You wake up in a dark alley, not knowing anything. What has happened anyway? You struggle after the truth and answers. Answers you want to know in the darkness and fear, which makes your heartbeat race like violent blows against your head. Where do "they" come from? What has happened? Are you just turning insane? The time is up; you can't stay there reading your smses forever. It's time to head out and find the answers. Cry of Fear is a singleplayer modification of Half-Life 1 which brings you the horror you've always been afraid of. It's a total conversion of Half-Life 1, which means it uses NO Half-Life 1 content or other peoples' files. It's all made exclusively by the developers. It also uses new gaming styles that you will rarely find in Half-Life mods, such as advanced cutscenes and other stuff that will be revealed at a later date.

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ADTeam™
ADTeam™

Is he cleaning his knife, or...? D:

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Jerkakame
Jerkakame

Sharpening it

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PytoX
PytoX

PRocessing :o

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stealthpredator
stealthpredator

I can't wait. Who is that screaming btw O_O?

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RRCM_Rico
RRCM_Rico

I don't want to know.

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Slambert-Anders
Slambert-Anders

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That's right, it's your mom!

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Keyalorian12385
Keyalorian12385

Yeah, because she saw your ugly *** face. :D

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gazornonplat
gazornonplat

This is one of the problems I've always kind of had with the thematics of Cry of Fear. Self harm is strongly correlated with many forms mental illness, so sure, it's related to the game, but unless it's actually written into the story purposefully, it just seems like a cheap way to shock people.

I mean half this trailer was just Simon cutting himself vigorously, that's uncouth at best, and at worst it's actually offensive.

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gazornonplat
gazornonplat

Offensive to people who self-harm I mean, you're just feeding off the stigma it already has.

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JohnYukon
JohnYukon

I completely agree, the use of self-harm as shock value doesn't really bode well in this circumstance.

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gazornonplat
gazornonplat

This comment really didn't deserve to get buried.

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Theevina
Theevina

Cry of Fear is one of the most misunderstood mods ever made. I'm not sure if you understand, but the developers and community are well acquainted with depression and anxiety, including its many symptoms such as self-harm. This was made as a horror mod, but it's a lot more than just a cheap way of scaring people, and it's not in any way designed to make fun of those with these problems. It's an insight into the life of those who actually DO experience this, and we should know.

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gazornonplat
gazornonplat

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No one who had ever had serious problems with depression or anxiety would ever use it in the way that this trailer does. I'm telling you that for an absolute fact. I have a friend who is CURRENTLY grappling with depression, self-harm, and schizophrenia, and she would be offended THE **** OUT by this trailer.

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fuyuki359
fuyuki359

I think you have a depression gazor....that depression is attention deficit. And I'm sure you're cutting yourself right now pleasuring by the fact that we giving you the attention by hates. Are you that lonely that hate has become a form of attention to you?

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gazornonplat
gazornonplat

Okay, so you officially don't understand a single term you just used.

Would someone care to explain to this guy what ADD, depression and self-harm are and how they actually work.

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Sgt_Miller
Sgt_Miller

I agree but I think they need to put a warning before watching the trailer
I know how your friend feel
I wish she would feel better and happy

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gazornonplat
gazornonplat

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It's not so much the mod itself, and it's not that I feel they are making fun of these topics, it's that they're just lazily feeding off the social stigma. Using shots of Simon vigorously self-harming for half the trailer is lazy, because it just plays on people's existing mentality of "Only the seriously mentally disturbed self-harm". You only have to look at the sheer number of "Haha emo" comments that the screenshot from this CS got on facebook to know what people's opinions are, and demonizing it in the way that this trailer does just encourages that.

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gazornonplat
gazornonplat

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So no, I don't think they're making fun of it, and perhaps the CS itself deals with the topic of self-harm tentatively rather than just for shock value, but this trailer itself is deeply offensive and pretty socially irresponsible.

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ruMpel Author
ruMpel

Okay, scrap every war game then, since it's offensive for people who's dying in wars. Scrap every game that is offensive in some way.

