STCoP Weapon Pack Rebalanced 0.2 addon

I wonder, how's that even possible?
Because I only edited the files that were added by the STCoP weapon pack and only the damage and recoil values, no further edits.
I have "Dodge these Gnomus scopes" installed as well and don't have any issue with wrong sights ingame.
Do you really only have this problem when you install this mod or also when you install STCoP weapon pack only?

I installed this mod as last one after STCoP and Gnomus, if that helps you. Did you really made a proper install of the Gnomus patch for STCoP?
Because it should be absolutely impossible that this mod messes up your sights...

I remember that I also had an issue with Gnomus scopes for CoC once, but as far as I remember, it was because I didn't install it properly.

Fixed the wrong name of the folder directory.
Is your crash issue related to Gnomus scopes or something?
Because the base mod normally doesn't change scope graphics and I only edited the damage values of this mod, nothing else.
So the issue you named should also occur if you only install STCoP weapon pack without my tweak files. The issue is most likely somewhere else then.

It's an issue with Gnomus scopes as far as I can tell. If you install Gnomus scopes, the mod description says that you have to change then texture path of the G36 and L86 I think and if you don't have this mod, then it's apparently incompatible with the setting I made in the weapon .ltx files so they fit to the Gnomus mod.

With or without Gnomus scopes? This reminds me of something... I think in order for Gnomus scopes to work with it or use the right scopes style, people had to change the scope texture path in the weapon files of the L85 and G36. There was something, but I can barely remember...

I think we are close to the source of the problem then. I have Gnomus scopes and don't have the error you mentioned. I'll look into the Gnomus mod again, I'm pretty sure in this mod or the compatibility patch for Gnomus + STCoP weapon pack was something noted about manual edits of the L85/G36 scope texture directory.

Hello there. I haven't been active in Stalker mods since... a really long time but recently I felt like I ant to play CoC again. I'll dive into what you said about the 9x39 and 7.62x39 rifles.

Let me tell you one thing: As mentioned in the description before, the balance here doesn't try to make the guns balance out as they work in real life, it's more some arcade attempt at balancing them like in Battlefield games so that what weapon you want to play depends from what style you prefer, the weapon handling is also an important aspect here.

So, why is the 7.62x39 caliber more powerful than the 39x9 in my mod?

- The 9x39 rifles have a way lower recoil in comparison
--> Because of this, the precision of the weapon is also still quite decent
- The 9x39 rifles have a way higher fire rate in comparison

This concludes that the 9x39 are in these aspects simply better and their lower damage output is the trade back for it.

Only the NATO caliber weapon handling is mostly easier than the 9x39.

This is why even with my mod I still prefer the AS VAL over most other rifles, it allows you precise short bursts even on long range, just like in BF3.

For me it's still the better all around weapon than the AK-47 from my edit, the AK-47 requires more single shot than 2 or 3 round bursts and is more devastating in close quarters.
Well, the AS VAL still has a significantly higher fire rate then the AK-47, so...
Increasing the damage for 9x39 rifles furthermore would make them too convenient to my style, OP and boring to use again in my opinion.
Most NATO weapons have an even easier handling than the AS VAL, but still a less high fire rate.

Also I'm using the weapon pack redistribution mod, so both the 9x39 and 7.62 calibers appear comparably rare, most weapons are generic warsaw or NATO weapons.
The AK-47 is also listed to appear on rookie bandits for example, while none of the rookie bandits will carry auto-shotguns and 9x39 with themselves anymore.

The AK-47 is intended to be that one vintage beast like in Battlefield games, that's difficult to use but kicks damage out really hard if you master it.

What you mentioned about the pistols, I'll take a look at them again.
I admit my prime priority were the rifles all along.
I did make changes to the pistols, but it seem like I need to look out for this once more.
Especially what you mentioned about the Desert Eagle sounds highly off what I intended to do.

About the shotguns:
I've always felt like they're devastating, even the non-automatic ones. Maybe that's because I never use exoskeletons.
Do the NPCs in your game have a good aim?
Are they even close to you when firing the shotgun? Because they're really not clever in that matter and would fire a shotgun even from 150 m distance at you.

I'll look into it. Balancing this could be difficult though, as the value you edit has for some reaons an entirely different damage result for each caliber, even if you use exactly the same value!

This is also why it was so difficult to approach the pistol balancing, a "1.2" value for one caliber in the config files would in the game result in a higher damage level than if I type a "3.5" for a different caliber.
Sounds messed up, is messed up.

Last but not least, the AN-94.
The lovely AN-94 has even in Battlefield games always been a special weapon, yes.

