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Gen_Rhys_Dallows Online
Gen_Rhys_Dallows Apr 26 2014, 1:32pm says:

Oh no, all my books and games have disappeared! Except no, they haven't, so who really cares? Kyle Katarn is no longer canon? All my Dark Forces/Jedi Knight games are still sitting right here, and I enjoy them just as much now as I did last week, and the 10+ years before that.

The entire EU was a convoluted mess anyway, because LucasFilm had no quality control and would let anything through without actually checking whether it made sense or not. There were about a dozen versions how how the rebels captured the death star plans, like 6 origin stories of the AT-AT, conflicting timelines all over the place, etc. Then TOR, The Clone Wars, and the upcoming Rebels came in and started piling even more junk onto the train wreck, aggressively ignoring/rewriting the EU, often at the demands of Lucas himself (Maul being alive, pacifist Mandalorians, Mortis, Moriband).

Purging it all was really the best thing that could have happened. Disney is fixing the mess that LucasFilm shouldn't have allowed to happen in the first place.

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NorthKoreanWehrmacht
NorthKoreanWehrmacht Apr 26 2014, 1:54pm replied:

Some die hard Star Wars fans are so nit picky about canon, that they act is it real history. To them, rewriting Star Wars is like rewriting to history to what didn't actually happened. They act like, a Star Wars story has to be historically accurate or, canonically accurate. To them rewriting what happened in Star Wars is like rewriting what happened in World War II.

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Gen_Rhys_Dallows Online
Gen_Rhys_Dallows Apr 26 2014, 2:04pm replied:

I get that, but when there's like 8 completely different versions of how the Normandy landings went, all of which are supposed to be equally 'historically accurate,' there's a problem. Even that tiered canon system they used made no sense because there were numerous conflicting elements within the tiers themselves. Attempts to spackle things together just made it more confusing. Trying to clear all that up book by book over an almost 40 year period would have been an absolute nightmare. Purging it was really the only thing that could have been done.

I don't blame Disney for a second (if they're even the ones behind this decision), for looking at this train wreck, tossing up their hands and going "No, we're not dealing with this ****."

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The_Darker_Side Creator
The_Darker_Side Apr 26 2014, 2:13pm replied:

The old canon tier system was effective until things started to fold on top of each other. Like one event would have 10-20 different layers on it. And for each layer a completely different way how the event was carried out. So LUCAFILM (not Disney. This is Kathleen Kennedy's decision, not Disney's.) is doing the right thing. They have a team of people who respect everything that is EU because they grew up with it. And through that team, they are going to make the Star Wars universe a whole. Because each thing in the old tier system was a different story. What they are doing now is trying to make everything one WHOLE story so it makes sense. No contradictions, no confusion. That is all they're doing. And as a die hard Star Wars fan, I do kind of feel sad about this. BUT I do not go ballistic over one change such as this. People, like Delta, take everything way too seriously because they think they own the story of Star Wars, while the truth is they don't! Everything we know is still there, it isn't gone! And as Rhys said, this is a mess that has been needed to be cleaned up for sometime now.

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Gen_Rhys_Dallows Online
Gen_Rhys_Dallows Apr 26 2014, 2:20pm replied:

The mental image of some sobbing kid looking at his shelf in despair waiting for all of his Star Wars action figures and books to evaporate into thin air is pretty hilarious, though.

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NorthKoreanWehrmacht
NorthKoreanWehrmacht Apr 26 2014, 2:00pm says:

People debate Star Wars almost as if it is a religion.

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Gen_Rhys_Dallows Online
Gen_Rhys_Dallows Apr 26 2014, 2:49pm replied:

Nothing to do with the topic, but as a side note:
'Jedi' is an accepted religion by the US Army

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Boda
Boda Apr 26 2014, 7:07pm replied:

Well, when you think about it, those two do have a lot in common:
- they're both imaginary stories about something that happened "a long time ago"
- both stories have the fight between good and evil
- both stories involve some mystic invisible force
- both stories have real affinity to wars and blood spilling...

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MagicalPaladin
MagicalPaladin Apr 26 2014, 2:05pm says:

Disney is just awesome, what i do care about canon ? I think that Clone Wars and others books can be seen as an "Expanded universe" more deeper than the canon. I don't know why star wars fans are so angry against Disney, didn't they watch Aladdin or others when they were kids ? Those are greats movies, better than Dreamworks and near the huge work of Ghibli movies. I just want to see the reaction of "hardcore" fans of Star Wars when Star Wars 7 will be released.

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The_Darker_Side Creator
The_Darker_Side Apr 26 2014, 2:06pm replied:

Exactly!

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fr0st47
fr0st47 Apr 26 2014, 2:13pm says:

****!

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Eugene.Gans478
Eugene.Gans478 Apr 26 2014, 2:42pm says:

disney are such monsters for controlling everything the way they want

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packy21
packy21 Apr 26 2014, 4:12pm says:

I enjoyed the clone wars. The action is awesome and entertaining. I'm not letting some people tell me to hate it because it isn't canon. So you go on and nag about your canon while i go watch the clone wars. I even enjoyed episode I as a kid until i red about all it's flaws and all it's jar jar. I new i liked it the least but it entertained me. There! I said it!

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NorthKoreanWehrmacht
NorthKoreanWehrmacht Apr 26 2014, 4:27pm buried:

(buried)

In my story, Jar Jar is a communist dictator. http://www.moddb.com/members/natocommander/images/gungan-flag#imagebox I was inspired to make that story from, so many people hating Jar Jar and Naboo being divided like Germany was during the cold war.

