Sample work from one of the best composers around. Thread

Hey guys!
I have been composing for six years in almost every style possible and i have gained some of the best equipment there is and reached some pretty amazing level of realistic orchestral production.
Here is a sample of my latest work.

Youtube.com

I have a lot more samples on my youtube channel and my soundcloud accounts which i will both link to below.

I'm looking for an interesting project to work on, if interested let me know.

Soundcloud.com
Youtube.com

one of the best composers around

What entitles you to say such a thing? Crowning yourself the best in public is bad way to get work.

I'm not even going to check your material.

shadowflar3 wrote:

one of the best composers around

What entitles you to say such a thing? Crowning yourself the best in public is bad way to get work.

I'm not even going to check your material.

I think we should worry about his skills and not what he calls him self. This is probably one of those most disrespectful comments I've read on here lately. If he calls himself the best and can somehow prove worth than it's more than enough entitlement to earn credit for.

@Fustrun, good luck to you and try not to let people sway your offerings, I defiantly see use for you in a lot of games and hopefully they are intelligent enough to ignore shadowflar3's comment.

Just voicing my opinion on what is good marketing and what isn't.

Anyone can say they are the best but in my experience the exceptionally talented musicians are humble. Why is that? I don't know. Maybe because the people who self promote and use superlatives about themselves also have the need to prove themselves through their art. And art is expression. If your point is "I am proving I'm the best" how insightful can your art be?

So when it comes to music, even if you think are good don't ever brag about it and someone might think you are humble and thus maybe even good

Art is also subjective and matter of opinion so there's no such thing as the best painter, the best composer, or the best dancer. By extension there are no "one of the best" either because you're still putting artistic opinions in absolute order of quality. There might be "most popular" or "most awarded". Some well-respected party could give you a title such as "the best newcomer of 2013" or similar that you might use for advertising with clear conscience if you refer to the party who said such thing.

But simply saying you're "one of the best" and linking your youtube? I hope nobody gets away with that without a lesson.

EDIT:

I defiantly see use for you in a lot of games and hopefully they are intelligent enough to ignore shadowflar3's comment.

Ignoring is very seldom intelligent because of the definition of intelligent. Intelligence is to process and handle content in an appropriate way, not ignore something because somebody "hopes" that.

And did you note that I didn't even assess the quality of his work or if he has a place in game design, just his marketing approach and attitude?

Edited by: shadowflar3

I don't think it was disrespectful. When you claim yourself as one of the best around, you open yourself up to a lot of critisicm. shadowflar3's comment could have been a lot worse, and he did provide some sort of positive reinforcement.

If you can't handle cristisicm, don't put your stuff out there for the world. At least don't boast about being one of the best around.

With that said, it's not bad, but def. not some of the best composing I've heard. The guitar heavy stuff is a little bit on the chessier side of things, kind of like it should be on the sound track to Top Gun. The orchestral stuff sounds pretty cool though....

I know shadowflar3's first comment wasn't disrespectful, some even say it was critically positive, sure, but his second saying that he will not watch because of Fustrun's "cockiness" seems rude in it self. Sure lets go with that no company likes cockiness, even if you're the best (subjective, I know as much about art as the next guy) or most renown in the world it wouldn't matter, no one will hire you. Doesn't that seem a bit off to you? Now back to the way you described everything, if I were to turn this into a psychological debate I can easily say you are uneasy, self-conscious, envious, attentive, doubtful, and anxious, but that's not the point in all of this is it? The point is if he is skillful enough to get hired, and yes I understand that being too cocky can be hurt him in some cases but not all. Anyways I think we've all reached an understanding, simply put, being cocky can hurt you, how? People like Shadow dislike it, and if someone like him is in the hot seat you wont be getting hired anytime soon, no matter how good you are. Though as long as being cocky doesn't effect you or your work area then so be it.

I dont know what to say....

