AI Shooting through brush Thread - S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Anomaly mod for S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Call of Pripyat

How can I tweak the AI so they don't have laser accuracy through 3 bushes, 2 trees 100 yards away? It's my biggest peeve about this amazing mod, hostile NPC's engaging with pinpoint accuracy even though I can't see where I was when I demo_record over to their PoV.

This issue isn't specific to this mod, I imagine. This used to happen a lot in the original versions of the STALKER trilogy.

Since bushes and shrubs aren't 'solid objects', they can see you through them. Their detection radius is kinda-sorta affected by bushes, but once they know you're there they'll zero in on you and completely ignore line of sight interruptions from foliage.

Could it be posssible to change the aiming for NPC's? i can't stand having enemies shoot my toenails off with a broken pistol from the other side of the hemisphere.

Judge.Mental wrote:

Could it be posssible to change the aiming for NPC's? i can't stand having enemies shoot my toenails off with a broken pistol from the other side of the hemisphere.

Beautifully put! +1

Download this and put it into your gamedata folder, this should solve your issue

Drive.google.com

TimMiner wrote:

Download this and put it into your gamedata folder, this should solve your issue

Drive.google.com

What exactly does it do?

Edited by: haasflaas

The worst place I found that enemies were able to pick me off through shrubs in in the northwest part of the great swamp.

Enemies seeing me through reeds and bushes while I couldn't see squat.

Download this and put it into your gamedata folder, this should solve your issue

haasflaas wrote:

TimMiner wrote:

Drive.google.com

What exactly does it do?

I don’t know exactly but it should solve the issue

Where's the legion of lemmings that are giving this mod 10/10 to defend how garbage the ai in this mod is? Has nobody had issues with npc's doing a 180* turn on you from 60 meters away and instantly unloading a full mag into you with pinpoint accuracy?

Exactly, never had such an issue.

Balgias wrote:

Where's the legion of lemmings that are giving this mod 10/10 to defend how garbage the ai in this mod is? Has nobody had issues with npc's doing a 180* turn on you from 60 meters away and instantly unloading a full mag into you with pinpoint accuracy?

This hasn't happened to me, at least not yet. I'm even being able to make them lose track of me at night, if I'm using NV and move out of their flashlights.

Balgias wrote:

Where's the legion of lemmings that are giving this mod 10/10 to defend how garbage the ai in this mod is? Has nobody had issues with npc's doing a 180* turn on you from 60 meters away and instantly unloading a full mag into you with pinpoint accuracy?

They're all sucking the devs cocks in the discord, but addressing your comment: I haven't played the mod in a few days because of it. Nothing pisses me off more than spending ~10 minutes planning, observing and sneaking up to some enemies just to have them all aggro and magdump with retarded accuracy as soon as the first pixel on the top of my characters head is over the hill BUT IT SHOULDN'T BE VISIBLE BECAUSE THERES GRASS AND LIKE 100 BUSHES/TREES/SHADOWS BREAKING THE LINE OF SIGHT PLUS MY SUIT IS GREEN AND EVERYTHING BEHIND AND INFRONT IS FUCKING GREEN AND I'M PRONE AND MOVING AS SLOWLY AS POSSIBLE. Fix your fucking shit retard devs.

haasflaas wrote:

Balgias wrote:

Where's the legion of lemmings that are giving this mod 10/10 to defend how garbage the ai in this mod is? Has nobody had issues with npc's doing a 180* turn on you from 60 meters away and instantly unloading a full mag into you with pinpoint accuracy?

They're all sucking the devs cocks in the discord, but addressing your comment: I haven't played the mod in a few days because of it. Nothing pisses me off more than spending ~10 minutes planning, observing and sneaking up to some enemies just to have them all aggro and magdump with retarded accuracy as soon as the first pixel on the top of my characters head is over the hill BUT IT SHOULDN'T BE VISIBLE BECAUSE THERES GRASS AND LIKE 100 BUSHES/TREES/SHADOWS BREAKING THE LINE OF SIGHT PLUS MY SUIT IS GREEN AND EVERYTHING BEHIND AND INFRONT IS FUCKING GREEN AND I'M PRONE AND MOVING AS SLOWLY AS POSSIBLE. Fix your fucking shit retard devs.

I offered you a fix, use it or suffer...

Also having enemies sneak up on you might just mean you have a bad sense of area awareness

Also, check if Hardcore AI aim is enabled. That must be why they're aimbotting the crap out of you.