Unfortunately, what you said about using full-auto for the AN-94 as 600 rpm at the same time as the special 2-round burst is exactly what I really had loved to do and is also exactly how it works in Battlefield 3, but it's not possible.

All weapons have one fixed fire rate value in their config files which is normally absolutely alright for this game, as every other single weapon doesn't work like the AN-94 so that's why there isn't any script that supports a true AN-94 style. Remember how the AN-94 in all STALKER game works just like a basic AK-74 with slightly improved accuracy stats.
This is what the devs should've made different in the first place.

With a 1800 rpm it's not an option either to allow the player to use full-auto for obvious reasons.
Not that this is even controllable, I tested it.
It sounds OP for close quarters, but with all recoil values it just works against you.

So I decided to balance this weapon like in BFBC2, it has only 2-round bursts, while it's low base recoil value and good precision allows you to hit your targets really well at far distance. Also, because of the high fire rate, it allows you to stack the burst intervals very closely to each other which results in a lot of damage before the enemy can even react sometimes.

It's a beast at long and mid range, so we could see it as another balance aspect that it's weak for CQ.
Not that 600 rpm in a video game is good anyways, you're better off with an SMG, shotgun or higher rpm assault rifle, even in Battlefield3.
In this game, it was always a special style to use the AN-94, having a strong revolver, auto-pistol sidearm or the shotgun grenade launcher attachment was what I used as helping gadgets when diving into CQC on conquest mode.

If I'd make it a 600 rpm weapon then it's just a reskinned AK-74 again, this way it's at least unique and you get highly rewarded if it's your style to play.

At least the AN-94 has gotten some love and attention here, in most weapon mod packs it's mostly ignored and treated as an AK-74 which might also be the reason why there was never a script invented for to include two different rpm per weapon.

If someone would be able to do this it'd be definitely awesome!
I guess I'll create a forum thread soon to ask our script-nuts whether and how it's possible to do this.

Don't you ever carry a shotgun or SMG with you and only sniper rifles alongside the assult rifle instead?

In summary:

- I will not change the 9x39 - 7.62x39 balancing.

- No changes for the AN-94 mechanics so far. I'll take a look at it to check if it might needs a slight buff for recoil, spread or whatever. Can't remember exactly anymore how the gun performs with my edit.

- I'll adress the balancing of the pistols and maybe shotguns.

Btw don't worry, you're not the only one who's spamming here ;)

Wait, are you just telling me that it was possible to reproduce the AN-94 real life mechanism all the time but never utilizied by anyone (as far as I know)? lmao
I mean not even in StCOP weapon pack was this obviously done before as the only one who has ever edited this so far is you.

Funny enough, it seems like "rpm_mode_2" only exists in the AN94 config file and is therefore unique and only available to this weapon.
So why did this never surface?

Maybe this comes down to the fact that most people would drop any AK-74 family weapon anyways as soon as they get a NATO or 9x39 weapon in their hands in the vanilla games and so this perhaps was never adressed by modders as well.

Whatever is the reason, I'm happy that this is possible though and will definitely be a change in the new version of my mod.

If there should ever be a H&K G11 included in a weapon pack, this line could be used to make it's 500 / 2000 rpm three round burst work like in real life as well!

About the condition drop of 39x9 weapons, I never lookeed upon that. Might be a StCoP thing as you mentioned.
I don't know exactly how this works at all, I guess the condition will decrease by a certain value per shot, therefore making high rpm weapons decrease faster if you use full-auto to empty your mag really often as you will fire more bullets and empty more mags in the same time than when you're using a 600 rpm weapon.
But like I said, I'd need to look at how this works in the first place, like if there's a maximum base condition for each weapon etc.

About the pistols, did you meant to say that those with a lower magazine capacity should have the higher damage?
It seems like you accidentally switched them here.

Alright, I'll take a look at this then.

I discovered what's the issue with the enormous degradation of 9x39 rifles.
They have a 10 times higher degradation per single shot as well as an almost 8 times higher degradation per shot in full auto-mode than most automatic rifles, both NATO and Warsaw version.

I guess that's because these degradation stats are aimed towards the VSS, only the Groza has comparable degradation like normal rifles.
Originally only the AS VAL was the third rifle which was supposed to be seen similar as the VSS Vintorez I guess.
Though only for the VSS this makes sense as this rifle is mostly fired single-shot only.

So the 9A-91, VSK 94, Vikhr and VAL all have the VSS degradation stats which is way too high for assault rifles/carbines of course.