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gazornonplat
gazornonplat

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That's the "other **** exists" argument, and it isn't a usable argument. Other offensive things existing isn't a justification for your specific offensive thing.

Again, my problem is with this trailer specifically.

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gazornonplat
gazornonplat

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Also good job deleting someone else's valid point on the self-harm thematics and the community's response to them. You're simultaneously fighting for a right to say whatever you want through your work, and censoring people who have a strong problem with the things you want to say.

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Gameboy555
Gameboy555

hes got a point ever game has to get blamed to be offensive in some way, just because it aims towards killing one race it gets banned in that country ww2 games get banned in germany most of them

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gazornonplat
gazornonplat

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Yeah, we have this weird mentality right now that war games are somehow totally inoffensive despite being one of the most appalling genres out there.

And I'm not talking about ******* 9th Dynasty Samurai RTS games or whatever, I mean the ******** "semper fi" ones with needless amounts of throat stabbing, because apparently that's what gives the average gamer a boner these days.

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ruMpel Author
ruMpel

I deleted Hogsys comment, since he's always trying to be a ******, no matter what, hence why I haven't deleted yours, though I'm ******* tempted to.

So yeah, go bitch somewhere else then if you think this is offensive. Why not the CoD community? Tell them how much it's wrong with war.

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gazornonplat
gazornonplat

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His comment on this occassion was fine, there was nothing wrong with it other than it made you look bad.

I doubt anyone in the CoD community is in any way disposed to intelligent debate, I hopped on this because I (perhaps naively) have a higher opinion of the modding community.

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ruMpel Author
ruMpel

Okay, cool for letting us know what you think.

Now, please go away. You are drowning this page with ****.

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timmybus
timmybus

what are you mard-assing about? this is a horror game, crazy things happen, stop being such a baby and **** off moaning

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DrRhubarb
DrRhubarb

"I (perhaps naively) have a higher opinion of the modding community." www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRsPheErBj8

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gazornonplat
gazornonplat

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Amusing, I don't think anyone who actually spends any time on a modding site can use that quip without irony.

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robofork
robofork

Maybe you should go outside gazorn, and try to realise how much nobody else cares.

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sashusambar
sashusambar

OMG, this is so cool! Bring this game in store and take my money!

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Gameboy555
Gameboy555

oh ****.....this looks great.custom sounds and textures. people really need to make custom models it be great, to bad it takes time to do, but this is defintly worth the weight.

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Aresaka
Aresaka

It'd* too* definitely* wait*

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DemonAiri
DemonAiri

Grat now i can freak the f**k out all over :D

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DevinShadowV
DevinShadowV

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why do you put the dates backwards it needs to be 08/02/2012 not 02/08/2012

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MartinN7
MartinN7

In Europe the day comes first and considering how this is a mod that was made in an european country, it would make sense for it to be in that format.

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silverfang22
silverfang22

I'm on a team that has members from both Europe and America (among other places) we do year/month/day so nobody gets confused :D

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Lusicore
Lusicore

that sux, the normal is the complete opposite

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MARiN3
MARiN3

america is not all over the world ...

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anjinanhut
anjinanhut

It's really a shame to see so much talent and skill coming together for a mod, which looks like a great ride and then have the people who made the mod display themselves publicly as completely socially oblivious and ignorant. Presenting an offensive and inconsiderate trailer like this and then showing no understanding whatsoever about why the trailer is problematic, even reacting with aggression really drags the whole project down. Not cool at all.

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ruMpel Author
ruMpel

I do not care if people find it offensive. I really don't.

You see, I'm not making the game to lick your ***, I'm doing it because I want to share something unique, and not some **** you've already seen.

If you don't like it, leave then. Nobody asked you to like the trailer, or me.

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gazornonplat
gazornonplat

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You're still expected to show the same level of social responsibility as everyone else, you ***. You don't have a right to offend people.

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jo291
jo291

"You're still expected to show the same level of social responsibility as everyone else, you ***. You don't have a right to offend people."

Pahahahah yes he does!