TimMiner wrote:

haasflaas wrote:

Balgias wrote:

Where's the legion of lemmings that are giving this mod 10/10 to defend how garbage the ai in this mod is? Has nobody had issues with npc's doing a 180* turn on you from 60 meters away and instantly unloading a full mag into you with pinpoint accuracy?

They're all sucking the devs cocks in the discord, but addressing your comment: I haven't played the mod in a few days because of it. Nothing pisses me off more than spending ~10 minutes planning, observing and sneaking up to some enemies just to have them all aggro and magdump with retarded accuracy as soon as the first pixel on the top of my characters head is over the hill BUT IT SHOULDN'T BE VISIBLE BECAUSE THERES GRASS AND LIKE 100 BUSHES/TREES/SHADOWS BREAKING THE LINE OF SIGHT PLUS MY SUIT IS GREEN AND EVERYTHING BEHIND AND INFRONT IS FUCKING GREEN AND I'M PRONE AND MOVING AS SLOWLY AS POSSIBLE. Fix your fucking shit retard devs.

I offered you a fix, use it or suffer...

Also having enemies sneak up on you might just mean you have a bad sense of area awareness

Sorry buddy but I'm not installing a random file uploaded by a somebody who can't even tell me what exactly the file does, keep your russian malware out lol.

Also work on your reading comprehension, nowhere in that post do I complain about being snuck up on by enemies.

haasflaas wrote:

TimMiner wrote:

haasflaas wrote:

Balgias wrote:

Where's the legion of lemmings that are giving this mod 10/10 to defend how garbage the ai in this mod is? Has nobody had issues with npc's doing a 180* turn on you from 60 meters away and instantly unloading a full mag into you with pinpoint accuracy?

They're all sucking the devs cocks in the discord, but addressing your comment: I haven't played the mod in a few days because of it. Nothing pisses me off more than spending ~10 minutes planning, observing and sneaking up to some enemies just to have them all aggro and magdump with retarded accuracy as soon as the first pixel on the top of my characters head is over the hill BUT IT SHOULDN'T BE VISIBLE BECAUSE THERES GRASS AND LIKE 100 BUSHES/TREES/SHADOWS BREAKING THE LINE OF SIGHT PLUS MY SUIT IS GREEN AND EVERYTHING BEHIND AND INFRONT IS FUCKING GREEN AND I'M PRONE AND MOVING AS SLOWLY AS POSSIBLE. Fix your fucking shit retard devs.

I offered you a fix, use it or suffer...

Also having enemies sneak up on you might just mean you have a bad sense of area awareness

Sorry buddy but I'm not installing a random file uploaded by a somebody who can't even tell me what exactly the file does, keep your russian malware out lol.

Also work on your reading comprehension, nowhere in that post do I complain about being snuck up on by enemies.

You can download 2.4 and pick up the file from there too, I figured uploading it was easier but if you don't trust me download 2.4, unpack the database files and move gamemtl.xr into gamedata.

And sorry for some reason I have a hard time reading a lot of text at once along with being kinda angry with "They're all sucking the devs cocks in the discord"

Oh I just quoted that whole thing huh.

Edited by: TimMiner

TimMiner wrote:

And sorry for some reason I have a hard time reading a lot of text at once along with being kinda angry with "They're all sucking the devs cocks in the discord"

All good, thanks for being more clear with the files. Also don't be angry at the facts. Discord is a community for circlejerkers.

Any one tried the file offered by TimMiner?

I think that the AI shooting skills needs to be tweaked quite a bit by the modteam.

Even with the Hardcore aim turned off they can hit you with even a few pixels exposed behind cover. Distance does not seem to affect their aiming ability either

Also the bulletsponginess of the enemies, I shot a Bandit with a scoped SVT-40, I could see 3 hits to the chest with the good sniper ammo (Yellow striped box). He did not go down, or fall over wounded. He hit me 3 times with his AK74, and killed me...

Just a quick tip, calling the Devs retards, is not good conduct. My guess is that they work on this in their free time. Antagonizing them will not be increase their productivity. And it does not further your agenda in getting things fixed. Constructive criticism is the way to go

Edited by: 100radsbar

100radsbar wrote:

Any one tried the file offered by TimMiner?

I think that the AI shooting skills needs to be tweaked quite a bit by the modteam.

