The NSDAP is Christian, but does not belong to any denomination. The NSDAP will fight the Jewish self-interest spirit, and believes that our nation will be strongest only if everyone puts the common interest before self-interest."
Remember guys: I'm atheist and I'm not a nazi. But I don't like the image of Hitler that people created. He was not the monster people think, he was a guy with ideas and power, just like the other ones we know, he was not special.
Hitler, Stalin, mostly all popes and a lot of politics are all the same.
"He's not a monster." He and his followers tortured beyond imagination and killed 6 million innocent Jews, even infants!
The Catholic Church did the same, the communist regime did the same...
I'll not begin with a debate about this. But, death is the key to progress, we can only evolve when people die or there is risk to, believe me or not. As I said before, he was not a monster, he was just a guy with ideas and power.
True, but that isn't the way to do it. Lol you're crazy in my opinion, but I do understand where you're coming from.
What do you mean "where you're coming from" ?
It's a figure of speech. I meant I understand your opinion and respect it.
Yes. He was a human. Just like all of us - capable of good and evil. He wanted first to go to an art school and be an artist. And we had best not forget - he had a bit of help running the military industrial complex responsible for the torture, murder and hate crimes.
But perhaps we could admit he was a bit of a monster - after all, at the end of the day...most humans are.
Deathblow for all those who claim Hitler was atheist. Poor fools.
Hey Cervi I think it's better if we just ignorim him/her/it, it's the only way to get rid of trolls, trust me ;)
Are we going to keep voting down each other till what ?
Jajaja, remember that we have 2-3 trolls donwvoting here ;).
Emmm...How come nobody seems to have noticed that this quote is from 1928, which is the exact same time as when Hitler was fighting like mad to get Germany's Catholic population to support him and the Nazi Party?
No offense to anybody here, I'm just saying that there's two sides to every coin. Hitler probably would have said anything to get various ethnic and religious groups to side with him. Because of that, a lot of Hitler's quotes tend to contradict each other.
Exactly, and, as I've posted before (and I got voted down a lot of times) the nazi party wasn't catholic and since Hitler was one of the leaders, he was one of those who wrote the manifest. :)
You know there is a theory out there that the Holocaust was part of God plan to fulfill a certain prophecy in the New Testarment, the part where the the Jews and their desendents take the blame for spilling Jesus's blood...
So in a sense, Hitler was "just following orders" (divine or delusional, orders are orders...)
(kinda like the part where God "harden" the pharaoh's heart in order to show off his power & glory).
By this line of thought, all suffering everywhere is just for the enhancement of God's glory...
I take it you are referring to several verses in the Bible where it seems that God "hardens" Pharaoh's heart. What's important to know is that in these passages, the word "harden" translates to "qashah" which is pretty much the Hebrew word for "cocky". So, even if Pharaoh got all proud and hoity-toity, he still had free will.
PS: The paragraph below is somewhat unrelated yet still quite interesting. If you're sick of this topic, feel free to stop here.
An interesting theory proposed by numerous theologians is that God does not control the future of our lives; rather, He simply knows every possible outcome. This would make sense, as we obviously have the ability of free will, therefore ruling out the possibility of God being in control over our personal future. Even if God knew every possible outcome, that still counts as being omnipotent, which is exactly what the Bible describes Him as.
And I'm sure that the first borns of Egypt so deserved to die because their leader was "cocky"...
But it was still God who had tampered with the Pharaoh's thought process, even if indirectly, thus robbing him of his free will...
To quote Exodus 10:27 "But the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart, and he would not let them go." (KJV)
Even if harden in this case means "cocky" it's still God and not the Pharaoh doing the hardening.
Just think about it, it's so easy to say about quitting addiction but there are things beside free will that affect one's ability to choose. Now inmanging something much stronger than any addiction in the world working in a certain direction, it's really hard by that time to say that there is any free will.