Icedecknight wrote: I know shadowflar3's first comment wasn't disrespectful, some even say it was critically positive, sure, but his second saying that he will not watch because of Fustrun's "cockiness" seems rude in it self. Sure lets go with that no company likes cockiness, even if you're the best (subjective, I know as much about art as the next guy) or most renown in the world it wouldn't matter, no one will hire you. Doesn't that seem a bit off to you?

Did I say nobody would hire him? No. IndieDB is full of people who are bound to be blown away by whatever someone else does because there are people of varying skill levels here. Even some people who understand nothing about game development, programming, graphic design, music are here and some of them even to recruit.

And when you don't pay the other guy it doesn't matter what kind of ego he has or even if he is an effective worker. Everything goes as long as it's free. But when you are paying someone it suddenly starts to matter. You will want to like the guy you give your money to regardless on what you get in return.

Now back to the way you described everything, if I were to turn this into a psychological debate I can easily say you are uneasy, self-conscious, envious, attentive, doubtful, and anxious, but that's not the point in all of this is it?

If you want to go ad hominem on me do so in PM but that list of insults you composed has no basis in what I have written. This topic is about OP and his work.

The point is if he is skillful enough to get hired, and yes I understand that being too cocky can be hurt him in some cases but not all. Anyways I think we've all reached an understanding, simply put, being cocky can hurt you, how? People like Shadow dislike it, and if someone like him is in the hot seat you wont be getting hired anytime soon, no matter how good you are. Though as long as being cocky doesn't effect you or your work area then so be it.

"People like Shadow" what does that mean? I hope people who think music is not a competition are not a minority. If you don't see how calling yourself "the best" in music is wrong I'm not sure you have a place in this discussion.

As if that wasn't inconvenient enough I'd have to explain how being cocky is bad for you? I don't actually know how to prove such a thing in text. Being cocky is just considered a bad quality in a person and makes your interaction with other people less pleasant.

If you really are of two minds about it and even if you have no trial-and-error experience on the job interviews or other form of human interaction, if you watch something like American Idol you can see how people that glorify themselves before the professional judges do. Not all of them are much worse than they claimed but buffing yourself with words over-the-top still always gives a negative impression if not an atmosphere of ridicule.

When you go to a job interview you may not have a good idea about how good the interviewer is himself. It is wise to stay humble. And especially when you post stuff on the internet you are sooner or later bound to run into someone who is even better than you and will be able to ridicule your claims if he so chooses.

Edited by: shadowflar3

The "best" is always subjective when it comes to art. It's like saying "The bible is the best book" - some will agree, others will just shake their head at the narrow view of the world. I guess this choice of words got him some attention.

What I often find amazing about these threads is that we have an argument about wording over three pages, while the original poster never choses to return.

Ok the OP just was on a trip but he's here.
Now first of all . . Wow . . .
Now second of all . .

When i said "Best" i meant that i have great abilities in Realistic Orchestration, Expressive Dynamic Instruments, ability to record live instruments and have some of the best software for creating music that money can buy . . now i never meant being the "best" composer . . i said "One of the best", and obviously everyone know that musical taste is subjective so it's impossible to say i have the best "music".

Now about the "Cockiness" i am not a cocky person, and i have to be realistic, some people around here call theme selves "composers" and all they can do is put a few synths together, and we have tons and tons of composer topics on this forum . . so all i wanted is a catchy forum topic name . . now i never meant to offend anyone but look and behold how many views and replies it got . . just saying . .

Now back to the "Cockiness", you couldn't be more wrong . . let's face it, the world is not fair . . the people who are always polite and modest will be left behind (mostly) . . if you want to get somewhere in life you need to be determined and tough and self confident and you'd be surprised how much "Cockiness" as you put it (since i don't think it is, it might be boasting but why not do it if your proud of what you created ?) shows that you have self confidence, and people want confident people that can deliver what they asked for on time.
Now it does not mean one needs to act like an asshole . . just confident, now i never meant to insult anyone and if anyone has been offended i'm sorry, that was not my intention.

Now we can argue all day long but every person has his outlooks on life and a way of living it, i really don't know why you care so much but that's your call . .

- Nir

Then you should look around at the best game devs.