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ModDB Staff has selected Eastern Front Developers as one of the best of 2010.

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Hello Eastern Front fans,

We would like to announce that our Team was selected on ModDB as one of the Best Developers of 2010!

It's was a long time ago since this project was started, comrades have joined and left(for one way or another), but they always will be remembered.

We don't think the founders of this mod had thought about this while creating Eastern Front. It probably surpassed their own expectations.

We would like to thank the players that download and play EF, the users who post suggestions to improve the game on the forum and the friends and modders as well who helped us and still do with their knowledge and experience.

Without you, this couldn't be possible.

In this very moment we are working, along with the Beta Testers to make the reward Brits balanced against the axis factions.

This is our first goal, to finish the patch 1.30 asap, besides to fix bugs that after the addition of the reward faction and the recrew bug may have risen. Then we'll focus on Ostheer.

We already have some surprises under the sleeve, but that's another story.

Thanks again and enjoy your visit to the Eastern Front!!

See the full list of The Best Developers of 2010.

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stukatankkiller
stukatankkiller

congratulations
i only wish blitzkrieg had the same advertisment as you guys
that would really make the diffrence

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P3ACE753
P3ACE753

Yeah in my opinion Blitzkrieg is way more polished (and historically accurate, like the damage system) than Eastern Front, Battle of the Bulge or Normandy '44.

I do have to admit that adding an entire faction to the game is a lot of work, but there are some bugs and balance issues that should have never passed the Alpha let alone Beta testing (I don't even know if they EF team does that).

And now all the fanboys will hate me and all, but until YOU haven't played Eastern Front, Blitzkrieg, Battle of the Bulge and Normandy '44 for ONE WEEK EACH,you can't say one of them is better than the others.

I did play each (for months actually) and I have to say that:
1) Blitzkrieg (it's just great in every aspect)
2) Battle of the Bulge (it's raw realism gets a bit frustrating at times)
3) Eastern Front (too many obvious bugs and balance issues)
4) Normandy '44 (they added a ton of skins, but gameplay wise is not revolutionary)

So I strongly suggest everyone to look past the flashy apearances of a game or mod and look for great gameplay and/or storyline. In those aspects Blitzkrieg Mod is the one for me.

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impgoon
impgoon

@P3ACE753

thats exactly the point well spoken mate!

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blackbishop
blackbishop

Perhaps you can enlight us in the forums about the "obvious bugs and balance issues". I hope you don't mean the "strawman"(recrew) bug or the "no initial unit for soviets". Perhaps can be fixed before the release of the next patch.

While I agree with "until you played them you can judge", your comment is biased towards Blitzkrieg, reading the reasons why you choose it is enough to imagine why you don't like EF.

Don't get me wrong, I think Blitzkrieg is a great mod, like Battle of the Bulge and Normandy 44.

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BurroDiablo
BurroDiablo

I have played all these mods too, they are all the similar kind of 'realism' mod, Eastern Front is not a realism mod because realism mods are subjective... Blitz, BotB and N44 mods are not exactly comparable to EF, what we have done is entirely different.
Nobody is denying EF has problems, but you're mentioning Alpha and Beta testing which were taking place over a year ago, under a different regime where we were literally FORCED to get the mod out even with the bugs and balance issues in tow (we KNOW that this wasn't a wise decision and will not do it again).

Let me ask... have you played the most recent patch?

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P3ACE753
P3ACE753

Yes I have played the latest patch of EF (and all the other mods).

Obvious balance issues? Where do I start. Tank battles are horribly balanced, like Panther, Tiger, King Tiger and Jagdtiger vs T-34 !!!!
OMG... Ok I understand that you dont want to make it really realistic where its one shot one kill, but when it takes 2-3-4 SHOOTS!!! to kill ONE T-34...no thx If those tanks can't effectivly kill a main stream tank then what is? How do you stop a spam?