Even with the Hardcore aim turned off they can hit you with even a few pixels exposed behind cover. Distance does not seem to affect their aiming ability either

Also the bulletsponginess of the enemies, I shot a Bandit with a scoped SVT-40, I could see 3 hits to the chest with the good sniper ammo (Yellow striped box). He did not go down, or fall over wounded. He hit me 3 times with his AK74, and killed me...

Just a quick tip, calling the Devs retards, is not good conduct. My guess is that they work on this in their free time. Antagonizing them will not be increase their productivity. And it does not further your agenda in getting things fixed. Constructive criticism is the way to go

I find that upping the bullet power in the options menu helps,you might die even easier in the earlier game but so do enemies so it's a fair trade i think.

This issue isn't specific to this mod, I imagine. This used to happen a lot in the original versions of the STALKER trilogy.

Since bushes and shrubs aren't 'solid objects', they can see you through them. Their detection radius is kinda-sorta affected by bushes, but once they know you're there they'll zero in on you and completely ignore line of sight interruptions from foliage.

As someone who's played pretty much all of the content there is for stalker I can absolutely state with firm confidence this most definitely an issue with this mod and misery.

TimMiner wrote:

haasflaas wrote:

Balgias wrote:

Where's the legion of lemmings that are giving this mod 10/10 to defend how garbage the ai in this mod is? Has nobody had issues with npc's doing a 180* turn on you from 60 meters away and instantly unloading a full mag into you with pinpoint accuracy?

They're all sucking the devs cocks in the discord, but addressing your comment: I haven't played the mod in a few days because of it. Nothing pisses me off more than spending ~10 minutes planning, observing and sneaking up to some enemies just to have them all aggro and magdump with retarded accuracy as soon as the first pixel on the top of my characters head is over the hill BUT IT SHOULDN'T BE VISIBLE BECAUSE THERES GRASS AND LIKE 100 BUSHES/TREES/SHADOWS BREAKING THE LINE OF SIGHT PLUS MY SUIT IS GREEN AND EVERYTHING BEHIND AND INFRONT IS FUCKING GREEN AND I'M PRONE AND MOVING AS SLOWLY AS POSSIBLE. Fix your fucking shit retard devs.

I offered you a fix, use it or suffer...

Also having enemies sneak up on you might just mean you have a bad sense of area awareness

Incorrect, enemies sneaking up on us is an issue with the removal of the minimap and how many if not all movement sounds from enemies and beasts have been toned down to nothing or removed outright.

100radsbar wrote:

Just a quick tip, calling the Devs retards, is not good conduct. My guess is that they work on this in their free time. Antagonizing them will not be increase their productivity. And it does not further your agenda in getting things fixed. Constructive criticism is the way to go

Ok conduct cop, thanks for the citation.

I always wanted to have hardcore aim by Ai. But this is the main reason i don't. Right now i have enough trouble with the bushwack shootings.

I haven't tested the fix uploaded in this thread, but I can testify like others here, that the AI aim through bushes and trees has been an issue with STALKER from the very start. If the Anomaly can somehow add bushes and trees to the AI, that would be a huge benefit. This issue is also why Lost Alpha is a frustrating experience. Yes, the dense foliage looks amazing, but combined with STALKER's AI makes for a frustrating experience. I think Anomaly made a great comprimise here, with improved vegetation, but not too many trees and bushes.

Again, if Anomaly could update the AI somehow, that would be great - but it's probably difficult, since no other major mod has done this so far afaik.

Amoch wrote:

I haven't tested the fix uploaded in this thread, but I can testify like others here, that the AI aim through bushes and trees has been an issue with STALKER from the very start. If the Anomaly can somehow add bushes and trees to the AI, that would be a huge benefit. This issue is also why Lost Alpha is a frustrating experience. Yes, the dense foliage looks amazing, but combined with STALKER's AI makes for a frustrating experience. I think Anomaly made a great comprimise here, with improved vegetation, but not too many trees and bushes.

Again, if Anomaly could update the AI somehow, that would be great - but it's probably difficult, since no other major mod has done this so far afaik.

If you want to, you could unpack the base game .db files and replace m_stalker.ltx with the current one, the AI in anomaly's launch was really dumb lol

A little late to the party here but while the ai's x ray vision does suck, what's even worse is how I can barely land a headshot with a rifle and scope in perfect condition and using binoculars for ranging at 600m but they can 2 tap me from that range on full auto...