Post news Report RSS The Road to Edain 4.4 - The ring mechanic

For a fairly long time there were problems with the ring mechanic. Sometimes units were stuck whil e transferring the Ring, many units weren‘t allowed to pick up the Ring because of that and of course the AI wasn‘t able to use our system. So we sat down together and developed a new system that solves all mentioned problems, thus enabling the AI to use the Ring for the first time in the upcoming patch 4.4!

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The Road to Edain 4.4: The ring mechanic



Greetings, Companions of Edain!


In our last update we unveiled our work on the new faction Imladris!
Today we want to seize the opportunity to introduce to you a fundamental change of the Patch 4.4.

For a fairly long time there were problems with the ring mechanic. Sometimes units were stuck whil e transferring the Ring, many units weren‘t allowed to pick up the Ring because of that and of course the AI wasn‘t able to use our system.
So we sat down together and developed a new system that solves all mentioned problems, thus enabling the AI to use the Ring for the first time in the upcoming patch 4.4!
The One Ring will still be dropped by Gollum, when he‘s been found and defeated but ordinary units will no longer be able to interact with it. Exactly like predefined by the historical context, only the Ring hero or the Ring heroes of a faction will be able to pick up and use the Ring.

The following video illustrates this by the means of a test map. It also demonstrates how flawlessly the AI handles the Ring mechanic:



With this change the player is now urged to recruit a ring hero as early as possible so that the One Ring may really be used. This might create a situation during a game where Gollum is found and defeated but the Ring can‘t be used yet, because the corresponding Ring hero hasn‘t set foot on the battlefield.
To prevent the Ring from just lying arround uselessly for some time we though of another function:
Gollum, the Ring thief. The function is shown in the last part of the video. The Ring may be clicked and has a time line. Once it‘s been depleted without a Ring hero using the One Ring, Gollum appears, steals the Ring and wanders cloaked upon the map again.

We think this change is reallly innovative but it especially fixes many present problems and enables the AI to use the Ring.

Additonally we want to show you the Ring mechanic of Imladris, which is quite unique among the factions. Here we were pretty creative with our concepts and thought of a system that, based on the knowledge at hand, seemed very fitting. Elrond still will be the ring hero but won‘t act as such, Instead Elrond summons the Fellowship of the Ring, to carry the burden of the One Ring:


The Fellowship consists of Frodo, Merry, Sam, Pippin, Gimli, Aragorn, Legolas, Boromir and Gandalf. They may level up and use skills regularly and drop the One Ring once every member of the Fellowship has died.


We hope you enjoyed today‘s update and look forward to your feedback!

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saruman_the_wise
saruman_the_wise - - 1,883 comments

You glorious bastards :D the new ring ring mechanic is well ******* GENUS ! AND ELROND SUMMONING THE FELLOWSHIP INSTEAD OF USING THE RING!! CAN YOU EVEN GET MORE LORE ACCURATE !!!

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srkisha
srkisha - - 110 comments

I cant deny how marvelous you are :) , only question is legolas shooting bow all the time or only when use abilities ?

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FG15
FG15 - - 3,559 comments

Only when the ability is used, anything else would cause problems.

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treefoz
treefoz - - 411 comments

So, what happens with the Dwarves? You previously have not been able to recruit Durin without the Ring, and that made some sense. Will he now be made recruitable without the Ring, or will another Dwarven hero become a Ring hero (which I think would make more sense myself)?

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kingsjewel
kingsjewel - - 712 comments

Also I think another Dwarven hero(es) would become Ringhero(es)
But it is complicated to do with Iron Hills and Erebor (Dáin Ironfoot is the leader of both factions)

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Tyzula
Tyzula - - 91 comments

That was my first question when I read the new mechanics.
Will Edain team not answer this???

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officialNecro
officialNecro - - 1,383 comments

The Edain Team is still developing a concept for the Dwarves, don't worry they will answer once they're sure of what they want to do with the Dwarves.

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Guest
Guest - - 689,785 comments

Great Job! May I ask how the Dwarven faction will actually interact with the One ring?

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officialNecro
officialNecro - - 1,383 comments

The Edain Team is developing a new concept for the Dwarves with proper heroes as their Ring Heroes.

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Kloefklaffer
Kloefklaffer - - 246 comments

I hope Gollum will be easier to find since the ring will dissapear after a while.

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NiiRubra
NiiRubra - - 471 comments

Well, once you have map control, stumbling upon him is likely, and for some factions such as Lothlorien, who have great detection with Rumil and Orophin, it is already very easy to casually find Gollum.

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Goncho
Goncho - - 32 comments

This is going to be ridiculously great.

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AnDyBranDy
AnDyBranDy - - 33 comments

but hard to find with ironhill without scouthero

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Ealendril Author
Ealendril - - 1,011 comments

The Iron Hills do have the possibility to recruit 3 scout units from the beginning: the single ram riders. ;o)

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NiiRubra
NiiRubra - - 471 comments

One cool thing that may happen with this new mechanic, is that sometimes a player will kill Gollum, but not have the ring hero ready, which may lead to a scenario where they must protect the area, while they save up resources to recruit their ring hero. Depending on how early the player finds the ring, going for ring hero may even be a bit of a gamble, since the ring may be stolen again before the ring hero gets to it, which would leave the player with a very expensive hero on the field and a bit of a crippled strategy.

