Bannage of |_}U-(M)-G{_|{-$-} Thread

I'm pretty sure most of you caught the thread he made where he was shortly thereafter banned.
I really don't think that descision was justified, I mean, sure, he could be somewhat annoying at times, but it doesn't seem right to ban him. After all, he only posted his thoughts and ideas -which were often misguided- but at one point he even tried to make something of himself by attempting to model and half of you struck him down with a vengeance.

Jambozal wrote: There was never an official reason, which annoys me. And it makes the admin who banned without official reason look like a power mad idiot. No offence

Jambozal seems to be the only one that shares my opinion, somewhat. I understand that he didn't abide by the ModDB rule that time, but did his action really carry such magnitude that this was the only viable option? You could've let him slide. I dunno... It just bugs me, does anyone else feel this way?

Edited by: Kiith-Somtaaw

I sort of agree with you. I'd like an official reason, such as the rules he broke. I found that the entire community seemed to be against him even if he not doing anything particularly bad. Then, at the same time there were quite a few reasons for his ban, including way to many threads.

Edited by: Sallycin

First off, that's not the first time Jambozal has argued with staff decisions. I already explained this in the Moddb Bar right after it happened, and also left a comment in his last thread telling anyone they could PM me if they have questions.

After helping him out multiple times through PM's and receiving a warning, he continued to break the rules. I'm not going to explain that part all over again; you can look at his posting history instead. That last thread he posted was the final straw. He had already been told to stop posting after his third or fourth thread that day (maybe more, i can't remember). He had also been told a few times before to not ask for an entire team without any information.

You act like I just heard everyone complaining and decided to ban him. Rules are rules, and I had spent plenty of time already trying to help him out personally. He had already been warned before I gave him his second warning. The third warning resulted in his ban.

I'll be back in 5 hours.

1) You're over 2 weeks late.
2) I'll tell you exactly what I told meth...

Reasons to ban...

• Moddb.com
• Moddb.com
• Moddb.com

^^ Asking for entire teams, and posting two new threads on the same topic when the first were locked (and told the reason why on at least two occassions each)...

• His continued ignorance of every message and warning Chunky and I have sent him.

He's done a lot worse than Darkcyde did when he complained about the games, and Darkcyde got forum banned for it. That isn't to say people can't have opinions about it, but when you've made several threads bashing games and the developers behind it, that's a little too much to fathom.

He's also caused a lot of controversy with his words and actions that's caused plenty of unneeded unrest among the forum-ites. Sure, a lot of them have been acting like jerks, but it doesn't help matters any when you have such a troublesome person around.

I wasn't responsible for his bannage, but if you have a disruptive member who ignores everything that the staff tells him to do with a total disregard to the rules, that's what happens. It wasn't just because of his last thread, but a culmination of everything up to that point.

Hope that clears some of the smoke.

EDIT: I see Chunky posted as well. Oh well -- I guess this just backs him up, I suppose.

Edited by (in order): Karuto, Karuto

Sounds alright to me. I was just interested to here an official explanation from the staff.

I was wondering where that guy went...

It has been discussed a bit within the staff circle, and I can assure you, if Chunky was really a power mad idiot, I'd have him here right now in a dominatrix session. But I don't now, do I?

Yeah, I gotta agree with chunky's decision to ban that guy. Thanks for the links too.

At first I thought it was a little harsh, but after going through the stuff karuto posted I now know why he deserved to get banned.

There was no "official reason" because there never is. Take a look at some other banned members and you'll see that it's either not explained or there's someone leaving a comment to contact them if they have questions. I had already done that in his last thread and in the Moddb Bar. Don't call me a "power mad idiot" if you have no idea what's going on.

He wouldn't have even been banned if he didn't already have a first warning from someone else. I'll admit I get really pissed at some members sometimes (like right now), but I try my best to move on and ignore. I don't just ban whoever someone tells me to or warn them for no reason. You wouldn't know that though, because you can't see the warnings or PM's I had sent him prior to his ban.

We appreciate that sometimes the admin processes, expecially deleting posts and banning people, may seem a bit closed. This isn't because we don't want you to see - if you ask (like in this thread) we're more than willing to explain all our reasoning. It's simply because there is so much goes into it, especially where the member has done things over time. We usually combine PMs asking the person to stop breaking rules, warnings, and discussion on the staff forums before banning somebody.

You should all be aware of the three-strikes system. Any forum moderator is able to hand out warnings when people break the rules. If it's only a first time in the wrong, we'll just gently nudge them back in the right direction without a warning, since we're all fairly easy-going on staff. If you persist in breaking rules, you get warnings. Three warnings = banned. There are plenty of opportunities to redeem yourself, and if senior staff think you have actually repented then we'll remove the warnings.

And finally, if Chunky actually was power-mad he'd have his forum permissions stripped pretty sharpish. The senior staff don't just sit back and watch the world go by

the decision was right! Sometimes the threads would be interesting after all, but the whole doings were very annoying. The multiple threads were getting in the way of more intersting topics. It was only out of selfishness I guess that he continously posted new threads. Thats more power madness and scheminging for control than Chunky can ever do. Well, proba bly he could do even more, but his intellect holds him back.
All power to Moddb!

SinKing

Looks fair to me to be honest.

Aye, I read through the posts as well, it seems like a reasonable descision in my opinion now as he was blatantly ignoring the rules.
Although does anyone think it seems like he was doing it on purpose?

Spartan-048 wrote:
Aye, I read through the posts as well, it seems like a reasonable descision in my opinion now as he was blatantly ignoring the rules.
Although does anyone think it seems like he was doing it on purpose?

Even if he wasn't the fact that he ignored the mod's frequent warning about playing it safe and not making more threads was reason enough IMO.