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THEAQIB
THEAQIB The Dune Gamer
Mar 10 2013, 11:07am Anchor

I've been going about few engines for a dune first person stratergy game but i'm stuck cause all look good to make the game....
I'm looking for a engine to fit fps and some stratergy stuff and also some good visuals....
Help is needed...

Niteshade
Niteshade 3D Artist and aspiring Technical Artist
Mar 15 2013, 2:58pm Anchor

Unreal?

Mar 15 2013, 3:03pm Anchor

cryengine 3?

SinKing
SinKing bumps me thread
Mar 15 2013, 7:33pm Anchor
THEAQIB wrote:I've been going about few engines for a dune first person stratergy game but i'm stuck cause all look good to make the game....

I wouldn't say that is a problem. At least you have the luxury of choice. 
Generally:

wide open areas, few buildings, realistic day/nightcycle = cryengine
FPS, city maps, indoor areas, vehicular combat = UDK
custom made everything, more work,  but also greater gain = Unity

Unity Pro may cost you some money, but you get full access to the engine, whereas in Cryengine and UDK you need to do things through scripting (which also requires someone experienced). I'd say, if you are looking for a commercial release go with Unity. You can tailor the engine to your needs. It has some pretty retarded and old shaders, but a lot of other stuff looks great and it uses the Beast Render Engine (same as Unreal Engine uses). You can also buy components you might need for your game (certain materials/shaders, etc.). If you have a little money that will be a great help.

The other two engines feel foul to me. I worked on a project which had to buy a full license for Unreal Engine, because things simply couldn't be done with UDK the way they wanted. Or look at Hawken - it started out on UDK, but eventually they had to get a license to make everything work. And CrySDK is a joke. You can basically learn to use Cryengine and work as a mapper for Crytek. You may not use any assets provided with CrySDK in your game and you cannot make any game with superpowers resembling the Crysis suit; I'm not making this up, they actually have these conditions. Which makes me question why they release their SDK in the first place.

So, my rating for professional game development:
1st place
Unity Pro

2nd place
UDK

3rd place
CrySDK 

Props to the Unity guys! Two years ago I would have never voted them into my top list of engines. However, they did so much since then and continue to amaze me with great tools and affordable pricing. So they deserve it! I only wish they would bundle their mobile engine, so you don't have to buy different packages for different mobile devices.

Edited by: SinKing

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Mar 15 2013, 11:23pm Anchor
SinKing wrote:
 And CrySDK is a joke. You can basically learn to use Cryengine and work as a mapper for Crytek. You may not use any assets provided with CrySDK in your game and you cannot make any game with superpowers resembling the Crysis suit; I'm not making this up, they actually have these conditions. Which makes me question why they release their SDK in the first place.


You can't use assets in a commercial game is all, which the only uncertainty is with the particles and various scripts. People should be developing their own assets anyway, after all many teams may start with nothing at all with their own or other engines. If anyone is seriously going commercial there should be plenty of time replace sample assets before release.
And the suit powers, there is no strict rule against that, I've never seen it mentioned anywhere officially. They would not want outright copying of the nanosuit in appearence, but nothing against having super speed, or strength etc.

THEAQIB
THEAQIB The Dune Gamer
Mar 16 2013, 12:05am Anchor
SinKing wrote:

I wouldn't say that is a problem. At least you have the luxury of choice.
Generally:

wide open areas, few buildings, realistic day/nightcycle = cryengine
FPS, city maps, indoor areas, vehicular combat = UDK
custom made everything, more work, but also greater gain = Unity

Unity Pro may cost you some money, but you get full access to the engine, whereas in Cryengine and UDK you need to do things through scripting (which also requires someone experienced). I'd say, if you are looking for a commercial release go with Unity. You can tailor the engine to your needs. It has some pretty retarded and old shaders, but a lot of other stuff looks great and it uses the Beast Render Engine (same as Unreal Engine uses). You can also buy components you might need for your game (certain materials/shaders, etc.). If you have a little money that will be a great help.

The other two engines feel foul to me. I worked on a project which had to buy a full license for Unreal Engine, because things simply couldn't be done with UDK the way they wanted. Or look at Hawken - it started out on UDK, but eventually they had to get a license to make everything work. And CrySDK is a joke. You can basically learn to use Cryengine and work as a mapper for Crytek. You may not use any assets provided with CrySDK in your game and you cannot make any game with superpowers resembling the Crysis suit; I'm not making this up, they actually have these conditions. Which makes me question why they release their SDK in the first place.

So, my rating for professional game development:
1st place
Unity Pro

2nd place
UDK

3rd place
CrySDK

Props to the Unity guys! Two years ago I would have never voted them into my top list of engines. However, they did so much since then and continue to amaze me with great tools and affordable pricing. So they deserve it! I only wish they would bundle their mobile engine, so you don't have to buy different packages for different mobile devices.


Well i was thinking about cryengine but unity seemed good...
Well i need to be able to have flexible ai and mid battle unit switching thing for the stratergy phase ...
And good ai and nice hand to hand combat feeling of the present first person shooter phase...
Also Vehicular combat also good...
Best example of warfare i mean is it be like call of duty modern warfare styled....
Unity free i downloaded to try but still didnt...
Cryengine caught my eye due to its success behind the original crysis.....

SinKing
SinKing bumps me thread
Mar 16 2013, 4:25am Anchor

I just remembered another fun fact about Cryengine. It has the most complicated animation editor I've ever seen. This results in extremely realistic looking blended animations and a very nice product, but it is a ton of work to do. You might think: hah - but I can use motion capture! The high tech Cryengine allows for motion capture data only to be used in Cutscenes. So it's pretty useless for development.

I really liked Crytek and was hoping they put out a decent challenger to UDK with CrySDK. They didn't. They put out a tool to learn Cryengine that's all. I know that you have to make most of your assets yourself, but c'mon crytek. Let me use this gras texture, yeah? No! If they decide to put in a million of great assets and then you cannot use even the tiniest of them in your commercial title, they might as well put in no assets at all. Otherwise it's just a mission editor, not an SDK. 

Crytek made every mistake imaginable since the release of  CrySDK. They proved to me they have no interest at all in getting their engine to indie developers. Maybe CrySDK is appealing to big companies, but if you are indie go with UDK or even better, buy Unity!

Edited by: SinKing

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THEAQIB
THEAQIB The Dune Gamer
Mar 16 2013, 6:48am Anchor

hm... that I didn't know.....
thanks's for the info.....

Mar 16 2013, 12:44pm Anchor

UDK already has what you want in form of ut3 content included with it, you would just need to modify it and add to it. It's also easy to use and there's tons of tutorials for it.

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