As for bugs, there are those "big bugs" that are maybe intentional like no recrewing, huge squads but small pop cost, visual bugs on the T-34 and emplaceed arty, etc.

As I said before EASTERN FRONT IS NOT POLISHED ENOUGH!!! It is a great idea and the detication is there but its just not "there" yet, and you guys make it look and sound like the best thing under the sun. It just need a bit more patches before it could be "up to standard".

And if by adding the Soviets unbalanced the game this much I only hope that Oshteer will balance it out, 'caues if not...

(A small example of a big unbalance issue is when I lost to 1 NORMAL Soviet Computer Player :/ I have played +2000 games and I can easily take on a Expert Comp on any other mod but on EF the Russians are just OP. They are so many, so cheap and so though!)

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blackbishop
blackbishop

@P3ACE753
I stopped taking this seriously when you rant about no recrewing, how do you stop a T-34 spam? Are you serious? I would like to see one replay from one player spamming those :D. The visual bugs aren't terrible at all, i didn't notice that T-34s have them, although I have to see them yet :|.

The cap cost is fair imo. The damage from T-34 is ok but i think his armor type is the problem and will be fixed on 1.30.

I can defeat without problems Normal Soviet AI with both axis factions and I played less skirmishes than you(i have no need to cheat, btw). Do that make me a better player? I don't think so. Your story that supports your theory about soviets being OP is based only in the fact that you haven't played with them enough or at least you didn't know how to use them, let alone the fact that was an skirmish. Perhaps you are approaching from the wrong perspective to the soviets.

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BurroDiablo
BurroDiablo

1. If you haven't heard already, recrew bug has been fixed and will be in the next patch...
2. This is closer to vCoH balance and damage systems, it is NOT a historical accuracy mod... you seem to have acknowledged this, so why are you complaining that a Panther/Tiger/KT/Jagd takes 3-4 hits to destroy a T-34? It's just stupid. T-34 is highly inaccurate, a Panther can take one down in 3-4 hits while taking very little damage in turn.
3. You obviously don't know much about the mod if you're complaing about the Russians being OP because you were beat by a Normal CPU. The AI in EF has been PURPOSEFULLY made more DIFFICULT. The Soviets are a new faction, they needed CUSTOM AI. The AI turned out to be too good, so we also upgraded the other factions AI. A Normal CPU in EF is more like a Hard CPU in vCoH or other Mods.
4. We know EF isn't polished, but Visual bugs? Honestly, don't be so pedantic.

(Ninja'd by Bish :P )

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Dave27
Dave27

The only trouble with super AI is its a lot more differcult to win. As a casual player I enjoy building up my forces against the ai then push forward and wipe them out. But even "easy" enemies are hard, who taught you guys english if you don't now what easy means????? The only way I play Coh is without your mod and thats how it will stay until you learn the queens english.
I still love the models and I appreciate the hard work you people put in but whats the point if your target audience is the beardy "I have no life and spend all my time beating noobs online" group.

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blackbishop
blackbishop

@Dave27
Looks like someone lacks of common sense, "easy" is as the name says; if Normal would be easier than "Easy" your comment could apply, but you are comparing EF and CoH AI and that's another story, it's like if you compare Blitzkrieg AI with CoH AI.

I find weird that users can't win against AI on easy, while you are not alone the difficult won't be toned down, at least I haven't heard any word of it.

Whats the point of that? Imo PvP are funnier than skirmishes.

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Dave27
Dave27

The trouble with playing online is not everyone in the world has stable/fast enough connections to play or sometimes I don't want to be beaten over and over by people who know what their doing. I like to take my own time so I can enjoy a game sometimes. Also the ability to save the game then eat food, drink beer, have sex, sleep, go to work, continue with the rest of the battle.

Maybe if lots of other people have the same problem perhaps fixing it by adding a "very easy" option so people with lives can play to. Sitting there stating how fun PvP is on "your" mod is pointless, That Austrian bloke kept his daughter in a basement maybe he thought that was fun. Whats fun for one person doesn't make it fun for everyone else.