I also like how dreadfully threatening Mordor could be with a dropped ring, even if the opposing player found it first, a Mordor player could scout the area with orcs and have the very cheap Sauron teleport DIRECTLY into it, with almost no risks (since you get Sauron back for free if he dies anyway). It is pretty appropriate, since the ring falling into Sauron's hands was the greatest danger, and it may give Mordor something to do in the late game, outside of competitive play.

Lots of interesting possibilities to consider with this one.

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Ealendril Author
Ealendril - - 1,011 comments

Exactly, you got the point.

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Ellendil
Ellendil - - 23 comments

Dwarves now have an easier way to get the ring now. (currently Iron hills and erebor ant fast enough to catch him without rams, Nori or Gimli with abilities!) Now I am curious how they will get it now.

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Ellendil
Ellendil - - 23 comments

Slightly off topic but I just noticed that Elrond has a horse. :)

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dan54
dan54 - - 12 comments

Haha nice edain team, I really like it when you go through the AI. The better it can play, the harder it is, the more I like it.

About the ring fonction of Imladris: 10/10, I wasn't expecting something like this. :)

One last thing: A little rebuff to mordor would be appreciated, I know I should leave the suggestions on the forums, but I don't know how. xD

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Drualden
Drualden - - 23 comments

Nice work guys, as always. However, I'm not being able to update after 4.4. Just get a message saying the servers are under heavy load. Should I just re-install?

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Ealendril Author
Ealendril - - 1,011 comments

4.4 isn't out yet.

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Magnifican
Magnifican - - 38 comments

Wow.. This is simply incredible. You guys never cease to amaze! Hope you will revisit War of the Ring mode soon and fix it up abit, maybe adding more regions etc. Cheers guys!

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ninofender
ninofender - - 42 comments

That is cool!

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zerglingno1427477633
zerglingno1427477633 - - 3 comments

check update everyday

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DavidPinto
DavidPinto - - 79 comments

And the ring hero system for dwarves? they don't have a hero to carry the ring.
In the last patch you had to deliver to the statue

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Carmondai
Carmondai - - 552 comments

Very cool I like the fellowship
Good work

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ConstantineNeo
ConstantineNeo - - 309 comments

wait this is an option right i can use the ring on elrond too ?

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Fredius
Fredius - - 611 comments

No, it won't be true to the lore if Elrond could use the ring, that's why the Fellowship summon is an alternative.

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mathiaskiwanuka
mathiaskiwanuka - - 4 comments

Nice!!! Was just asking about this a month or so ago :)

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Guest
Guest - - 689,785 comments

Bonjour petite question ou sont la factions gobelins les fantômes, smaug, et le balrog, et les mumakil, et la chambre d'ent gros manque ?

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officialNecro
officialNecro - - 1,383 comments

Le gobelins seront relâcher avec les montagnes brumeuse. Smaug et le Balrog aussi. Le mumakil peut être crée en utilisant le pouvoir "Reinforcements of Harad 7pp" de Mordor. La Chambre D'Ent est dans la faction de Lorien. Quand au fantômes ils sont avec Gondor, à moins que tu ne parle pas de ces fantômes

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DeadStatix
DeadStatix - - 3 comments

Are you bringing the Goblins with the update or is that for a later version?

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officialNecro
officialNecro - - 1,383 comments

This Goblins (Misty Mountains) are most likely for patch 4.5. Patch 4.4 (currently in development) is centered around Imladris.

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Sherv
Sherv - - 40 comments

Any news or updates ?

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sadamdam
sadamdam - - 3 comments

will it be released in this year?

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officialNecro
officialNecro - - 1,383 comments

Maybe, maybe not. The Edain Team never gives out release dates more than a couple weeks ahead.

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DeadStatix
DeadStatix - - 3 comments

Of course it will probably in a few weeks it will be released I would imagine. I really want to play as the Goblins would be interesting! :)

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Sherv
Sherv - - 40 comments

Will there be another factions after imladris and misty mountains ??

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Sherv
Sherv - - 40 comments

No answer ?? I heard rumors that there will be 2 more factions.is it true or not ?

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officialNecro
officialNecro - - 1,383 comments

It is true that there will be 2 more factions. They are mistery faction that will be revealed once all is done.

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MichiLord
MichiLord - - 40 comments

Hi there
I have this problem..
What should i do when my opponents aren't building structures, units, anything? It mostly happens when i play against elves. They just don't do anything. What is wrong?

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winblue
winblue - - 5 comments

What is the difficulty you are playing against ? I've played against Lorien many times and they do build structures and troops. I even think they somehow cheated because their building speed is unbelievable even faster than other AI factions. They can outnumber me despite the fact that they can only build troop from the citadel. On insane they will spam many things from pike, archer to mirkood and ent in 10-15 min.

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Sherv
Sherv - - 40 comments

Is everything ok ?? Im worried.no update for a month ?!!

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_Redkiller_
_Redkiller_ - - 87 comments

where can i download edain 4.0??

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_Redkiller_
_Redkiller_ - - 87 comments

where can i download Edain 4.0??

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tpalmer2
tpalmer2 - - 4 comments

PLEASE!

In the new update can you
1) Make the enemy build camps. they. simply. dont. they build outposts. not camps. games too easy on brutal when i make more money than they do.
2) Allow us to zoom OUT. some maps are way to close and its dizzying. Imagine if you can zoom OUT somewhat and get a good look at the battlefield all at once.


I love this game though. just these two things. Im sure others would agree with me.

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