Hey buddy try watching some stand up comedy from George Carlin i bet you will burst a blood vessel just watching it!

"other than of course to appease you flailing infants."

Your the only flailing infant in this place any truly mature adult would understand that in the grand scheme of things EVERYTHING is offensive and would move on.

You see today's society is so obsessed with being as politically correct as possible that it has bred a entire generation of children who believe that the world and other people have to mold to how they want it to be or else they will cry and cry and cry until the thing that they are ****** at is forced to become more politically correct.

ruMpel please don't listen to this guy every artist on the planet knows that political correctness is the death of creativity and freedom of speech for that matter if this guys comments indicate anything.

After all the video game medium even attempting to approach the topic of warfare or self harm in any way apparently makes this guys blood boil.

Here is some advice gazornonplat if you don't want to see any kind of media that approaches any risque topic or takes any risks then go back to playing Mario although scratch that because i have actually seen people who are offended at Mario because they think he is disrespectful towards Italians so how about you just re-frame from approaching any kind of fiction period because there is bound to be something "offensive" in it and we cant have that now can we?

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gazornonplat
gazornonplat

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Thank you for missing the point of every comment I posted.

There's a big difference between covering a risky topic in your media or art (which is totally fine) and doing it in poor taste (which is not). My objection is solely to this trailer, which is guilty of the latter, but I'm hoping the custom story itself will be more tactful.

My issue is not with the topics, it's the delivery. If the custom story itself has themes of self-harm intelligently and sincerely written into it, then great, but all this trailer does it use for shock value because of its existing social stigma.

Again, I am totally TOTALLY okay with the subject matter, I'd just like it to have been more tentatively or purposefully dealt with in this trailer.

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jo291
jo291

Dude its a trailer what do you want it to do?

The trailer was just meant to show a little bit of game play and freaky stuff in order to intrigue the player into wanting to play the mod.

Did you want the trailer to be like 30 minutes long so that it can talk about self harm?

Understand that a trailer can do very little without spoiling things for the player and to get offended for that reason is unbelievably stupid.

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gazornonplat
gazornonplat

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Here: http://ohnovideogames.com/self-harm-and-cry-of-fear

Someone else (who is evidently offended by this too) explains the problem with it far better than I have.

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jo291
jo291

I think ruMpel explained pretty well in that article that the self harm is more based on the character of Simon rather then the theme of self harm.

You see just because Simon harms himself does not actually mean that they are implying that all people that harm themselves are mentally insane. All they are saying is that SIMON and ONLY SIMON is insane and harms himself.

Nothing more nothing less.

And on that note you and the blog writer are reading in too this way to deeply and drawing conclusions that are not actually there by using wild mass guessing on what the mod creator intends with this trailer.

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gazornonplat
gazornonplat

It's not about his intentions, it's about what impressions the trailer gives on nothing but its face value. That's the point, I'm not reading into this or guessing at all, whereas you are, by assuming something about the creators intentions that you don't know at all.

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jo291
jo291

Erm i said in the last comment that i read the article and payed attention to what ruMple said on the matter I'm not assuming about the creators intentions i read the creators intentions on the actual article.

"It's not about his intentions, it's about what impressions the trailer gives on nothing but its face value."

So then its somehow ruMples fault that some people incorrectly took the trailer on face value?

Also i don't think anyone else here was taking that impression from the trailer except for you because again you came to this conclusion by reading too deeply into a one minute trailer and think its offensive to people who self harm.

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gazornonplat
gazornonplat

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And for the record, I think political correctness sucks too. I'm not offended by self-harm, my issue is that many people who self-harm WILL BE OFFENDED by this trailer.

Also warfare in games is fine, but Call of Duty is pretty ******* appalling, and sadly it represents the norm right now as far as that genre is concerned.

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gazornonplat
gazornonplat

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As for the free speech thing, yeah, that's totally fine, what's actually pretty ******* hypocritical is ruMpel deleting people's comments when they *rightfully* make him look bad by calling him out on a related instance. Free speech is a two way street.