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mgs2
mgs2

different mods have different goals, they are all unique in a way

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mrskittles
mrskittles

and they keep their mod updated dont they?YES THEY DO.

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Munchie009
Munchie009

Great Job!

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GhOsT11
GhOsT11

good to know u are one of the best moders ur mod is awesome when i finish the work on my Win7 ill jump in and play again

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Darth_Lazarus
Darth_Lazarus

you don't deserve this ...

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Firesprayer
Firesprayer

=/ Great job explaining why.

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Darth_Lazarus
Darth_Lazarus

they got nealry a year to fix the bugs, the balance issus, soundproblems ... okay some bugs are fixed, but still there are balance problems. T34 has a russian sherman-voice (and other russian sounds from us-units), other crapy soundsfiles (t34 movingsounds is terrible). it takes months for only some new skins ...

okay, EF has nice ideas and its a solid mod, but not with the best developer team.
dont forget, that tehy are asking for moneyhelp ...

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BurroDiablo
BurroDiablo

This is some petty ****...
All donations go towards the upkeep of our Forum, that is all. If we could live off producing Eastern Front, we would, but we can't. This isn't our job, this is a hobby we do in our spare time.
As for sounds, our sound dev recently DIED from cancer, so forgive us if we'd rather focus on more important stuff than what the T-34 calls itself.
If you have a problem with balance, take it up on the forum, that's what it's there for.

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Darth_Lazarus
Darth_Lazarus

btw nice censorship .. if someone says bad things - he got trolled by your "fanboys". Sry to hear that on of your dev died. but is it to hard to find an other person for help ? ...

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BurroDiablo
BurroDiablo

How are you getting 'trolled'?
It is pretty difficult to find people with the skills to do the things we need done. The active Devs on the team would rather get on with balancing the game, making the Ostheer and helping the community than editing loads of sounds because a few people have their knickers in a twist over the T-34 saying 'Sherman' occasionally.

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blackbishop
blackbishop

No one said this mod is perfect. You should know what problems has a project of this nature, don't you Mr. Modder?

I think everything that was needed to say was already spoken. Sigh, Cope you were right after all.

Btw, you should drop that negative vibes, they aren't going to lead you anywhere.

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impgoon
impgoon

part one

at least at one point lazarus is right. it is almost impossible to say somthing other then easternfront rules. if you say something else or god forbid something bad you get downvoted by overpatriotic fanboys, trolled or your pn's get spammed with hatemail.

i myself post several bugpost in forum or here after first release i even offer sollutions and/or help but most of them get instantly erased from forum and i myself get trolled by fanboys and stuff how i dare to downgrade easternfront. have to say such is not constructive or polite its rude and censoreship.

and its a sad thing a big part of the easternfront community have a pretty closed mind in that point and acts very hostile on critics. even some devs do so. pherhaps it is wise to think about if such individuals or personal is a good advertisement or help for your mod. or at least try to call such to order more often by staffmembers.

cause such behavior neither helps any one or help improve easternfront itself. speaking of improvment in fact easternfront has still many balancing and tech issues that are not fixxed since first release. most that happens is adding more new stuff what is not really helpfull if the core is not running smoth.

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impgoon
impgoon

part two

most mod developers would tell you so. another thing that isnt helping is to post over convident advertisement that raise expectations to a level none can actually satisfy. easternfront is not a bad mod its a solid one but no übermod like some here would point it out.