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packy21
packy21 Apr 26 2014, 4:44pm replied:

That really isn't my point.

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NorthKoreanWehrmacht
NorthKoreanWehrmacht Apr 26 2014, 6:49pm replied:

I know.

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Gen_Rhys_Dallows Online
Gen_Rhys_Dallows Apr 26 2014, 4:59pm replied:

I really don't get it. I dislike nearly everything about the prequels (TCW has its ups and downs), but all the things I DO enjoy haven't just disappeared. What should I, or anybody else really care that some business people say 'no this isn't real anymore'? (spoiler alert: none of it is real)

SW continuity was so broken that you pretty much had to pick and choose what you followed anyway.

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NorthKoreanWehrmacht
NorthKoreanWehrmacht Apr 26 2014, 4:42pm says:

I wish they would just make film adaptations of the Star Wars books and comics.

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Eugene.Gans478
Eugene.Gans478 Apr 26 2014, 5:53pm says:

that sounds like a good idea then we will overthrow disney and take their place and claim it to be ours so that way we can watch star wars the clone wars and play clone wars adventures meaning soe will have to listen to us
instead of disney we will be nice and we will not shut anything down in the name of and restore things back to the way it was

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Ozzy667 Creator
Ozzy667 Apr 26 2014, 6:52pm says:

Here is another article which more accurately lays out everything. Just found it today.
Technobuffalo.com

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Ozzy667 Creator
Ozzy667 Apr 26 2014, 7:42pm says:

Gen_Rhys_Dallows and Darker side have it write. The Expanded Universe was such a mess. So Many overlapping stories. What we have now is die hard EU fans and creators of past Star Wars games, books and comics all sitting in one room and deciding the whole timeline. They will be using their love for EU as inspiration but with the purpose of setting the timeline right. One clear non contradictory story. Some EU will make it in to the story in a different and maybe even similar manner as the old stories we love. Who wants to read the same story anyways. Basically all these authors were fans like us. They wrote stories that we all love and now we can all hope that the characters we love are accepted in by Lucas Film and we can all enjoy seeing new adventures featuring our favorite Characters. I mean look, The Clone Wars made Delta Squad, Assaj Ventress, Night Sisters, The Death watch, GunDarks, the Black Sun, Nal Hutta, Quilan Vos as a jedi and not a background character, Z-95 headhunters, Dathomir and cyborg leg Maul full George Lucas canon. So their are good things about Lucas Arts making the time line consistent

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Ozzy667 Creator
Ozzy667 Apr 26 2014, 7:53pm replied:

right* wrote that too fast

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Gen_Rhys_Dallows Online
Gen_Rhys_Dallows Apr 27 2014, 2:17pm replied:

I would not be surprised at all if many of the existing stories are brought back in anyways. There's really no reason to try and redo nearly 40 years of history when there's stuff that fit just fine when it's not jammed in with 20 other sources trying to tell the same story.

This just seems like them dumping out a dirty, overflowing, disorganized dresser so they can fill it back up in a way that makes more sense. Yeah, some things no longer fit, some are tattered and broken and need to be thrown out. I imagine a good chunk of what already works will be kept. Even if it gets put through the washing machine a couple times.

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Woozle
Woozle Apr 27 2014, 2:10pm says:

This is tantamount to disney saying "The holocaust never happened".

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Gen_Rhys_Dallows Online
Gen_Rhys_Dallows Apr 27 2014, 2:19pm replied:

If you're comparing the Star Wars EU to the holocaust... then yeah, I kind of agree. Both were unmitigated disasters caused by horrible people.

Except this 'holocaust' is something that can be fixed, which is what LucasFilm is FINALLY trying to do after letting garbage pile up for 30+ years.

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Meatbag619
Meatbag619 May 2 2014, 9:30pm says:

The only Star Wars stories I still want canon is everything that takes place before Return of the Jedi. It's not like they're going to interfere with the sequel trilogy or anything, so just leave them alone. While I did enjoy the other stories set after Episode 6, I rather have them try something new, cause if you think about it, there's just too much backstory to catch up on and there'd be no surprises since they'd have to keep everything in check. I think Disney's doing a good thing by starting the sequel trilogy by scratch but I'm still disappointed that stories like The Force Unleashed, KOTOR, and the Clone Wars micro series are no longer canon. Ah well, at least there's nothing to stop me from revisiting older stories.

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generalfacu
generalfacu May 11 2014, 11:13am says:

**** YOU DISNEY **** YOU!!

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Apohkalypz
Apohkalypz May 11 2014, 12:06pm says:

Everyone needs to stop crying for the love of God. You sound like 40 year old neck beard beta faggots.

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MrLulz
MrLulz Sep 3 2014, 7:34pm says:

This news made me feel terrible but the it was a mess. It's for the better IMO. Wait...This means...Grand Admiral Thrawn is now Non-Canon...OHMYGAWDMALYFEISRUINED!!!!!!!

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MrLulz
MrLulz Sep 24 2014, 10:00am replied:

It actually is a good thing because let's face it, The EU was a uncontrolled mess. What Lucasfilm is doing is good. If they like something from the EU, They'll put it in. Yes, this means Heir to the Empire will never be part of the movies but that shouldn't mean Episode IIV is ruined, Characters like Mara Jade, Grand Admiral Thrawn, That bothan guy, may return in something else.

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Disney has officially announced that the star wars expanded universe has been reset, effectively making everything that isn't Star Wars: The Clone Wars and Star Wars: Rebels non-canon

The Star Wars We grew up with is dead. I weep for the future of this franchise, the future of entertainment and the future of humanity as a whole

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