The fact remains that pride does not "rob" you of your free will. No matter how cocky a person can get, they can still choose their own path. In fact, having pride is quite likely to give a person even MORE options, seeing as it often works as the mental equivalent of adrenaline. So yes, Pharaoh had a very clear choice. Out of his own ego, he chose to reject Moses' request, even though he knew fully well that it would merit severe consequences.
There's even more debate regarding whether the verse is even properly translated. At first glance, this poorly translated sticks out like a sore thumb in the book of Exodus---that is, until the reader notices several other passages in the same book that explicitly say Pharaoh hardened his own heart. The fact is, both are true, in their own way.
Let me give a simple, somewhat modernistic explanation...
Imagine that you're the Pharaoh. You're filthy rich, your subjects say you're a god, and you're the ruler of the world's most powerful nation at the time. One day, after you've just finished banging one of your numerous concubines, some raggedy-*** freak shows up in your throne room. Furthermore, he claims he's some "messenger of God" and that you're supposed to let all of the Hebrew scum go free. Seriously? What kind of moron does he think you are? To prove that his God is in fact more awesome than your empire, he takes his rod, tosses it on the ground, and it turns into a snake. Cool trick. Kinda freaky too, but big deal. Chuckling to yourself, you summon your wizards/gurus, and have them do the same trick, turning their rods into snakes. This Moses guy is so screwed. But...hold on...WTF!!? The freakin' snake this freakin' Hebrew freak conjured from his freakin' staff just freakin' ate your wizards' freakin snakes!! SCREW YOU MOSES!! The Hebrew freak just owned you! In short...you are p*ssed. Really p*ssed. That little mutha' is gonna pay. You don't give a darn about his "judgement" rantings, and you certainly aren't gonna let some stupid trick scare the crap out of you. Time to show this Moses freak who's in charge...
Now, back to the...future.
You see, God used Moses's warning to harden Pharaoh's heart. Pharaoh simply allowed his own ego to influence his reaction, thus solving the seeming paradox conveyed in the book of Exodus.
PS: The Bible doesn't actually say Pharaoh was doing his concubines before Moses came, but seeing as children were regarded in that period of Egyptian history as a sign of status, it's logical to assume Pharaoh might have done so. As far as I know, the Bible also doesn't record any instance in which Pharaoh swore excessively.
But what about the part where God told Moses exactly what will happen in the future, about that even after seeing the miracles that Pharaoh who let the Hewbrews go? That would imply that God has planned out the future and that Pharaoh had no other choice in the matter.
It's like those RPGS where the chooice box only has one button, there's still a sense of "free will", you can choose to click on that choice, or reload the game to start at an earlier date. Except in Pharaoh's case he didn't even have the "reload a save at an earlier date" option.
Ah, but here's where it gets interesting. I don't know if you read the spoiler section in my previous post, but I explained a theory regarding the nature of God. The core of the theory is that God does not control the future of our lives; rather, He simply knows every possible outcome. In a situation like the one you mentioned, it is quite possible that God was simply making a prediction regarding Pharaoh's decision, as it clearly states numerous times in the book of Exodus that Pharaoh hardened his own heart. Imagine a hyper-genius that could calculate every possible outcome in any given situation---that in itself would easily count as omnipotence.
And yes, I can hear you snoring.
Yes I have read the spoiler, and no I'm not snoring.
Since you did mentioned that God did know every possibility, how come he is so confindent that a specific possibility (that the Pharaoh will not let the Hewbrews go until the full extent of his glory is shown) will happen (he was confindent enough to tell Moses about it before any of it happened).
Well..if Pharaoh let Moses and the Hebrews go, then that would have been great! Problem solved.
Still, it's hard to not wonder why God would have been so confident. The truth is, it doesn't really take a lot of effort to read the head of someone who's been raised their whole life believing that they're literally the center of the universe. Seriously, a human could do that with relative ease. Now, imagine a divine being who has unprecedented mental calculation abilities. In that case, how hard would it be to predict the actions of a predictable character?
Keep in mind, there have been times where God's prediction were heeded, and those in question repented of their crimes and ceased their inappropriate behavior, such as in the case of Ninevah.
hey stop throwing us together with these monsters