Another point...ok it is bad when a friend and co dev dies but maybe you should think about to be more open to help offers or advise instead of remove them from forum or troll them away. and i remember that i am not the only one who gots outcasted in your forum back these days.

if you guys are affraid of critics or dont wanna hear others oppinions or help why you then go public at all? and to the overpatriotic fanboys out there try to be more realistic and polite you aint help easternfront in tearing down others oppinion.

but to finish this...i am thinking the biggest issue that easternfront has is neither technical or balance based its the attitude and social competence/behavior of some people who to easy forget that we all are humans and that we all breath the same air (J.F.Kenedy). this is only a computergame and not the center of the universe nor the base for some individuals to produce them self. if we all think about that maybe one day there will be a consence or a great approval and maybe the whole idea of modding will be remembered again.

regards

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BurroDiablo
BurroDiablo

I have no idea what you are talking about. First of all, the forums are fine and we have outcasted nobody. There are PLENTY of people on the forums that are critical of our work, we are constantly fixing bugs, we are doing our best with our small dev team to juggle modding, balancing, the community and real life. Somebody coming along and basically saying 'Your Dev team is ****, you take too long, the sounds are crappy' is not a helpful critique, so forgive us for not taking a polite approach to these kinds of comments.
If you have something to critique, by all means critique it. Just because we all don't agree doesn't mean we're a bunch of arrogant ***** who think nothing other than 'We know best'.
I may come off as rude, but really, we don't take time out of our lives simply to be bitched at.

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impgoon
impgoon

@BurroDiablo

quote: we don't take time out of our lives simply to be bitched at.
thats exactly the point i am talking about.

infact i got outcasted at your forum soon after first release.
i posted some inbalances i recon during play and i post them kindly and polite. the responses i got are something like this: this cannot be maybe you lack the skill to play right etc.
after i mention this is not polite nor helpful i got told that if i am not happy i am free to leave the forum and since i know nothing about making a mod i should do so qick.
after this i do revoke my forum account because of quote again: we don't take time out of our lives simply to be bitched at.

and now cause i mention it it is starting all over again? guys serious what is your problem? i try to be reasonable and i am tried to be polite so why you guys cant do so?
i myself never said you s... or something why should i? i dont even know you guys all! why you take everything personal and have to escalate it?

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blackbishop
blackbishop

@impgoon
That's a touching story... However you choose the easy way, you should keep posting.

Positive criticism is always welcomed, you can do so on the forums.

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impgoon
impgoon

@blackbishop

yeah revoke my forumaccout was the easy way out but why i should keep posting when such reply to my bugreports came from devstaff? if it were only some other a forum users who act so...sure why not keep posting, but it actually wasnt just forum users. so i ask myself why bother keep posting if they dont want you there, pack my gear and head off.

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BurroDiablo
BurroDiablo

Impgoon, you have 2 posts on our forum. You last visited there on Jan 22nd. None of you posts have rude replies, so again, I have no idea what you are talking about.
Can I ask... have you played the latest release of Eastern Front? Actually, wait until 1.3, since we fixed the recrew bug and are adding in some extra stuff :P
BTW, your forum account is still there. Nobody approved it for deletion.

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SaintDaveUK
SaintDaveUK

Is saying 'rumbled' inappropriate? ;D

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mrskittles
mrskittles

trust me,people here are like that,mean,rude,disrespectful,and on top of that some think its fun to do it.

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Sam1209
Sam1209

Write a critical Lens with that quote.

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Raider217
Raider217

@impgoon

I fail to see how you got "trolled" over posting bug reports of EF currently their actually asking for them or more specifically UCS and Icon errors which people including I have posted many such as ISU-152's missing icon etc. And you know what, POLITELY responding to this request and highlighing these problems was promptly thanked by Dragon.
-"Great start guys. I'll start crossing these off soon. Thanks again."

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Maxivz
Maxivz

Congrats guys! You really deserve it! ;)

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trooperdx3117
trooperdx3117

Well since there seems to be a lot of criticism here for some reason im just going to throw my hat in and say congratulations guys! I've thouroughly enjoyed the mod and I didn't expect it to be a realism mod or anything I just want it to be my beloved Company of heroes with a fun new faction added in so thank you

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