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不幸だのBulletProof
不幸だのBulletProof

Your free speech is nothing but ********. Please go cry somewhere or kill yourself if you have nothing to do but spamming your saliva **** comments on Moddb.

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gazornonplat
gazornonplat

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And it isn't unique, it's contrived and predictable, that's what's offensive about it.

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Keyalorian12385
Keyalorian12385

Hey, Hey, guess what? No one cares..... Have you even played the mod? Well if you did you would know that Simon (the main character portrayed in the trailer), has pyschalogical problems and is in his own nightmarish world with all of the monsters trying to kill him, If i was in his shoes i would probably do the same thing because i would be scared shitless and im pretty sure he is doing it to take his mind of the monsters and everything tring to kill him so please drop the self-harm stuff and just enjoy the ******* mod. Please.

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anjinanhut
anjinanhut

Allright, imma step away then. Because people who only care about their creativity but not about their destructivity need to be as far away from people and things as possible. Cheers.

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timmybus
timmybus

god these people are massive retards, there is absolutely nothing offensive in this trailer (for a mentally stable person) and this genius who is creating really good horror mods is having his comments section spammed by some people who think they are offended

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gazornonplat
gazornonplat

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What the **** is "for a mentally stable person" meant to mean you flippant prick?

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timmybus
timmybus

If you asked the majority of the human race what they think of this trailer, most of them would just say it looks scary/weird/horror etc. only really sensitive people would see a problem with this trailer, when the problem is with the viewer

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gazornonplat
gazornonplat

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Pahah. Sorry I didn't realise the "majority of the human race" had elected you as their spokesperson.

If you genuinely think that you know absolutely nothing about depression, self-harm, how incredibly common they are, or the already appalling social stigma built up around them.

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timmybus
timmybus

Of course there's a social stigma on self harm, people shouldn't do it and people look down on people for doing it. Saying that this trailer is definitely not making any sort of statement about self harm, it is merely showing it, you don't know the back story for this and neither do I, so why are you saying its wrong?

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gazornonplat
gazornonplat

They shouldn't "look down" on people for doing it, that's EXACTLY my point.

I'm saying it's wrong because it's just feeding off that social stigma. The CS itself might be fine, but making more than half of your trailer footage of Simon self-harming is just demonizing it and alienating that group.

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ruMpel Author
ruMpel

A lot of people in our forums self-harm, and they love the trailer.

Nerd, you don't know what you're talking about.

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gazornonplat
gazornonplat

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Believe me, I do.

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MartinN7
MartinN7

don't you have better things to do with your life, other than whining like a bitch over a trailer.

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timmybus
timmybus

I don't even understand what he's trying to say

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Seaal
Seaal

Seriously. GET THE HECK OUT OF HERE. Rumpel already said if you don't like the trailer then be on your way. The comments are filled with both your arguements and they dont need to get any bigger.

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gazornonplat
gazornonplat

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Actually I could stay around here as long as I want; it's a public forum, so I'm under no obligation to leave, other than of course to appease you flailing infants.

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DDguy
DDguy

Okay, seriously, what do you want?

It's a trailer, that is meant to be scary, and show us the depression of Simon (I think, I mean if I remember right, it's stated that he did indeed cut himself.)

I myself see no problem with this trailer, it freaked me out, and i'm very excited to play it. I hope you understand, that this trailer is here to stay.

Also, I don't really see how this is "Offensive", actually..

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CommanderShepardsPoo
CommanderShepardsPoo

Look, if you don't like the trailer, leave. If you can't say anything nice, don't say it at all.

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DrRhubarb
DrRhubarb

Well of course you can stay here and bitch all day, but does it make you feel better? Do you feel a warm spot when you do so? Get some fun out of life, enjoy media and don't take **** so friggin' personal.
If you don't like it, good, but don't try to make a big fuss about it.

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This is a new campaign that is being made by Andreas Rönnberg (Team Psykskallar) and the Cry of Fear community. A total of 9 mappers have made this campaign, and it's basically the sequel to the community collab 1 campaign.

The campaign will be released together with patch 1.4, the 2nd of august.

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